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[codecow]

I can't stand the monsters that make these evil violent video games!!!

 

[TwiztidElf]

Haven't the kids who knew Adam Lanza already come out and said that he like Mario and World of Warcraft? NOT violent FPS games?

 

[Ploid 3.0]

First year of banned games would be a scary time to see. Riots, and anger with no release. I remember one day someone pissed me off so bad, I ended up playing GTA VC to let off steam, by riding around a single block a lot of laps. Not a single pedestrian was killed. It was safer than driving angry irl.

 

[fallagin]

I can't stand the monsters that make these evil violent video games!!!

:O Suicide watch!!

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Part of the issue I have with "American" culture is the glorification of violence. Saying they merely want to STUDY effects of violence in video games(and I assume other media shortly) is a good thing, in my opinion. I have a huge issue with youth in broken households being raised on CoD, for instance, (I and many others played Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc in comparison, not playing violent realistic shooters, some online with hearing every possible curse word in existence from other aggressive gamers). Not everyone has the understanding of separation between fantasy and reality, as most of us here do.

Taking a closer look at violent media influence and the subsequent mental health effect is better than "ban all guns!". This is especially true as interactive media becomes more realistic.

Obviously they won't ban videogames as some have quickly suggested they would here. The most I could see are stricter rules regarding minors playing M-rated games, which I'd be A-OK with. I'm not sure what else they could do.

 

[The Kid]

I hate it when politicians callously throw aside Supreme Court rulings. No matter what this senator says, he can't do something in opposition to what SCOTUS said. If he does, then it is a quick trip to the court house with a copy of the holding.

 

[jcm]

I hate it when politicians callously throw aside Supreme Court rulings. No matter what this senator says, he can't do something in opposition to what SCOTUS said. If he does, then it is a quick trip to the court house with a copy of the holding.

When did the Supreme Court rule congress can't study the psychology effects of violent video games?

 

[Sojgat]

Thought this was a nice piece on the topic by Devin Faraci.

http://badassdigest.com/2012/12/19/wertham-redux-blaming-video-games-for-the-newtown-massacre/

 

[GillianSeed79]

When did the Supreme Court rule congress can't study the psychology effects of violent video games?

There is nothing wrong with a study. There have been plenty of studies. There have been plenty of court cases. I'm fine with us taking a step back and looking at the "culture of violence" in video games. I'd like to think that common sense would prevail. Commmon sense being shit like not buying your 10-year-old a copy of CoD or GTA for Christmas or not taking your kids to the next Hallowen/Friday the 13th/Nightmare on Elm Street movie.

What fucking bothers me is this shit:

Rockefeller said he will call on the FTC and FCC to expand their work on video game regulation. “The FTC has reviewed the effectiveness of the video game ratings system. The FCC has looked at the impact of violent programming on children. Changes in technology now allow kids to access violent content on-line with less parental involvement,” he said. “It is time for these two agencies to take a fresh look at these issues.”

The lawmaker also pointed out that responsibility rests with the entertainment industry. “Major corporations, including the video game industry, make billions on marketing and selling violent content to children. They have a responsibility to protect our children,” he said. “If they do not, you can count on the Congress to take a more aggressive role.”

It's the same stupid veiled threat that Congress will limit free speech, now decided by the Supreme Court, when they held hearings in the 1990s about video game violence and shit like Night Trap was brought up.

I'm an adult. I play lots of different games. I'm not particularly a fan of the "dude bro" shooter culture and all that. I don't want the government to say a particular brand of speech is banned because some stupid parent doesn't realize little Timmy shouldn't be playing Black Ops II. Do movies have to worry about showing violence because some 10-year-old might watch Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List? My mother loves to read. She loves crime novels. Are we going to have to regulate books now?

I realize games had to address this issue in the 1990s. Sega had a voluntary rating system at that time. The ESRB rating system has been applauded since then. I think it comes down to now that parents really need to step up. I think mental health is really the answer though. This guy was 20. He was an adult.

 

[Aaron]

Haven't the kids who knew Adam Lanza already come out and said that he like Mario and World of Warcraft? NOT violent FPS games?

Same for the Aurora shooter in Colorado. This is just a lame witch hunt blindly ignoring facts.

