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One Battle After Another | Official Trailer | Leonardo DiCaprio | Benicio Del Toro

I feel like it would be a shame if people didn't see this movie because they don't agree with the political beliefs of the characters.

The problem is Hollywood and MSM has been pushing so much woke agenda that it poisoned the minds of many to the point that anything that touch the subject such as immigration would seen as bias leaning toward certain side by default.
 
What a great movie! I went in totally blind. Hadn't seen trailers, previews, nothing. Cinematography-wise. acting-wise, pacing-wise - absolutely fantastic. Everything came together masterfully. Best movie I've seen this year for sure.
 
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This was a really excellent movie that I felt captured a lot of the feeling of being a millennial.

Extended spoiler-filled thoughts in reference to the topic discussion:
I don't see how someone could interpret it as pro-radical left. Perhaps pro-left if you take that to mean people who believe in equality and inclusion as ideals. However, when it comes to the radical side, they all completely failed. The group at the beginning was chaotic and achieved nothing but putting a target on their own backs. They spoke as large as a civil war but the most they ever did was cause a blackout which was then fixed. That is not changing society. It isn't even an effective threat. They were driven into hiding when one member ratted them out, but wait, how did they get into that situation? She was wild and tripped on power, so she tripped on using her sexuality on their enemy. However, he effortlessly tracked and infiltrated their activities and came into direct contact with her without any of them noticing. That is a total failure on their part. They were never going to succeed no matter how serious they ever ended up getting.

And that is exactly what we see. She sold people out and now a small handful of them are offed. This sends the rest into hiding for about decades wherein they accomplish so much nothing that the daughter of two of the originals thinks it is all fake and her dad is delusional. At this point their "movement" seems to be nothing more than a pirate radio station, which is absolutely comical in the era of podcasts. Yet their determination to continuing to associate with a criminal strand of their own ideals continues putting the target on them and they continue to fall. Leo has been screwing around so much he doesn't even remember their protocols, yet those who do remember their protocols are worn down from constant paranoia. This is discussed by the sisters at their fortified base, that they need young blood because they are too old and worn down from "the fight" and yet they have made zero progress for their notions. One small military team captures the whole base without a single shot fired. The film is clearly not pro-radicalization.

Yet it does support their care for one another, it shows good things happen when they look out for one another, not when they try fighting the government. After it makes fun of code-talk with Leo needing to prove himself over the phone (which I think is a jab at needing to know the perfect way to phrase everything in order to be accepted in left circles), the code-talk ends up being what his own daughter who hated that stuff relies on to recognize she is safe after her life in threatened due to old battles passing down to her generation. I thought that was a wonderful validation for why social coding exists while also offering a critique that falling too deep into that paranoid fear can make you blind to those who have a heart in unison with yours (referenced by the music devices), even to the level of becoming alien to your own family. This is the film showing an understanding that it is real problems that create these things, but the radicalization is a reactionary survival response rather than the stuff that actually helps the issues that caused the problems.

In this is where I think the heart of the film really rests. As a millennial, we have all experienced the results of systemic corruption leading to unpleasant outcomes. We may have been in a protest or two or at least had friends who did. Ranging from less to more extreme and less to more active, after decades of trying to change the world for the better, it is easy to feel like not much was fixed and fighting is pointless, to put more hope in the next generation than the idea that you'll ever be able to turn society around. Yet it is in the shift of perspective taking place within that sentiment, to look after the next generation and teach them how to look after others like that, those are the things that actually do effectively transform society over time. It may not be as exciting as one battle after another but it is also not as terrorizing. There aren't targets on your back, there aren't code words, there aren't fragmented relationships, what dissonance you have with societal systems isn't amplified in your every interaction with anyone.

So yeah, this film isn't pro-radical left. It feels more like someone who tried it, experienced the weaknesses, then saw what they truly wanted out of it in something a lot more stable and connected. It even seems to insinuate that even taking up that battle is what creates the radical right that it ends up fighting and dying alongside. Perhaps it is far better not to focus on whether your power fantasy is manifesting, but to see what good you are making when you get together with a dream of a better tomorrow and cultivate that. Leo's daughter is that good personified, and I think there is purpose in making the principle personified because the good will most often be the fruit of interpersonal connection. This point reminds me of the film The New World, which is also about how encounter between those foreign to one another, through love and conflict, transforms each while also making something new that exists whether or not either one wants to acknowledge that it is neither of them.

