Yeah but once you play it and realize you've been playing the same game in a different coat for twenty years, the fun starts to diminish.The games are still good though.
Yeah but once you play it and realize you've been playing the same game in a different coat for twenty years, the fun starts to diminish.The games are still good though.
Yeah but once you play it and realize you've been playing the same game in a different coat for twenty years, the fun starts to diminish.
Not reallyYeah but once you play it and realize you've been playing the same game in a different coat for twenty years, the fun starts to diminish.
Alright, I gotta step in here on all this RBY hate. RBY still stands up as one of the better Pokemon games, and one of the best GB games ever. This is not nostalgia talking, I replayed Yellow earlier this year on the VC and was constantly impressed by how well it held up. Yes wrap sucks. Yes I hate Zubat. Yes item management is a pain in the ass. Yes Psychic is crazy unbalanced. But Kanto is a very well-realized world with complex areas to explore, real secrets that the game doesn't shine a spotlight on, a diverse amount of Pokemon, excellent pacing, and is by far the LEAST LINEAR Pokemon title even today.
Show me a damn dungeon in BW and beyond anywhere as complex as this. This is a MID GAME DUNGEON.
There are over 30 trainers to fight, including your rival and a boss. You had to traverse this massive building while also solving puzzles. You had to sit, think, and backtrack if you wanted to get everything. You got a LAPRAS and a MASTER BALL for clearing this. Now that's a reward.
Other areas like Mt. Moon, Victory Road, Seafoam Islands etc. are also complex in their own way. In Seafoam, you had push blocks down several levels in order to disrupt the flow of water and surf so you can catch a legendary Pokemon. There's no puzzle even a tenth as interesting in Sun/Moon (a game I still like). RBY had real ass RPG dungeons. You got lost, you had to use a bunch of items, and when you got out you let out a desperate sigh and just prayed you could get to the Pokemon Center soon enough. YOU ENTERED ROCK TUNNEL A BOY AND LEFT A MAN.
And back to an aforementioned point: this game is the least linear. When you got the Celadon, you basically had a huge chunk of the map completely open to you. There were multiple ways to get to Fuschia City, and you can do Fuschia or Saffron first. Even if you solely followed the story, you are taken in unexpected directions, like having to go through Vermillion City lower on the map instead of the closest town.
Before someone posts that glitch sheet... ain't no one care about that. Yes the game has a ton of glitches, but unless you seek them, you will never encounter them. The game is not balanced, but it was the first game and I have no idea if Game Freak even considered the series becoming a competitive juggernaut. I mean Knights of the Round in FFVII wasn't balanced. Mewtwo is the Knights of the Round of Pokemon.
Obviously people love RBY and Kanto for nostalgia purposes, but there are some seriously ambitious design decisions in the original game that contributed to it being a success at the time and still enjoyable to this day.
This.For me, yep. Finally dethroned my favorites HG/SS. There are definitely stuff to complain about like the S.O.S. system or the unskippable cutscenes, but yea, it was refreshing as fuck.
I've been playing since Red and Blue.Yeah but once you play it and realize you've been playing the same game in a different coat for twenty years, the fun starts to diminish.
Really? Lost respect for trying to change the series after the past games have been doing the same thing over and over again?Not even close. A bloated, poorly told story. The storytelling method was absolutely brain-dead and had zero respect for the player. I could barely recommend this game to a 5 year old due to how much hand holding there is, and then random spikes in difficulty with the totem Pokemon.
The Ultra Beasts had a chance to be incorporated into the story and give it weight but they were lazily relegated to the post-game. The characters are so poorly developed and the world so uninteresting and flat coupled with the amount of self-congratulatory bullcrap everyone and their mother is saying in-game about the region makes it unbearable. Yes, the game looks pretty but its hard to appreciate because the game can't stop riding its own hype for more than 30 seconds.
So many half-assed features like the PokeFinder(? the camera thing), the online plaza, Ride Pokemon...Not to mention all the obviously bad and insane decisions they're making in regards to competitive Pokemon and the metagame. And none of this is to mention the questionable new designs for new mons and Alolan variants alike.
It's a gross disappointment on a huge scale and has lost respect all I had for Game Freak and the Pokemon franchise.
I know this is a bit of a rant but this game burned me so badly. There's so many design things I hate about it as well, like the stupid arbitrary barriers that exist until you've beaten x person. So so so so so lazily designed.
Gen II > IV > III > VII > VI > I > V
Sun and Moon has by far the worst Pokemon designs and worst aesthetic/setting choice, but an excellent story, characters, and a really refreshing take on gameplay.
Really tremendous shame on those designs though.
Gen II, son.
Really? Lost respect for trying to change the series after the past games have been doing the same thing over and over again?
Haven't played Pokémon in years. Will jump in on the first Switch release as long as it doesn't release on 3DS too.
Yeah Gen V was really bad, too.Gen V tho
FTFY
No, but they definitely make the top 4 for me. The original RBGY will always be the best for me. This post sums it up best:
I had a great time with Sun and Moon and really hope the Stars rumor is true (back to Kanto baby, BELIEVE).
But with that said, the crown remains on HG/SS for me still.
There's something off to me about the 3D pokemon games. Maybe just growing up used to the 2D sprites is the reason, but I always preferred the sprite styles of gens 1-4 to the kind of 3D models in the more recent games. Even if there are good quality of life improvements, I just don't enjoy them as much. The best pokemon game/gen for me would be a tie between RBY and RSE(even though 7/10 too much water).
I loved gen 2, but damn it had the worst starters. They are good, but not great.
No, but they definitely make the top 4 for me. The original RBGY will always be the best for me. This post sums it up best:
Bruh...no one wanted to fight 30 trainers and get frustrated teleporting up and down eight floors for a fkn Lapras. Master balls are also a very overrated commodity in these games.
2nd Gen Remakes still have that crown.
Second gen is still the best in the time and place it came out.
What. The. Fuck?
You have the best starter ever in Totodile, along with Chikorita and Cyndaquil who are top-tier too.
It also helps that instead of removing features like they do now they ADDED new things in.Gen 2 is still the best.Gold/Silver was supposed to send the series off and it shows.
The one thing I can knock BW2 is locking the awesome Route 10 music from the previous games to a particular NPC's house in a particular season. Still great that they managed to get it in there at all, but it deserves better than that! But yeah, in all seriousness, I agree. The fact that something so minor like that is one of my few complaints about the games really shows just how much I enjoyed them! xDBW2 should be blowing this thread up. It's a whole tier above any of the good Pokemon games. Campaign, region, post-game, unique features, aesthetics, variety, etc. - it's strong on all fronts. Going by Gamefreak's comments, of the effort not being worth it for most players, it will be the last Pokemon with an outstanding post-game.
HGSS inherits problems from the deeply flawed Gen 2 games. Johto is a weak region overall and the return to Kanto is a complete mess.
That said, I haven't played Sun/Moon personally, so I can't really comment on the OP's question.
Depends on what you are looking for in a Pokemon game.
As someone who primarily loves online battling and trading, X and Y remain the crown champions.