 

[Sanctuary]

Wow, South Korea is way up there, but I don't get it. Is that really how big the mmo industry is over there?

No, that's how big Star Craft is, and now Street Fighter 4 and Tekken whatever number it's up to. Star Craft was practically Korea's national sport for a while now. Even grandmothers were playing it.

 

[Cartman86]

Obama won't do shit. He hasn't for 4 years. The right and anyone in the pocket of the gun lobby will scapegoat video games and anything else than can get their hands on whether legit or not. Business as usual for people who put the right to carry a weapon that exists only to kill other human beings over the lives of their fellow citizens. Definition of fucking selfishness. Worst part is that its not some theoretical safer world without guns. Every country that has strict gun laws has fewer deaths. Video games has little to nothing to do with it.

 

[McLovin]

I'm so sick of people blaming video games for this stuff. Even if he was playing games, he was already sick in the head. He could have been inspired by a movie for all they know. People just don't wanna give up their assault rifles so they throw the blame at video games :/

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I was listening to Obama's speech earlier, and I recall he said something along the lines of "we need to study the culture that glorifies gun violence", and I immediately thought about our hobby

I think 200 years of glorifying guns, war, soldiers and hunting has more of an impact than 30 years of video games. about which 25%(if not less) of them are shooting (military) types

Anyone see this yet?

Fuck Lieberman and his "sources" where he gets these rumors from.

so glasd that ass is retiring.

Not talking about them makes it more difficult to be a "copy cat killer", how are people going to idolize and emulate something they know literally nothing about? Instead, like mentioned over and over again, we're spoon fed everything about them, painting them as vile demons and evil antagonists straight out of a story. And then people wonder why it happens over and over again.

killings don't happen because people want to copy it, killings happen because people want to kill.

Yep, there are already a report that the NRA is planning to bring up games and movies at their news conference on Friday. With that said, it's not just the right doing this. That California games law was headed up by a Democrat. And David Axelrod posted this on twitter

I hope Axelrod realizes that Call of Duty is about glorifying the military. is he ready to call soldiers murderers?

I don't think that games themselves are a cause, but let's not kid ourselves: the most popular videogame in the US is a first person shooter featuring realistic weapons, scenarios, and enemies. You shoot human after human. I don't think someone is necessarily going to be like "boy I love getting killstreaks online, now I'll go get one at the mall!" but these games absolutely contribute to our culture of violence.

After the Columbine shootings they blamed Doom; I think that Call of Duty is in a completely different universe. I think it does deserve some scrutiny. Unfortunately, the people who are submitting these bills don't differentiate games at all, and they'll all be seen as one Video Game monolith. That's completely idiotic.

I just think that dismissing the idea that video games contribute to our culture of violence is a fairly ignorant thing to do.

what about movies? or Spy novels? Bond forked a man in the face in one of those.
music? people make art of what society is like.
this country loves violence. they love Football more than baseball because someone can get their head ripped off and that thrills people.
games offer a thousand different worlds. violent games are a small amount of total video games.
people get shot over twitter posts, should that be banned as well? violence and bloody conflict is in this country's DNA, until the culture changes, this will keep on happening.

 

[Safe Bet]

scapegoat time

 

[Dion Blaster]

what about movies? or Spy novels? Bond forked a man in the face in one of those.
music? people make art of what society is like.
this country loves violence. they love Football more than baseball because someone can get their head ripped off and that thrills people.
games offer a thousand different worlds. violent games are a small amount of total video games.
people get shot over twitter posts, should that be banned as well? violence and bloody conflict is in this country's DNA, until the culture changes, this will keep on happening.

I think they all contribute, but you can't deny that violent shooting games and movies probably have the most influence, followed by violent music. I also think it would be dumb to brush off the influence certain games (aka the most popular genre) can have. Now I don't think there is anything we can do to regulate it, other than parents doing actual parenting rather than trying to ban certain games.

And you're right, it is in America's DNA, which I guess is the whole reason these violent games are popular in the first place.

When it comes to Newtown it looks like videogames had 0% to do with absolutely anything, so I don't get why certain media are trying to drag them into the blame game.