This is a brilliant, heartful, intelligent, and funny film that cuts through the hottest contention points in our society today with an approachable relaxed look of deeply piercing insight of wisdom. Very well paced, well stated, well shot, beautiful sound. Love it, love it, love it.

Editing in further thoughts looking at Lockjaw:
He is an image of social coding reaching extremism on the right. In the military you are taught to conform to expectations. This is your strength, survival, group success, and personal honor. It is similar in the far right, you must live up to rather specific socially coded expectations in order to be considered a good whatever-you-are. He longed for this more than anything. He wanted to be recognized as the prime specimen of what he thought himself to be and for others to see and honor that. And yet, in order to meet their expectations he is denying a fact about himself: He loves black women. He may not have a good understanding of what love is or how it is done but it is clear that he really dreamed about the ability to always return to Perfidia and love her and be loved by her. This was incompatible with the expectation of how to be the "proper" version of what he was and she could not accept being forced into the expectations he had about the "right way" to be her.

All of his battles are born out of this obsession with living up to what he is expected to be. At the end with his daughter, he is lecturing her how "Maybe things could have been different" if she had "better manners"… he said as he was dragging her away to her death after kidnapping her. Nonetheless, it is an intelligent peek into his mindset. He hoped against hope that even the "unacceptable" parts of himself and his life could be accepted if they would just fit the prescribed expectation well enough, if they had good manners and knew how to present themselves. Everything in his mind was translated through a nebulous sense of propriety. As though real bigotry doesn't exist, as though enemies are only enemies because they themselves fail to meet standards somehow and that justifies ending their existence. This is indeed the particular dynamic by which the radical right sees the world and makes violence against it. It is the standard of social expectations over everything, against the noncompliant parts of oneself, against anyone who dare exist as other-than.
 
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I feel like it would be a shame if people didn't see this movie because they don't agree with the political beliefs of the characters.
I think it's that they believe the movie itself seems to root for the leftist narratives, not just because there's leftist characters in it.
 
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I get the feeling that this film along with Civil War and Eddington will age well and eventually win over those that either refuse to see them or view them as propaganda pieces.
 
I get the feeling that this film along with Civil War and Eddington will age well and eventually win over those that either refuse to see them or view them as propaganda pieces.
It does seem like people are really quick to declare things to be propaganda these days. But it might be that once it's no longer one of the hot button issues that people get saddled up for then they can revisit it on it's own terms. It would be a pity if people deny themselves the chance to watch a film like this because of that.
 
Finally caught it. Interesting plot and characters and acting was good can't hate on it !

thought we were going to see the mama at the end in like a surprising twist or something maybe to get them out of a jam haha I guess she did pass away or maybe the daughter will go out and find her somehow if she's still alive?? I don't know the ending letter was I guess good enough
 
I feel like it would be a shame if people didn't see this movie because they don't agree with the political beliefs of the characters.
I don't agree with Antifa, but I always watch movies with an open mind to emphatize with the characters. But I didn't think the movie itself was any good, nor was the story anything memorable or of high quality. I don't know, I can't believe how it could have such a high budget. It basically felt as if it was rushed in production. The writing for the characters was too nonsensical to take any of them seriously or become invested. The overall structure was also poor. A 5/10 movie.
 
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I had hopes for this one being good, but it let itself down with some badly contrived writing to facilitate events and a very poor ending.

"oh hey look! a car standing unlocked that is easily hotwired right next to where I jumped out of a car at an unplanned location"

Cliche native american mercenary tracker guy suddenly has a change of heart and decides to suicide in order to save the girl he just delivered, rather than simply not taking her to a place he knew was full of racist mercs who would kill her. Deus ex morality shift saves the day.

