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Oh Hirai ;)... A new Penny Arcade classic comic :).

buckfutter said:
I do. They wouldn't come out and say the exact figures, and additionally claimed that they were within industry standard bounds. That's far more damaging.
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Maybe they were counting a 5% defect rate of each piece of hardware in the 360.
 
Skilotonn said:
Again like I said above, I don't remember them outright denying hardware problems
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Well, how long did it take them to admit there was an issue? Almost 2 years...

Skilotonn said:
I wouldn't even compare the two... you honestly think the rumble lie is smaller than MS not having/showing exact hardware failure figures?
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3-5%
 
buckfutter said:
I do. They wouldn't come out and say the exact figures, and additionally claimed that they were within industry standard bounds. That's far more damaging.
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I'm not really talking publicity damage actually, I'm really just talking about how dumb Sony thinks gamers are to believe something like that - like for example, if tomorrow the Dual Shock 3 came out finally with rumble and motion sensing, but with only one analog stick, with saying that it's not possible to have all that at the same time even though you know damn well that it is - wouldn't you be thinking "WTF?"

That's all I'm saying...
 
Skilotonn said:
I'm not really talking publicity damage actually, I'm really just talking about how dumb Sony thinks gamers are to believe something like that - like for example, if tomorrow the Dual Shock 3 came out finally with rumble and motion sensing, but with only one analog stick, with saying that it's not possible to have all that at the same time even though you know damn well that it is - wouldn't you be thinking "WTF?"

That's all I'm saying...
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Sony was dealing with a lawsuit, MS was trying to avoid one.
 
Skilotonn said:
I'm not really talking publicity damage actually, I'm really just talking about how dumb Sony thinks gamers are to believe something like that - like for example, if tomorrow the Dual Shock 3 came out finally with rumble and motion sensing, but with only one analog stick, with saying that it's not possible to have all that at the same time even though you know damn well that it is - wouldn't you be thinking "WTF?"

That's all I'm saying...
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And how dumb was Microsoft thinking that gamers were when, in the face of retailers claiming upwards of 30% return rates, that the defect rate was perfectly normal - within 3 to 5 percent?

I know exactly what you were trying to say.
 
LOL.

I caught so much hell on this board when I was complaining that the PS3 lacked rumble. So many people said they hated rumble, turned it off, thought it was last gen; etc. This comic nails how Sony has been two steps behind for a while now.
 
Yoboman said:
This thread has lost its funny, all serious business now.
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srsly. i mean who cares? they all lie. no biggie. hell i love Sony just as much as the next guy (unless that next guy is Barnolde) but if liking them depended on them being truthful i'd hate them by now. as a gamer it's hard to say Sony and truth in the same sentence without cracking a smile. and MS? :lol yeah......i doubt they got to where they are right now by being some angelic 'truth brigade'. companies lie. i know....shocking.

but not Nintendo. Nintendo wuvz us.
 
Skilotonn said:
I'm glad that the "rumble isn't next-gen" and "impossible for rumble & motion detection to co-exist" straight-up lies are brought forward again - because I think a few people selectively forgot those...
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Kind of hard to forget when in every single thread where rumble is mentioned for the PS3 someone feels the need to come in and say "I thought they said it was impossible!" or "I thought rumble was last gen".
 
I had a mostly positive response typed up

And then it descended into PS3 bashing, almost of its own volition, so I deleted it

Oh PS3, why you make me hit you, I only hit you because you make me crazy baby
 
buckfutter said:
And how dumb was Microsoft thinking that gamers were when, in the face of retailers claiming upwards of 30% return rates, that the defect rate was perfectly normal - within 3 to 5 percent?

I know exactly what you were trying to say.
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I guess you don't because that isn't what I was trying to say... you know what, let's forget it... no company is honest, I loved the comic, back to the comic...

Yoboman said:
This thread has lost its funny, all serious business now.
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Not really, but sure, back to the comic...
 
Victrix said:
I had a mostly positive response typed up

And then it descended into PS3 bashing, almost of its own volition, so I deleted it

Oh PS3, why you make me hit you, I only hit you because you make me crazy baby
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Victrix :lol
 
I'm still surprised to see how much people missed rumble. I generally don't notice it until I set my controller down and it starts vibrating against a table or something.
 
God dammit guys, why did this crap have to come into this thread? Let's laugh at PA.

You know, both MS and Sony lie. MS's big one this gen is the hardware dodging, and (one of?) Sony's is the blatant trashing of rumble.

Guess what, Nintendo lies too.

I. SAID. WOW!
 
I love the they do it too defence. It's great, really.

Minimum of effort, usually don't even need to back up your claims and great payoff.

Either that or the Chew Bacca defence is my favorite.
 
Splatt said:
I don't know why but it reminds me of this little gem

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:lol


would have made laugh to death if it had been bungie or miyamoto instead of wright :p
 
Didn't get maximum yuks out of this supposed classic. The pink shirt was a nice touch though.
 
_leech_ said:
Bitch when rumble's not there, bitch when it is. Shock.
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Sony.
 
I still cannot understand how Kaz has balls to announce that rumble is back in a TGS conference! WTF is going on ?? And they are proud to give a list of games that are compatible?? Are we in 1997?
Naked Snake said:
And what's up with the SNES colored face buttons?
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Maybe because Sony actually stole the design from Nintendo?
not
joking
 
antiloop said:
This one was just bad.

Old rumble didn't work with tilt according to Immersion for one.
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See, I told you guys people believed that crap! :lol

Dai Kaiju said:
Um maybe it's because he is Mexican, idiot.
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And you said the funny was gone from the thread... :lol
 
_leech_ said:
Bitch when rumble's not there, bitch when it is. Shock.
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I think they're poking fun at the way Sony handled it, no? (rumble is last gen, can't put rumble and motion control into the same controller etc.)
 
Sony lied about rumble being impossible. Slightly insulting, we're not dumb enough to believe that.

Microsoft lied about the defective X360 rate, saying it was well within industry standards. MASSIVELY INSULTING, what, you think we're thick in the head?

Yet, Sony gets the hate. Bashing Sony is as popular as listening to crappy wannabe-metal bands these days.
 
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