The Washington Post had a piece on this yesterday, once again reinforcing that this is a ridiculous myth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/17/ten-country-comparison-suggests-theres-little-or-no-link-between-video-games-and-gun-murders/

Link this shit around, please.

I think the far more shocking thing out of this chart is how far above every other country we are in gun deaths per capita. Holy shit.

Excellent visualization of how this is an America problem, not a videogame problem.

 

[Gummb]

The Washington Post had a piece on this yesterday, once again reinforcing that this is a ridiculous myth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/17/ten-country-comparison-suggests-theres-little-or-no-link-between-video-games-and-gun-murders/

Link this shit around, please.

This is a spurrious correlation (which means a linear regression is basically inapplicable) and has little relevence to the actual study being held which is on the effects "violent videogames" have on children.

This will be a good study to finally have.

 

[kyoya]

This is the equivalent of blaming the coffee maker or toaster for making you late to work. You can't blame media or a machine for an action that another human being carried out.

It's now looking like Adam Lanza had Mommy issues, he didn't want to grow up and have responsibilities. It's still unclear to me why his Mom pulled him out of school - kind of a big social mistake right there. Lanza had nowhere to go to but home for a long time.

We can't lock Adam Lanza up because he's dead, we can't stare at Adam Lanza in a courtroom because he's dead. So now we gotta lock-up the game consoles and put them in the court of public opinion (and unfairly I might add). All we got left of Adam Lanza is those goofy-looking mugshots where he looks the creepy stalker from "The Bodyguard" or a more demented version of Stuart from MAD TV. Now the media has to find something else to talk about because we are in aftermath mode and they can't visit the homes and funerals of dead children (rightly so - NBC pulled back their coverage on tonight's nightly news broadcast).

If any one of the media organizations read this, just ask gamers how games have brought people together, - yes that's right..games bring people together! Games have helped formed life-long friendships, kept many young people out of trouble, inspired other works, helped war vets cope with PTSD, and how video games help start a non-profit that helps put game consoles in hospitals for sick children. I could go and on. If I were a billionaire I'd send a truck of video game handhelds and consoles to surviving kids of that school. Put me on TV and I'll explain why, I don't care, now the media has kind of screwed any chances of that up.

It's when you socially isolate like Adam Lanza you can start to become a little crazy and obviously detatched from reality. Isolation was the huge horrific theme in "The Shining", (it was never the ghosts) and we all know how Jack Torrance turned out when Wendy suggested they make a change and "leave" the Overlook. Lanza's Mom suggested he leave the house instead in this scenario, and we now know the outcome.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

I have seen studies that say one thing and studies that say another thing. I wonder which way will these studies go, and hopefully it's the damn truth already.

I can't stand the monsters that make these evil violent video games!!!

But you work for the company who did this!

 

[madmackem]

The percent that would even hide behind violent games caused them to do something violent would be so small to the amount of people that play them, it would be like saying ban all booze because of the number of deaths releated to that is sky high. I think people blaming video games are so out of touch with the actual numbers that play them they havnt got a clue. I dont know how it works in the us but in the uk you have to be 18 to buy a game like cod and you get carded at the till like you would buying booze or cigs, the law in this case has done its bit then the blame lands at the door of the parents and no one else.

 

[Gummb]

for fucks sake. why do I ever look at polls? they do not make me feel good about this country.

how do more people think media is the problem then the actual guns? look outside your own borders for solutions to these problems. christ.

A comparative analysis would be interesting, but based on our Constitution and the second amendment, outright banning guns would be difficult to pass. As such, it might be good to look at social construction as well.

 

[Gummb]

The percent that would even hide behind violent games caused them to do something violent would be so small to the amount of people that play them, it would be like saying ban all booze because of the number of deaths releated to that is sky high. I think people blaming video games are so out of touch with the actual numbers that play them they havnt got a clue. I dont know how it works in the us but in the uk you have to be 18 to buy a game like cod and you get carded at the till like you would buying booze or cigs, the law in this case has done its bit then the blame lands at the door of the parents and no one else.

