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One Piece >Dragon Ball/Z
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Team Alucard
Banned
I liked it much, much better than both One Piece and DB.
Kenshin will forever be the one true god though.
Yeah even though i seen Z first, i enjoyed the original a lot more.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Where's the write-in? I wanna vote for Eyeshield 21.
Werewolf Jones
Member
That poll, man.
Nostalgia overdose
When people who haven't watched anime since like 2002 are allowed to vote and not post in the thread. It's all good.
Jawmuncher
Member
Had to look up who John Matrix was. I knew who he was after I searched, but I never actually knew the name.
I agree its like comparing Citizen Kane to a more modern movie. Dragon Ball was so influential to everything in its wake it hard to compare. But I do stand by my opinion that its very clear that Toriyama stopped having fun doing the series about 100 chapters in and you can really feel it as the series goes on.
They were all pretty generic tropes of characters even before Dragonball. Dragonball added a more "cartoony" environment, but all of those tropes have existed for quite a while in story telling. Dragonball is heavily inspired by Asian kung fu films and other Asian films
Dragonball is really fucking good and has a really well made art style and sold an immense amount. That's why its legendary.
I agree with this.
Codeacious
Banned
I prefer One Piece, but I never really got into Dragon Ball when I tried it. I think the reason is that I really, really like the setting/world of One Piece more- it plays more into familiar fantasy tropes for me, and having each arc take place on an island provides a great excuse to mix up the setting in interesting ways.
I'd never really lined this up, but it seems really obvious when you lay it out like that.
I'm interested to see the people saying DBZ explain exactly how it's better.
The dub being over 300 episodes behind Japan is probably a good reason
The dub being over 300 episodes behind Japan is probably a good reason
Marineford and Dress Rosa are both some of the best the series has to offer. In fact, Thriller Bark is one of the worst arcs in the series
everyone just loves Brooke
Well to be fair, One Piece can easily be nostalgic by this point lolThat poll, man.
Nostalgia overdose
The Omega Man
Member
The democratic republic of GAF has spoken, accept your defeat One Piece people
Solid Samus
Banned
I love both but it's One Piece
Yes. Hell yes.
EmCeeGramr
Member
One Piece is the only manga in history to ever outsell Dragon Ball. By a good amount.
Anyway, as incredibly iconic and memorable as Dragon Ball is (for all of Toriyama's faults as a plot writer, he's incredibly good at using art to create memorable images that stick with you and tell a story), I think One Piece does outdo it. It manages to maintain a perfect ratio of mysterious adventure and serious battling that DB really managed around, say, King Piccolo (aka right as the series was transitioning), but throughout its entirety, its characters and world are more fleshed out, Oda doesn't suffer from Toriyama's self-admitted laziness in forgetting things or just drawing wastelands at mid-day because anything else is too bothersome to draw, and the endless possibilities of Devil Fruits and the creative ways that Oda uses them makes combat scenarios way more interesting (Devil Fruits are pretty much junior versions of JoJo's Stands, but half as bizarre).
Dragon Ball may be a bigger cultural touchstone for a lot of good reasons, but One Piece is a far more complete and well crafted work, and I think the next generation (especially in Japan) is going to have a lot more reverence and recognition for it than Dragon Ball, for better or worse.
panama chief
Member
OP hasn't been the same since the end of water 7. Did it tug on my heart strings, make me laugh, and feel excited about the action more than DBZ? Yes.
A lot of nostalgia goggles in this thread.
I will say US DBZ dub >>>>>>>>>>>> OP dub
A lot of nostalgia goggles in this thread.
I will say US DBZ dub >>>>>>>>>>>> OP dub
i think i said it up there.
one piece manga's fight scenes are confusing, overdrawn and poorly paced. dragon ball's aren't. dragon ball doesn't focus on padded fight scenes with c/d-tier characters.
dragon ball is a better fighting manga.
one piece has sold more because there are far more volumes. if dragon ball had the amount of volumes that one piece had, it would handily obliterate it in sales.
i'm also pretty sure that the anime viewership ratings of one piece isn't close to what dragon ball/z's viewership was when it aired either.
We're just going to have to disagree on this because I cannot think of any remotely iconic characters that the DB cast would be based on.
Yup.
For one, pacing. For better or worse, DB always kept going forward. One Piece relies to heavily on formulaic island-to-island plot mechanics. Oda pretty much just parks the bus for a year or two and goes through the same old tropes of identifiying the relevant "new friend" type characters on the island, telling us their sob stories through excruciating long flashbacks, and continues to waste time with pages upon pages of reactionary responses from fodder characters interspersed over jumps between fights that haven't been exciting since before the timeskip - all the while slowly dripping the cool shit that we want to actually know about, i.e. like the actual overarching plot.
