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I think it might be worst.
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One Piece >Dragon Ball/Z
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I think it might be worst.
There is a fan project called One Pace that edits the toei version and cuts out the filler as best as it can.
RobbieNick
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Look, I like DBZ. It's fun, mindless entertainment, but it's complete shit compared to One Piece. In One Piece, you learn and care about each of the crew members and is strongly focused on friendship and family. During the Arlong saga, when Luffy gave Nami his Straw Hat (his most prized possesion) to watch over so he can kick Arlong's ass, even after Nami betrayed them all to show how much he still trusted her, I teared up a bit.There is an emotional bond with these characters that doesn't exist in most anime.
DBZ is like Justice League if it only focused on Superman and everyone else barely got any screen time and no character development. Also, like a DC Comic, no one gives a shit if a character dies because you know they'll find a way to resurrect them anyway.
DBZ is like Justice League if it only focused on Superman and everyone else barely got any screen time and no character development. Also, like a DC Comic, no one gives a shit if a character dies because you know they'll find a way to resurrect them anyway.
Amen.
Also for the one looking for give OP a try the buy the manga, anime is Toei tier so just pass on it. Just watch the anime for battle you don't get in the manga, the show is fueled with semi-filler (like adding fight scene) and filler (things I don't understand...) but some OST are very good to be honest.
luxstellarum
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OP is better for me. DBZ has the whole nostalgia factor but I don't think I'd be able to watch/read it today.
I actually care about what happens to any of the muggi's & lord help me if Oda ever decides to kill one of them off.
I actually care about what happens to any of the muggi's & lord help me if Oda ever decides to kill one of them off.
+ Dressrosa has been amazing, have a feeling Luffy v Doffy will be something special.
You can check out One Pace. They cut and merge episodes together to increase the pace of the show.
Neoriceisgood
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This seems apt. Honestly OP is sorta unique in that it's one of the very few shonen series that doesn't make me feel guilty for loving side members on the main cast, because while luffy/zoro etc are always just a *tad* stronger .. every crew member is still important & unique all through the series.
One thing I didn't like in DBZ (and honestly most non-OP shonen that take inspiration from it) is that a lot of the side characters slowly lose relevance over time & any unique abilities they do have become so meaningless that 3-4 arcs in they don't matter.
(When villains started casually catching Krillin's destructo disk attack pretty much one of the only worthwhile moves that didn't belong to goku lost its purpose.)
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Not even close. BBZ anime is full of hype fuelled moments. OP is a snorefest.
Coupla things.
1. What do you base this on besides sales - which is hardly a good indicative - considering it's clear the shōnen genre contineus to take its cues predominately from DB?
2. Why does Japan even matter, as if that settles the argument,?
3. Buu Saga gave us Goku vs Vegeta, Vegeta self-sacrifice SSJ3, Gotenks, Vegito and Mystic Gohan - you are wrong. It shits all over boring arcs like FI.
Nemesis121
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It's not filler it's flashback hell, OP has 684 eps only 97fillers compared to Naruto probably at 270 plus fillers episodes, OP kills you with flashback some episodes have like 7mins of new material, so while it doesn't have a ton of filler eps it's very misleading with all the fucking flashback, also the biggest character changing arc was poorly fucking handle, Marineford Arc is pathetic in anime form..better off reading OP...
Skypiea and Thrillerbark arcs make every arc in DBZ look like academy award writing..
What's up with the hate for Thriller Bark arc? It's one of the best arcs in my opinion. Definitely one of the more One Piece-y in terms of adventure and comedy. This is the arc that gave us Nightmare Luffy, Zoro VS Ryūma, SHP VS Oars, Binks' Sake and BROOK! I'd go as far as to say it's my top 3 with Alabasta and Water 7.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Lol no. DBZ is the linch pin for manga like Naruto and one piece.
Only because one piece has more volumes. Volume vs. volume DBZ outsells one piece.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga
5.5 million per volume for DBZ vs. 4.5 million per volume.
Not in any universe that one piece can even come close to the amazing quality of HXH.
Only because one piece has more volumes. Volume vs. volume DBZ outsells one piece.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga
5.5 million per volume for DBZ vs. 4.5 million per volume.
Not in any universe that one piece can even come close to the amazing quality of HXH.
Nemesis121
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Thriller Bark came after Water7 IMO the best arc in the anime, and second best in the Manga, thriller comes after what made me love OP, the quality of writing skydived off of Skypiea into the East Blue...
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
sales do not determine quality.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
HXH, Toriko, World Trigger have more interesting world.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Wat
Also Jojo's is way longer than I thought.
Do you have difficulty reading? DBZ sells more per volume than one piece. It´s pretty funny how you cut the whole table so you disfigure the fact.
That´s a load of shit. DB influenced Naruto, and YYH influenced Bleach, and i am so glad for that. The last thing i want for Naruto and Bleach to be as average as one piece.
Not what I meant. Look at the authors.
WrenchNinja
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Cool it. He's weirded out about the credit.
When people say Water 7 arc I'm assuming they mean the 15 volume long Water 7 saga, which, in 139 amazing chapters, contained Long Ring Long Land AKA Silvery Foxy (fuck you, I loved this, Afro Luffy ftw), the actual Water 7 arc, Enies Lobbies arc and the post Ennies Lobbies arc which closed out with an epic showdown between Ace and Blackbeard.
In no way is it fair to expect that much from Thriller Bark arc which was the shortest at only only 5 volumes/48 chapters long. For what it did with those 48 chapters though, Thriller Bark is nothing short of amazing. The anime especially was gorgeous at the time. Hit all the right notes and had the best colour palette.