The same is basically true in the United States. However, parents often grant ready access of mature content to minors without second guessing. Additionally, the US is largely fragmented based on a number of factors and it is difficult to standardize anything. Even more, thinking of the US as a single legal entity does not work because of the federal system.

If there is a correlation found between violent videogames and crime committed by children, it would be wise to seek out not the videogame makers, but the parents like you suggest.

 

[Gummb]

This is the equivalent of blaming the coffee maker or toaster for making you late to work. You can't blame media or a machine for an action that another human being carried out.

It's now looking like Adam Lanza had Mommy issues, he didn't want to grow up and have responsibilities. It's still unclear to me why his Mom pulled him out of school - kind of a big social mistake right there. Lanza had nowhere to go to but home for a long time.

We can't lock Adam Lanza up because he's dead, we can't stare at Adam Lanza in a courtroom because he's dead. So now we gotta lock-up the game consoles and put them in the court of public opinion (and unfairly I might add). All we got left of Adam Lanza is those goofy-looking mugshots where he looks the creepy stalker from "The Bodyguard" or a more demented version of Stuart from MAD TV. Now the media has to find something else to talk about because we are in aftermath mode and they can't visit the homes and funerals of dead children (rightly so - NBC pulled back their coverage on tonight's nightly news broadcast).

If any one of the media organizations read this, just ask gamers how games have brought people together, - yes that's right..games bring people together! Games have helped formed life-long friendships, kept many young people out of trouble, inspired other works, helped war vets cope with PTSD, and how video games help start a non-profit that helps put game consoles in hospitals for sick children. I could go and on. If I were a billionaire I'd send a truck of video game handhelds and consoles to surviving kids of that school. Put me on TV and I'll explain why, I don't care, now the media has kind of screwed any chances of that up.

It's when you socially isolate like Adam Lanza you can start to become a little crazy and obviously detatched from reality. Isolation was the huge horrific theme in "The Shining", (it was never the ghosts) and we all know how Jack Torrance turned out when Wendy suggested they make a change and "leave" the Overlook. Lanza's Mom suggested he leave the house instead in this scenario, and we now know the outcome.

I do not think this is an attack on videogames, but rather a study to discern whether or not violent videogames have a negative impact on children. I personally think they probably do, just like violent movies, but with the player actually willfully choosing to engage as they play. Videogames have been found to have numerous positive effects as well, but not one of those studies focused on violence. It will be good to study this and I don't think anything is wrong with it.

You are right, there are many reasons why this shooting happened, and perhaps a study on parenthood in the United States would be a more prosperous undertaking. However, I do not see this as a bad thing and is, as you suggest, a typical response given the situation.

[EDIT] Hello! 3 Posts! It's late, i'm going to bed now...

 

[antitrop]

No, that's how big Star Craft is, and now Street Fighter 4 and Tekken whatever number it's up to. Star Craft was practically Korea's national sport for a while now. Even grandmothers were playing it.

League of Legends has taken over Korea. StarCraft 1 and StarCraft II both have minimal impact over there now.

StarCraft II even dropped out of the Top 20 games played in PC bangs (cafes) for a while, meanwhile LoL is gaining players exponentially. StarCraft 1 is also still more popular in Korea than StarCraft II is, and has always been that way. Also now that all SC1 tournaments have switched over the SC2 format, SC1 is obviously losing popularity as well.

Well known StarCraft II players have been switching over to League here and there (not a ton of them, but it's a big deal whenever it happens) and StarCraft II teams have been dying left and right over the past six months (CheckSix, Quantic, SlayerS, and others).

Meanwhile League of Legends is taking over the world. The StarCraft eSports bubble is dead and Heart of the Swarm will not bring it back.

 

[TheGreyHulk]

Videogames already have their own ratings systems that all bug retailers follow. Its like the mpaa ratings. You dont let your 5 year old go watch rated R movies, why let them play rated R (M) games?

Parents need to take more responsibility with the content they allow their children to play.

The elder generations still view videogames as things for kids when in reality its adults playing them.

I think we need to switch the ratings naming in the us. We should follow the mpaa system for mature and teen games. Rate them R and PG-13. It should help with awareness a bit, but ultimately its the parents needing to step up and get more involved in their kids lives. Stop using tv and videogames as a tool to keep your kids occupied.