Somehow all of the cars managed to line up on the same winding roads despite us seeing them dealing with multiple intersections that were previously used as a plot device to highlight why he couldn't easily catch up.

Professional killer who shoots Colonel Cuck turns around and stops his car by the wreck of the colonel's car to seemingly check that Colonel Cuck is dead... but apparently just decided not to

Colonel Cuck somehow gets out of an absolute wreck of a car after having been shot in the face with a shotgun and suffing a high speed crash the absolutely demolished his car. Not only that but he managed to walk perfectly fine and find his way home in the middle of the desert where they've already established there are literally miles upon miles of nothing

The military didn't take the funky locating device from the daughter when they captured her, instead leaving it on her person so that it could create an emotional musical sync with her facthers when he used it TO TRACK HER

Emotional letter from mom showing that she is fine and encouraging her daughter to find her. This despite the fact that mom in this case is the most morally repugnant character in the movie having used everyone for her own egotistical whims, cheated on her partner with "the enemy" and cucked him into caring for the resulting child while she abandoned both him and the child for her own egotistical desires. Killed an innocent security guard and then sold out her fellow rebels, getting some killed, others locked up and selling out the cause and people she claimed to care for.

The writing really lets this one down. Nice to see Brenda from Scary Movie in a serious role though.
 
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I don't agree with Antifa, but I always watch movies with an open mind to emphatize with the characters. But I didn't think the movie itself was any good, nor was the story anything memorable or of high quality. I don't know, I can't believe how it could have such a high budget. It basically felt as if it was rushed in production. The writing for the characters was too nonsensical to take any of them seriously or become invested. The overall structure was also poor. A 5/10 movie.

This movie was super boring and pretentious. I was hardly paying attention to this and was looking at my phone most of the time
 
The revolutionaries stuff was a bit corny but I did like the movie overall. Not something I'll watch again though and don't think it's worthy of Oscar talk.
 
I had hopes for this one being good, but it let itself down with some badly contrived writing to facilitate events and a very poor ending.

"oh hey look! a car standing unlocked that is easily hotwired right next to where I jumped out of a car at an unplanned location"

Cliche native american mercenary tracker guy suddenly has a change of heart and decides to suicide in order to save the girl he just delivered, rather than simply not taking her to a place he knew was full of racist mercs who would kill her. Deus ex morality shift saves the day.

Somehow all of the cars managed to line up on the same winding roads despite us seeing them dealing with multiple intersections that were previously used as a plot device to highlight why he couldn't easily catch up.

Professional killer who shoots Colonel Cuck turns around and stops his car by the wreck of the colonel's car to seemingly check that Colonel Cuck is dead... but apparently just decided not to

Colonel Cuck somehow gets out of an absolute wreck of a car after having been shot in the face with a shotgun and suffing a high speed crash the absolutely demolished his car. Not only that but he managed to walk perfectly fine and find his way home in the middle of the desert where they've already established there are literally miles upon miles of nothing

The military didn't take the funky locating device from the daughter when they captured her, instead leaving it on her person so that it could create an emotional musical sync with her facthers when he used it TO TRACK HER

Emotional letter from mom showing that she is fine and encouraging her daughter to find her. This despite the fact that mom in this case is the most morally repugnant character in the movie having used everyone for her own egotistical whims, cheated on her partner with "the enemy" and cucked him into caring for the resulting child while she abandoned both him and the child for her own egotistical desires. Killed an innocent security guard and then sold out her fellow rebels, getting some killed, others locked up and selling out the cause and people she claimed to care for.

The writing really lets this one down. Nice to see Brenda from Scary Movie in a serious role though.
Finally caught it. Interesting plot and characters and acting was good can't hate on it !

thought we were going to see the mama at the end in like a surprising twist or something maybe to get them out of a jam haha I guess she did pass away or maybe the daughter will go out and find her somehow if she's still alive?? I don't know the ending letter was I guess good enough
I think it was pretty obvious that her father wrote the letter so the daughter could have closure. The mother doesn't care nor knows where they live.

Watched it today. Was good, not great.