The Silver
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One Piece pre timeskip is definitely one of my favorite shounen, I hate to say it but it is indeed just straight up a better story than DBZ.
DBZ will always be the true classic though, yeah OP is a better quality story but I'll always love DBZ more.
I'll say I've been very bored of OP since the timeksip and I'm not sure why exactly, Luffy's about to fight Dofla and I should be hype as shit but I haven't even cared to read the latest chapter yet.
DBZ will always be the true classic though, yeah OP is a better quality story but I'll always love DBZ more.
I'll say I've been very bored of OP since the timeksip and I'm not sure why exactly, Luffy's about to fight Dofla and I should be hype as shit but I haven't even cared to read the latest chapter yet.
I think you're bored because we were promised epic New World adventures and instead got some slow-paced sob stories. First in FI, then in Punk Hazard, and now in Dressrosa. Obviously, there have been some amazing scenes here and there, but nothing that lives up to pre-timeskip. Even the fights are boring. When was the last time the Monster Trio really struggled? They haven't had truly amazing one v one fights since Ennies Lobbies. Zoro and Luffy had some great fights in Thriller Bark but Sanji not so much.
Since the timeskip they've pretty much just stomped the oppossition. Hopefully that's about to change now though. Luffy VS Doffy should be good.
because the build up is too long? I think Oda dedicates way too much time for mid level threats, Doflamingo who is a cool character but not a huge threat to the world like a yonko.
This seems to be a problem with Oda, dedicating year+ long arcs to characters who should be done with in a few months it was good with crocodile, but it sucked with the other shichibukai because it just drags too long.
Werewolf Jones
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Yes, this is 100% true but One Piece is still better than DBZ, funny how that works.
Yeah for sure, doesn't discredit One Piece's creative directions at times however.
Then i suppose Black Jack is even better than both since it sold even more than DBZ per Volume
I was never a supporter of the sold Units=Quality Theory, anything with enough Hype can sell a fuckton
You can try, but right now the Anime has severe Pacing Problems, so i think it would be better to switch there after a While, but you'd better ask someone whos following both, Anime and Manga for that though
Werewolf Jones
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I'm inclined to disagree on this. I'm by no means a sub purist, but the One Piece dub is simply inferior in every way.
I voted DB/Z. At one point I just wasn't interested in One Piece any more, while I really liked some arcs I never really liked the character design at all. While some OP arcs (of the ones I've seen) were really great and triggered some real emotions I got bored with it after a while.
WrenchNinja
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The Funimation dub is great.
Seriously. I think part of the problem is that some of the crew feel really underutilized ever since the timeskip. Personally, I think Sanji has been the one who has been affected the most from this. It's crazy how much weaker he seems compared to both Luffy and Zoro.
I feel like Dressrosa is a story arc that will read much better when it's been completed. The pacing for it has been absolutely terrible for a while now and its really hype killing.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
One Piece feels like the next generation Dragonball.
For their time, they're equal, but I think One Piece refines certain flaws that DB had, like relegating characters to the sideline or forgetting plot threads or disregarding its own canon several times. One Piece directly attacks these issues and tries to excel at making everyone matter, putting an emphasis on world building, and never going outside of pre-established norms set by the series (if you see a strong Marine in the beginning of the series, he's still strong later on - he doesn't get eclipsed by everyone else, I.E. Aokiji).
For their time, they're equal, but I think One Piece refines certain flaws that DB had, like relegating characters to the sideline or forgetting plot threads or disregarding its own canon several times. One Piece directly attacks these issues and tries to excel at making everyone matter, putting an emphasis on world building, and never going outside of pre-established norms set by the series (if you see a strong Marine in the beginning of the series, he's still strong later on - he doesn't get eclipsed by everyone else, I.E. Aokiji).
Or going even earlier. Crocodile and Mihawk are still regarded as strong, the latter stilll being our of Zoro's league and the former only being defeated by Luffy due to his weakness.
Nemesis121
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One piece is great at times, trash at other times.
DB/DBZ is a series that just went continually down on a slope.
One Piece has got into a really bad habit since its made the jump too from once the main characters got separate several years back, it it continually keeps making this problem. Every recent arc since then has lacked focus. Taking the current one, Several months back we went from the the main character and villain fighting. To jumping between bits and pieces from several of the other casts scene and scenes with some purely one arc character. All who had months of time off too, and now were back to the main fight. Where guess what, I can't recall what's happen to any of them. The arc has been terrible for this reason.
Then you have arcs like Skypiea. When I watched the show I seriously thought it was a filler arc till I found out later.
DBZ just continually went down. DB had the adventure aspect and went over to the straight fighting with Z. But atleast it kept focus.
DB/DBZ is a series that just went continually down on a slope.
One Piece has got into a really bad habit since its made the jump too from once the main characters got separate several years back, it it continually keeps making this problem. Every recent arc since then has lacked focus. Taking the current one, Several months back we went from the the main character and villain fighting. To jumping between bits and pieces from several of the other casts scene and scenes with some purely one arc character. All who had months of time off too, and now were back to the main fight. Where guess what, I can't recall what's happen to any of them. The arc has been terrible for this reason.
Then you have arcs like Skypiea. When I watched the show I seriously thought it was a filler arc till I found out later.
DBZ just continually went down. DB had the adventure aspect and went over to the straight fighting with Z. But atleast it kept focus.
bone_and_sinew
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Like arguing who's the tallest midget.
Seinen > shōnen
Seinen > shōnen
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