 

[Sanctuary]

League of Legends has taken over Korea. StarCraft 1 and StarCraft II both have minimal impact over there now.

StarCraft II even dropped out of the Top 20 games played in PC bangs (cafes) for a while, meanwhile LoL is gaining players exponentially. StarCraft 1 is also still more popular in Korea than StarCraft II is, and has always been that way. Also now that all SC1 tournaments have switched over the SC2 format, SC1 is obviously losing popularity as well.

Well known StarCraft II players have been switching over to League here and there (not a ton of them, but it's a big deal whenever it happens) and StarCraft II teams have been dying left and right over the past six months (CheckSix, Quantic, SlayerS, and others).

Meanwhile League of Legends is taking over the world. The StarCraft eSports bubble is dead and Heart of the Swarm will not bring it back.

Ok? LoL is also pretty new in comparison for the purposes of that chart. I guess my post did make it seem like Star Craft was still the biggest game in Korea, but I honestly haven't been keeping up with what's popular with PC gaming over there for the last two years. You can't deny the impact Star Craft had over there though for a very long time.

 

[antitrop]

Ok? LoL is also pretty new in comparison for the purposes of that chart.

Has nothing to do with the chart, I was on a complete tangent, haha.

It's like an automatic StarCraft fanboy response. You start talking about StarCraft, Korea, and eSports and my mind is instantly in other places.

 

[Littlegator]

I get so tired of this. Everyone tries to point fingers for what's to blame, and what's to blame is Adam Lanza. At the end of the day, he made the decision to do what he did, and no amount of media is going to warp someone's decision-making processes enough to change that.

Upholding the Second Amendment will protect us from fake, non-existent, hypothetical bullshit.

These shooting are REAL. Trying to prevent them has to happen. Doing that at the expense of a bunch of asshole gun enthusiast "rights" isn't actually an expense at all.

Also, this mentality that any strengthening of gun control is an assault on our holy constitution is an offensive and dangerous line of thought. God damn. If we restrict the sale of guns to the mentally ill, or reinstate the ban on assault weapons, it's not a repeal of your beloved vague, anachronistic, murder-assisting mistake.

Would you mind reading up on Hobbes and Locke before shitting up this thread with insults and hyperbole?

It's ludicrous that the gun show loophole exists at all.

Go to a gun show and you can buy a semi-automatic rifle on the spot with no background check if you have the cash on hand. Have they ever tracked gun show guns to see how often they turn up in crimes? Why even buy black market guns if you can get one at a gun show without a background check?

http://magdumpblog.com/2012/09/gun-show-statistics/

or people could just stop for a second and read a bit before demanding laws be put in place

 

[MotionBlue]

Anything to distract from real issues. It's not the borderline police state, corrupt government, rotting infrastructure, ailing economy, aging workforce, ass-backwards health system, draconian mental wellness system, plutocratic political system or gun/violence obssessed consumer culture; ITS DEM VIDYA GAEMS.

Is it something in the water? Why does America have such a horrifically high gun violence/death rate?


Tangent:
Working in retail, Video Game ratings are already the most enforced.

Anecdotal:
Parents just don't give a fuck, the vast majority of them have an apathetic "They see worse on TV" attitude. The majority of M rated games are bought by parents for kids under 16, in my experience.

 

[SolidSnakex]

“Major corporations, including the video game industry, make billions on marketing and selling violent content to children,” Rockefeller concludes. “They have a responsibility to protect our children. If they do not, you can count on the Congress to take a more aggressive role.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12...ence-in-games?abthid=50d3ee5f6d69ef471400001d

And some were wondering why gamers get annoyed with these studies. That highlighted part is exactly why. You have politicians just itching to stick their noses where it doesn't belong. And since when is the job of corporations to babysit kids?

 

[derFeef]

I almost missed the USA up there, jeeze.

 

[thepotatoman]

Is anyone else shocked how Dead Space 2's nursery/elementry school level hasn't been brought up much? I mean it takes place in a school where you are literally shooting the reanimated bodies of babies and young children in that level.