Way overhyped cause PTA movie, as always
 
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I don't agree with Antifa, but I always watch movies with an open mind to emphatize with the characters. But I didn't think the movie itself was any good, nor was the story anything memorable or of high quality. I don't know, I can't believe how it could have such a high budget. It basically felt as if it was rushed in production. The writing for the characters was too nonsensical to take any of them seriously or become invested. The overall structure was also poor. A 5/10 movie.
I feel somewhat the same. Perhaps it was because I came in with so much hype and that I love Paul Thomas Anderson prior movies. I thought Leo's character could have been played by anyone else really.

One thing that really bugged me was the time skip. Eh? Didn't seem real, as the cars at the beginning of the film were modern, and then the cars in the middle seemed even older LOL. I enjoyed the chase at the end, and the ending for Lockjaw, but all the rest seemed really uninteresting. I really didn't like the mom, and found her somewhat repulsive, but I suppose that is PTA giving us a character that is realistic. Regardless, it was hard to feel empathy for her or her circumstances.
 
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I found it mediocre and infantile.
Not particularly effective as a thriller, suspense or kinetic imagery is not PTA forte, as a social commentary it's absurd, filled with cartoonish representations and plays right into the caricature that is politics today. One side is dehumanized, portrayed as evil for the sake of it while the other side is vindicated, sure they might be terrorists, but they are quirky and fighting the bad guys. Even the shitty ass mom they try to redeem in the end.

Now if you want to see a cool movie about right wing evil extremists chewing scenery and some bad ass moments, you should check out Avenging Force

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This was supposed to be a sequel to Invasion USA, and a vehicle for Chuck Norris to fight nazis after he saved USA from commies. Instead we get an American Ninja reunion with Dudikoff and Steve James fighting a white supremacist paramilitary group that hunts people. Check it out, it's unbashedly fun and it does not try to play into the hands of the audience like One Battle.

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I think it was pretty obvious that her father wrote the letter so the daughter could have closure. The mother doesn't care nor knows where they live.
I don't think that's the case at all. Why wouldn't Willa know her own dad's handwriting? PTA also has it read in the mom's voice. There's no reason to believe he wrote it. I think the point of the scene is that he's okay not trying to shield her from the world or truth anymore. The letter itself has lines from a real letter sent from someone in the Weather Underground to their child after leaving them. Bob is, as far as I can tell, always honest with his daughter, other than with the truth of the cowardice of her mom. It's about him realizing he needs to let go as a dad, and let her live, and she's been told, by everyone, her mom was a rat and a piece of shit who fucked them. There's no way Bob wrote this letter, it makes no sense at all, thematically or within the logic of film.

Fantastic film, really funny, great cinematography and acting, and a banger of a score.
 
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I don't think that's the case at all. Why wouldn't Willa know her own dad's handwriting? PTA also has it read in the mom's voice. There's no reason to believe he wrote it. I think the point of the scene is that he's okay not trying to shield her from the world or truth anymore. The letter itself has lines from a real letter sent from someone in the Weather Underground to their child after leaving them. Bob is, as far as I can tell, always honest with his daughter, other than with the truth of the cowardice of her mom. It's about him realizing he needs to let go as a dad, and let her live, and she's been told, by everyone, her mom was a rat and a piece of shit who fucked them. There's no way Bob wrote this letter, it makes no sense at all, thematically or within the logic of film.

Fantastic film, really funny, great cinematography and acting, and a banger of a score.
Some points:

* He obviously would have faked the handwriting, otherwise she would notice it.
* She read it in the mom's voice 'cause we are reading it from Willa's POV

I dunno man, I've seen it interpreted as being written by her father everywhere. And to think that "it makes no sense at all" that he would write it is also crazy. He wanted her to have closure with her mother so she could finaly have peace with it (who was really a piece of shit and a rat).

Perfidia was always painted a a narcisitic bitch. To think that she would care to write a letter to them, despite being a rat and leaving her child and husband without never trying to make contact with them, would be totaly out of the blue in terms of her character. Doesn't make sense.
 