Personally, One Piece went into a sharp decline post time-skip. It's just gotten boring as hell for me at times. There's a great chapter here and there every now and then, but it's simply not that engaging. DB, for all the shit it gets, was almost always hype.
Hot Coldman
Banned
why is John Matrix in last
when did this place lose its FUCKING SOUL
when did this place lose its FUCKING SOUL
NHarmonic.
Member
Lol like DBZ can even compare with the best shonen ever.
And HxH? Nope.
One Piece is the true king.
And HxH? Nope.
One Piece is the true king.
Dragon ball /z is classic that raised the bar back in the 80s-90s it's got crazy rewatchability and somehow manage to age quite fine(it didn't become a hit in the US&UK unill it was 10 years old)
But no way is it even close to One piece levels of good nothing is ...except Hunter x Hunter not even yu yu hakusho or jojo or Fma is good enough to lick the bottom of those two's boots.
But no way is it even close to One piece levels of good nothing is ...except Hunter x Hunter not even yu yu hakusho or jojo or Fma is good enough to lick the bottom of those two's boots.
DBZ has had multiple timeskips compared to One Pieces 1
Dress Rosa is also incredible and invalidates your point
OP anime is strug right now though, but Dragonball and Z only managed 400 some episodes compared to One Pieces 670's.
Also, Z had the Buu saga which is infinitely worse then any One Piece arc
EmCeeGramr
Member
Dressrosa is the best arc in the entire series after Water 7/Enies Lobby.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
One Piece > Dragon Ball because of story and character development
Dragon Ball > One Piece because of Hype, Nostalgia, and it damn near created One Piece.
Why the fuck was this even made anyway?
These guys obviously love each other and want to fuse.
GOUFFY!!!
Except to fuse you have to have matching power levels....... so goku would have to power down
Dragon Ball > One Piece because of Hype, Nostalgia, and it damn near created One Piece.
Why the fuck was this even made anyway?
These guys obviously love each other and want to fuse.
GOUFFY!!!
Except to fuse you have to have matching power levels....... so goku would have to power down
A LOT
Werewolf Jones
Member
The original is Toriyama's creativity at its peak, an amazing adventure with great and different characters, creative fights that didn't rely on power levels (the Tenkaichi tourneys were awesome) and a lot of humor. Goku meeting his grandad brought me to tears.
Dressrosa terrible? Wot
Oh it's purely preferential.
OP is probably better purely because of the different ways the authors go about things.
This is a well known fact, but I'm talking about the cast in general. Which template character did those follow?
Poodlestrike
Banned
One Piece draws out everything 10x longer than it needs to be yet it is still a dumb shounen full of tropes. Anything can be "well crafted" if it has pacing as glacial as OP's. DB accomplishes an order of magnitude more things than OP in half the time. DB looks better and has much more memorable characters to boot. It says a lot when OP has sold much more than DB ever did yet it is nowhere near as iconic as DB worldwide.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
We need more cross over gifs up in here!!
Why does it ave that many episodes. I shouldn't have voted because I havent watched too many episodes of one peice to pick one or the other. The amount of episodes in the series has always been daunting to me. Dragon ball + Z is about 400 episodes which is a lot. One peice is like what 700 episodes? yeesh.
Hell i got tired of Dragon ball after the buu saga truthfully.
4 kids dub probably ruined the series for me.
Solid Samus
Banned
Who binged on DB/Z vs watching/reading them weekly?
It's sort of a clusterfuck right now but I've mostly enjoyed the ride since Fishman Island (which is basically the only arc I actively dislike) and this current arc in particular looks like it's going to have more of an impact on the world and storytelling than any of the ones before it.
For real, son. It started off kinda whack but built into something really special with some major implications for the future.
It's sort of a clusterfuck right now but I've mostly enjoyed the ride since Fishman Island (which is basically the only arc I actively dislike) and this current arc in particular looks like it's going to have more of an impact on the world and storytelling than any of the ones before it.
For real, son. It started off kinda whack but built into something really special with some major implications for the future.
generaldane
Banned
Don't see how this is controversial One Piece is indeed better in pretty much every aspect
CountBlack
Member
Love em both but..
One Piece has had way too many epic/great moments vs DBZ's
One Piece has had way too many epic/great moments vs DBZ's
superseohyun
Member
of course one piece is better. Dragon ball came from a age where shounen manga was not as sophisticated as it is now.
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