And yet Starcraft somehow gets all the attention. If people wanted us to look deeper into violent video games as an overall issue, it's weird that they focus on one of the tamer, less relevant ones.

 

[bigboss370]

Is anyone else shocked how little Dead Space 2's nursery/elementry school level hasn't been brought up much? I mean it takes place in a school where you are literally shooting the reanimated bodies of babies and young children in that level.

And yet Starcraft somehow gets all the attention. If people wanted us to look deeper into violent video games as an overall issue, it's weird that they focus on one of the tamer, less relevant ones.

what have you done? >_<

 

[thepotatoman]

what have you done? >_<

Just figured if we're going to defend video game violence, its only fair to do it while thinking about the worst of video game violence.

Trivia: When a Pack member is shot they will scream like a young child.

Maybe there is such thing as glorifying violence too much in our games. This disturbing stuff is pretty desensitized in the game itself.

 

[Pyronite]

Bans totally work! Just look at Chicago!

Hey, genius, if a bad guy wants to get a gun a ban wont stop them.

Guns aren't the issue, chap. I've never ever heard of a gun killing anyone. I've heard of PEOPLE killing people - but i've never seen a gun jump up on its own accord and kill anyone.

Might as well ban sharpened pencils since they can be used as lethal weapons.

"Cigarettes don't cause cancer, PEOPLE cause cancer."

Take a look at the U.K. and every other developed nation around the world. When you can step outside Chicago and/or have your Auntie buy you a gun to introduce into illegal trade, gun violence is much more prevalent.

We already know the solution. I'd be more more empathetic with gun owners if they just said "I really would prefer to keep my hobby intact" instead of pretending as if more guns equals a safer society, anywhere, worldwide.

 

[Pineconn]

If this bill were proposed by a Republican, I could only imagine the kind of comments that would be made.

Gun violence is an interesting crime. The second amendment is a protected value in the U.S., and obviously it will never be abolished. That chart wants you to believe that gun violence is out of control in the U.S. compared to other countries, but it brings up other questions. Are Americans worse people? (Doubt it.) Are firearms harder to obtain in other countries? (No idea.) Are other crimes committed more frequently in other countries? (Again, no idea.)

inb4 'Murrica

 

[Amir0x]

It's always Democrats leading the charge on this stuff. Why are Democrats always shitting the bed over videogames? They were behind the so-called "Family Entertaining Protection Act", and had the ever lovely Hillary Clinton behind it.

"...in which videogames with pornographic and violent content is being peddled to children."

How about "hey parents, check out the obviously violent videogame and make sure your kids aren't playing them" never enters into the equation. This is exactly why some people go the entire opposite direction when it comes to government, because they see shit like this and stuff like Bucky Balls being banned and just think "when does it end?" Stop trading responsibility, government. Let parents do what they're supposed to do and when they don't, blame the parents. Videogames are not guns, they don't require government oversight to protect us from them. That's a parents job.

Bans totally work! Just look at Chicago!

Hey, genius, if a bad guy wants to get a gun a ban wont stop them.

Guns aren't the issue, chap. I've never ever heard of a gun killing anyone. I've heard of PEOPLE killing people - but i've never seen a gun jump up on its own accord and kill anyone.

Might as well ban sharpened pencils since they can be used as lethal weapons.

We need better recognition of the mentally unstable. Banning of anything wont stop them from acquiring another tool to do the job.

You must be Manos: The Hans of Fate twin or something. How can anyone just so completely ignore the reality of the world? Bans do work. They have worked in virtually every country that has tried them extensively. Tough laws to acquire a gun have worked in virtually every country that has tried them. The less guns on the street, the less people die from them.

I am not for banning the right to own guns, but I am for the right of banning certain TYPES of guns and magazines and whatnot. Because there is no reason anyone in this or any other country needs to carry around weapons whose sole purpose is mowing down throngs of people. No sane person hunts with this stuff; no sane person uses it for protection (unless that protection is from the Mafia or some shit).

If you want a lack of solid gun control, that's fine, but you guys need to stop pretending that your alternate reality has any even remote resemblance to the what the hard statistical facts have shown us time after time. If you make it difficult for people to acquire guns and have strict standards (like, any gun owner has to pass training on how to use a gun, much like how people need to get a license to drive a car), there will end up with less violence in the country. It's just the simple truth that has been demonstrated across the world. In the hypothetical fairytale world for the NRA, the result will factually be more mass murders and more kids being killed. It's what is a direct result from inaction on gun control.