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Some points:

* He obviously would have faked the handwriting, otherwise she would notice it.
* She read it in the mom's voice 'cause we are reading it from Willa's POV

I dunno man, I've seen it interpreted as being written by her father everywhere. And to think that "it makes no sense at all" that he would write it is also crazy. He wanted her to have closure with her mother so she could finaly have peace with it (who was really a piece of shit and a rat).

Perfidia was always painted a a narcisitic bitch. To think that she would care to write a letter to them, despite being a rat and leaving her child and husband without never trying to make contact with them, would be totaly out of the blue in terms of her character. Doesn't make sense.
Agree to disagree. "Seen it interpreted as being written by her father everywhere" on the internet doesn't make it true. The only place I've seen that is Reddit. If PTA says it, fine, I'll believe it, and I'll think it was a mistake, but I'll believe it. It would be lame as hell for a director to have a letter read out in the actors voice and then be like, nah it was actually not them writing it, it was someone else. If we saw the letter and just read it and we were given more of an indication from Leo's performance or any other character moment, then I'd believe it. But that's not the case. This is a Reddit theory and that's it until I hear from PTA.

Perfidia is painted as a complex character who is absolutely narcissistic, but that's why it works. It's believable that at some point in like 15 years she'd write a letter, because she's not just one thing. It does make sense, just like the real life occurrence of a Weather Underground member leaving their family, fucking off, and then writing a letter. It's also kind of self-serving, as it suggests that Willa should follow in her footsteps and be active in resistance fighting.
 
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It's obviously displayed as if the mom wrote the letter, it's the final act of cowardice of the movie. The ludicrous, ignorant, narcissist fighter who left everything behind and ratted her friends is actually sorry for her abject actions and wants her daughter to keep fighting the fight, because obviously guns are bad, okay kids? But you still should keep fighting the good fight, namely protesting the very same thing these good terrorists fought.

The film could be mediocre but the final scene nails it as dishonest too.
 
It's obviously displayed as if the mom wrote the letter, it's the final act of cowardice of the movie. The ludicrous, ignorant, narcissist fighter who left everything behind and ratted her friends is actually sorry for her abject actions and wants her daughter to keep fighting the fight, because obviously guns are bad, okay kids? But you still should keep fighting the good fight, namely protesting the very same thing these good terrorists fought.

The film could be mediocre but the final scene nails it as dishonest too.
As dishonest as the antifa side.
Turns out the mexican immigrants were better off fighting on their own.
 
Finally got around to this the other week. The movie is fine, it's ahead of the rest of the class in most categories like acting and cinematography etc. It's just painfully average at the "being an entertaining movie" part.

It feels like there's a much better screenplay in there somewhere that a script doctor could have probably saved.
 
This movie was super boring and pretentious. I was hardly paying attention to this and was looking at my phone most of the time
I haven't seen it yet, but I feel the same way about his films. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are the only two films from him that I think are brilliant.

I enjoy Leo's films, but Sean Penn is such a twat. It is one of the reasons I have not watched it yet.
 
I haven't seen it yet, but I feel the same way about his films. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are the only two films from him that I think are brilliant.

I enjoy Leo's films, but Sean Penn is such a twat. It is one of the reasons I have not watched it yet.

P T Anderson can be hit or miss for me. There's only been around three films that he directed that I loved. There Will Be Blood, Magnolia and Phantom Thread. The rest I either found just to be good or extremely bad
 
I found it mediocre and infantile.
Not particularly effective as a thriller, suspense or kinetic imagery is not PTA forte, as a social commentary it's absurd, filled with cartoonish representations and plays right into the caricature that is politics today. One side is dehumanized, portrayed as evil for the sake of it while the other side is vindicated, sure they might be terrorists, but they are quirky and fighting the bad guys. Even the shitty ass mom they try to redeem in the end.

Now if you want to see a cool movie about right wing evil extremists chewing scenery and some bad ass moments, you should check out Avenging Force

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This was supposed to be a sequel to Invasion USA, and a vehicle for Chuck Norris to fight nazis after he saved USA from commies. Instead we get an American Ninja reunion with Dudikoff and Steve James fighting a white supremacist paramilitary group that hunts people. Check it out, it's unbashedly fun and it does not try to play into the hands of the audience like One Battle.

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Oh my fucking god, I've been trying to remember what this movie was called. I used to watch it when I was little in the early 90s when it would come on HBO/Showtime, fucking bad-ass. Holy shit dude, THANK YOU!
 
P T Anderson can be hit or miss for me. There's only been around three films that he directed that I loved. There Will Be Blood, Magnolia and Phantom Thread. The rest I either found just to be good or extremely bad
The Master and Phantom Thread are the two PTA films that never really worked for me. Phantom Thread in particular feels wildly overrated. If you're looking for a romance between two people who are basically psychopaths and deeply entangled with one another, you're probably better off watching the Bonnie and Clyde film.
 
Didn't like this, the music's annoying as shit, a full hour of a cat walking on a piano. Characters are 1 dimensional and caricatures. The world it's trying to build doesn't make sense. Not sure what it's trying to say, but it feels like PTA overdosed on reddit and youtube comments. This is a 5/10, I even liked Licorice Pizza better that movie had heart at least. edit: I change my mind it's a 4/10, it is technically competent and Sean Penn is kind of funny, but there's nothing of value in this.
 
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This was a really excellent movie that I felt captured a lot of the feeling of being a millennial.

Extended spoiler-filled thoughts in reference to the topic discussion:
I don't see how someone could interpret it as pro-radical left. Perhaps pro-left if you take that to mean people who believe in equality and inclusion as ideals. However, when it comes to the radical side, they all completely failed. The group at the beginning was chaotic and achieved nothing but putting a target on their own backs. They spoke as large as a civil war but the most they ever did was cause a blackout which was then fixed. That is not changing society. It isn't even an effective threat. They were driven into hiding when one member ratted them out, but wait, how did they get into that situation? She was wild and tripped on power, so she tripped on using her sexuality on their enemy. However, he effortlessly tracked and infiltrated their activities and came into direct contact with her without any of them noticing. That is a total failure on their part. They were never going to succeed no matter how serious they ever ended up getting.

And that is exactly what we see. She sold people out and now a small handful of them are offed. This sends the rest into hiding for about decades wherein they accomplish so much nothing that the daughter of two of the originals thinks it is all fake and her dad is delusional. At this point their "movement" seems to be nothing more than a pirate radio station, which is absolutely comical in the era of podcasts. Yet their determination to continuing to associate with a criminal strand of their own ideals continues putting the target on them and they continue to fall. Leo has been screwing around so much he doesn't even remember their protocols, yet those who do remember their protocols are worn down from constant paranoia. This is discussed by the sisters at their fortified base, that they need young blood because they are too old and worn down from "the fight" and yet they have made zero progress for their notions. One small military team captures the whole base without a single shot fired. The film is clearly not pro-radicalization.

Yet it does support their care for one another, it shows good things happen when they look out for one another, not when they try fighting the government. After it makes fun of code-talk with Leo needing to prove himself over the phone (which I think is a jab at needing to know the perfect way to phrase everything in order to be accepted in left circles), the code-talk ends up being what his own daughter who hated that stuff relies on to recognize she is safe after her life in threatened due to old battles passing down to her generation. I thought that was a wonderful validation for why social coding exists while also offering a critique that falling too deep into that paranoid fear can make you blind to those who have a heart in unison with yours (referenced by the music devices), even to the level of becoming alien to your own family. This is the film showing an understanding that it is real problems that create these things, but the radicalization is a reactionary survival response rather than the stuff that actually helps the issues that caused the problems.

In this is where I think the heart of the film really rests. As a millennial, we have all experienced the results of systemic corruption leading to unpleasant outcomes. We may have been in a protest or two or at least had friends who did. Ranging from less to more extreme and less to more active, after decades of trying to change the world for the better, it is easy to feel like not much was fixed and fighting is pointless, to put more hope in the next generation than the idea that you'll ever be able to turn society around. Yet it is in the shift of perspective taking place within that sentiment, to look after the next generation and teach them how to look after others like that, those are the things that actually do effectively transform society over time. It may not be as exciting as one battle after another but it is also not as terrorizing. There aren't targets on your back, there aren't code words, there aren't fragmented relationships, what dissonance you have with societal systems isn't amplified in your every interaction with anyone.