 

[Woo-Fu]

I'd be more more empathetic with gun owners if they just said "I really would prefer to keep my hobby intact" instead of pretending as if more guns equals a safer society, anywhere, worldwide.

They might start to care what you think if you stopped thinking all of them think the same thing.

Short of people making WMDs in their garage I don't think the government can or should be regulating ownership of any machine.

 

[Fess]

Just figured if we're going to defend video game violence, its only fair to do it while thinking about the worst of video game violence.



Maybe there is such thing as glorifying violence too much in our games. This disturbing stuff is pretty desensitized in the game itself.

I don't think we should defend the worst of video game violence any more than defending the worst of movie violence. I want to puke if I see movies like Hostel and I wouldn't even buy a game like Manhunt if I got it for $0.99, simply because I think it's pretty disturbed to have that type of stuff for entertainment. Yes, it's just a movie, just a game. Doesn't change the fact that it's still sick.
But I still don't think violence is to blame for disturbing stuff that happens in real life. A person with a sick mind might get ideas, definitely, but that would happen without movies and video game violence too, they would just use sick stuff on internet or something else to get the ideas instead.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Well, here the NRA goes with their anti-entertainment rant. Bringing up videogames and then mentioning a flash game called "Kindergarten Killer". He also brought up Bulletstorm, Splatterhouse and GTA.

Of course this goon also kicked off the thing by implying that teachers should have guns to protect kids in schools.

 

[saltinekracka]

This is a spurrious correlation (which means a linear regression is basically inapplicable) and has little relevence to the actual study being held which is on the effects "violent videogames" have on children.

This will be a good study to finally have.

Came to say this. For all we know the "video game spending" could be 90% Wii games. Likely not, but you get the gist.

 

[SolidSnakex]

This conference is absolutely amazing. They aren't budging an inch on guns and are now saying that they're asking congress to pass a bill that'll have armed security in every school in the country before kids get back to school next year.

 

[Ranger X]

What they should study is mental illness and the impact of our society on people suffering from it. Seriously, there's no other way around in order to solve this violence problem. People will forever kill with whatever tool they will own and this forever and as long as it's not their health that we are focusing on. Simple.

 

[canedaddy]

Well, here the NRA goes with their anti-entertainment rant. Bringing up videogames and then mentioning a flash game called "Kindergarten Killer". He also brought up Bulletstorm, Splatterhouse and GTA.

"Kindergarten Killer" is a real thing? Ugh.

 

[Jarsonot]

The problem I have with gun control is that it disarms the people who follow the law.

We tried banning alcohol, it didn't take. We are CURRENTLY banning weed, crack, heroin, etc. - doesn't seem to be working. Don't these people know they're breaking the law!?

If I was a criminal I would love to hear that none of my prospective victims was armed.

Also, in regards to the successful "ban" of guns in other countries - were guns as prevalent in those countries before the ban? Did they have a culture where you just KNOW people will go bat shit if you try to take guns away?

Regardless of whether or not such legislation would solve random acts of violence, would enforcing it be possible, or would it start another "whiskey rebellion"?

 

[mr.beers]

Total Biscuit - Tragedy and Video Game Violence


Excellent video it is a must watch.

 

[bigboss370]

Total Biscuit - Tragedy and Video Game Violence


Excellent video it is a must watch.

watching now thanks.

 

[Psychotext]

"Kindergarten Killer" is a real thing? Ugh.

Try it, it seems to work along the same lines as the "only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

Spoiler

Except in this case the bad guy seems to have body armour.

Edit - glol, they took it offline. It was laughable anyway (basically you're a kid with a gun killing a bunch of kids with guns).

 

[PKrockin]

And the Newgrounds award for Best Use of Gradients goes to...

 

[ChristianSpicer]

Video Games has issued it's own press release responded to the NRA.


http://youtu.be/A_PlMbyW2QI


Also, this isn't real...but come on, you knew that already