So yeah, this film isn't pro-radical left. It feels more like someone who tried it, experienced the weaknesses, then saw what they truly wanted out of it in something a lot more stable and connected. It even seems to insinuate that even taking up that battle is what creates the radical right that it ends up fighting and dying alongside. Perhaps it is far better not to focus on whether your power fantasy is manifesting, but to see what good you are making when you get together with a dream of a better tomorrow and cultivate that. Leo's daughter is that good personified, and I think there is purpose in making the principle personified because the good will most often be the fruit of interpersonal connection. This point reminds me of the film The New World, which is also about how encounter between those foreign to one another, through love and conflict, transforms each while also making something new that exists whether or not either one wants to acknowledge that it is neither of them.

This is a brilliant, heartful, intelligent, and funny film that cuts through the hottest contention points in our society today with an approachable relaxed look of deeply piercing insight of wisdom. Very well paced, well stated, well shot, beautiful sound. Love it, love it, love it.

Editing in further thoughts looking at Lockjaw:
He is an image of social coding reaching extremism on the right. In the military you are taught to conform to expectations. This is your strength, survival, group success, and personal honor. It is similar in the far right, you must live up to rather specific socially coded expectations in order to be considered a good whatever-you-are. He longed for this more than anything. He wanted to be recognized as the prime specimen of what he thought himself to be and for others to see and honor that. And yet, in order to meet their expectations he is denying a fact about himself: He loves black women. He may not have a good understanding of what love is or how it is done but it is clear that he really dreamed about the ability to always return to Perfidia and love her and be loved by her. This was incompatible with the expectation of how to be the "proper" version of what he was and she could not accept being forced into the expectations he had about the "right way" to be her.

All of his battles are born out of this obsession with living up to what he is expected to be. At the end with his daughter, he is lecturing her how "Maybe things could have been different" if she had "better manners"… he said as he was dragging her away to her death after kidnapping her. Nonetheless, it is an intelligent peek into his mindset. He hoped against hope that even the "unacceptable" parts of himself and his life could be accepted if they would just fit the prescribed expectation well enough, if they had good manners and knew how to present themselves. Everything in his mind was translated through a nebulous sense of propriety. As though real bigotry doesn't exist, as though enemies are only enemies because they themselves fail to meet standards somehow and that justifies ending their existence. This is indeed the particular dynamic by which the radical right sees the world and makes violence against it. It is the standard of social expectations over everything, against the noncompliant parts of oneself, against anyone who dare exist as other-than.
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I wish more people reviewed movies like this.
 
Didn't like this, the music's annoying as shit, a full hour of a cat walking on a piano. Characters are 1 dimensional and caricatures. The world it's trying to build doesn't make sense. Not sure what it's trying to say, but it feels like PTA overdosed on reddit and youtube comments. This is a 5/10, I even liked Licorice Pizza better that movie had heart at least. edit: I change my mind it's a 4/10, it is technically competent and Sean Penn is kind of funny, but there's nothing of value in this.

Absolutely agree.

The best thing about the movie is the cinematography. Everything else is overrated. The trailer made the movie look like an exciting action movie with Leonardo Dicaprio chasing after his kid, but in reality his character was a doped up klutz who couldn't do anything right and had to be saved by diverse characters all of the time. All the other white characters were basically murderers or white supremacists.

Sean Penn played a fun character, but he was again a caricature starting with him getting a ridiculous hard on when he's confronted by a laughable black female revolutionary who's shouting leftist catch phrases in the middle of an attack on a deportation center.

Soundtrack was awful. That part of the soundtrack with the atonal piano notes seemed to just go on and on and on and on ... I was shocked to find out it was composed by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood.

The movie is well made and watchable, but when looking back on it my score was getting lower and lower because of the stupid plot, the ridiculous characters, the superficial political commentary, the awful soundtrack, the deceptive trailers, etc.
 
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It's so superficial I don't even think it counts as political. You can sell me a rebel/anti-establishment story easily, but here it's not making a case for anything, it just shows you stuff. It would be like writing an essay on the ethics of the looney tunes's road runner. There no emotional connection to any character or situation, why should I care about any of this.
 
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I've been meaning to catch this in theatres again with my wife and last night I noticed this was playing on a TV channel and put it on right when a couple of my favourite scenes from the movie were starting up. The one when the phone call starts, to dojo, to house, to apparents and then the Christmas group. So fucking great and rewatchable.
 
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I watched it my again last night. It opened up a bunch with a second viewing. I want to watch it a third time and take my time analyzing the compositions and shots a bit more.

It could be the best movie of 2025 for me.
 
Absolutely agree.

The best thing about the movie is the cinematography. Everything else is overrated. The trailer made the movie look like an exciting action movie with Leonardo Dicaprio chasing after his kid, but in reality his character was a doped up klutz who couldn't do anything right and had to be saved by diverse characters all of the time. All the other white characters were basically murderers or white supremacists.

Sean Penn played a fun character, but he was again a caricature starting with him getting a ridiculous hard on when he's confronted by a laughable black female revolutionary who's shouting leftist catch phrases in the middle of an attack on a deportation center.

Soundtrack was awful. That part of the soundtrack with the atonal piano notes seemed to just go on and on and on and on ... I was shocked to find out it was composed by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood.

The movie is well made and watchable, but when looking back on it my score was getting lower and lower because of the stupid plot, the ridiculous characters, the superficial political commentary, the awful soundtrack, the deceptive trailers, etc.
Regardless of the quality, were you really shocked that Jonny Greenwood did the soundtrack? It was very much the kind of thing I would have expected from him.
 
Saw it this weekend, I felt it was decent but the story was lackluster overall.

Bob is a pure cuck from beginning to end - but he does show resolve in finding "his" daughter
French75 ultimately all ended up being rats - no surprise there, they were a clown operation high on their own supply.
Perfidia is easily the worst person in the movie in my opinion. It's no surprise she's a pure narcisist, her mother/grandmother telling Bob how he's not good enough for her, she's in another tier etc probably helped define her over the years. She cheats on Bob, has the kid, never tells Bob it's not his, abandons them, narcs out the entire crew and then flees the country - then writes a letter which basically says "I wasn't as good as I thought, hopefully you can take up the mantle" ultimate selfishness, but maybe she doesn't really care about Willa as she knows the true father.
Willa decides - after reading the letter, after everything they went through - to continue down the protest path, Bob telling her that it's over 3 hours away to which she basically tells him to f off i'll be fine - essentially foreshadows that shes going to become radicalized herself. Maybe it was inevitable after what she went through, but talk about pissing on your get out of jail free card.
Bob of course does nothing and lays back in the couch like the pothead cuck he is.

The whole secret society angle was half-baked and literally only served to tie a way for Bob to rescue Willa, and for Lockjaw to get his comeuppance.

Acting, cinematography, pacing was good - just not a movie I'd ever be compelled to rewatch.
 
Perfidia is easily the worst person in the movie in my opinion. It's no surprise she's a pure narcisist
Jennifer Lawrence told Leo she loved and looked up to Perfidia and understood completely why she abandoned her baby, because the righteous revolutionary work was so much more important than raising her child.

 
Jennifer Lawrence told Leo she loved and looked up to Perfidia and understood completely why she abandoned her baby, because the righteous revolutionary work was so much more important than raising her child.


Jennifer Lawrence needs some spanish lessons

 
Jennifer Lawrence told Leo she loved and looked up to Perfidia and understood completely why she abandoned her baby, because the righteous revolutionary work was so much more important than raising her child.

Just one more reason people should never take any celebrity endorsement or cause seriously.
 
Finally watched this (for no particular reason) and I loved most of it. It's a fantastical depiction of misguided idiots and I found it very entertaining. But I could have done without the epilogue. The movie should have cut to black after Sean Penn get cremated.
 
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