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Ongoing purge in North Korea

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Or carry a notebook. They never delete they guy taking notes.

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The fall of the DPRK will be intensely interesting....unfortunate that it'll probably come with a large loss of life but the fall has to happen eventually, right?
 
The fall of the DPRK will be intensely interesting....unfortunate that it'll probably come with a large loss of life but the fall has to happen eventually, right?

Well....no. but it's hugely interesting because it's the first time any part of the Kim family has ever been made directly and publically accountable for corruption and crimes against the state.
 
The fall of the DPRK will be intensely interesting....unfortunate that it'll probably come with a large loss of life but the fall has to happen eventually, right?
Unless they literally go bankrupt like the USSR, they're pretty much around forever. Having nuclear weapons also means they can't be replaced by force.
 
Unless they literally go bankrupt like the USSR, they're pretty much around forever. Having nuclear weapons also means they can't be replaced by force.

If they do lose control I wonder whos job it is to keep track of all those nukes? Commanders are probably going to be selling them before that though.
 
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's nephew in France lays low after Jang's execution

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Screengrab from DongA Ilbo showing North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's nephew, pictured here in France in August.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un’s nephew, who is now studying in France, has gone under the radar after the execution of Pyongyang’s No 2 man, reported South Korean media.

On December 14, two days after the high-profile purge of Kim Jong-un's uncle Jang Song-thaek, 19-year-old Kim Han-sol’s name had been removed from the post box in his dormitory at the prestigious Sciences-Po’s Le Havre campus, reported one of South Korea’s major dailies DongA Ilbo.

When a South Korean reporter visited Kim’s dormitory a day earlier, on December 13, his name had still been on the mailbox; the reporter also knocked on Kim’s room but it seemed deserted, said the paper.

Last Friday, the South Korean journalist who visited Kim’s dormitory was questioned by five French police officers after they were notified by students. They asked the reporter if he was from North Korea and verified his passport, residence permit and foreign press pass issued by Paris. Whenever an Asian person comes to campus and asks other students about Kim’s whereabouts, they call the police, the university told the daily.

Kim enrolled as a student at Sciences-Po this August and has since been caught on camera several times by South Korean journalists.

South Korean media speculated that the young man has been laying low for his safety, which was likely at greater risk following Jang’s execution.

The young man’s father Kim Jong-nam is the eldest son of ex-leader Kim Jong-il and the black sheep of North Korea’s ruling family, reportedly living in exile in China and Singapore.

Executed leader Jang Song-thaek and his wife had raised Kim Jong-nam and Jang had supported Kim’s life in exile.

Kim Jong-nam previously lived in Macau but moved after his younger half-brother Kim Jong-un came into power.

North Korea’s state-run paper Rodong Sinmun stated lately that “a person who can point a gun without hesitation to one’s flesh and blood is a true man of principle,” raising concerns over the safety of Kim Jong-nam and his son Han-sol.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/artic...m-jong-uns-nephew-france-lays-low-after-jangs
 
'Hundreds' of Jang's relatives sent to gulags by North Korean regime

After Kim Jong-un regime ordered the execution of his uncle, it is reported that hundreds of his relatives have now been sent to prison camps

Several hundred relatives of Jang Song-thaek, executed recently on charges of plotting to overthrow the North Korean state, have been rounded up and sent to political prison camps.

"It was not just his close relatives who were taken away, but distant members of his family too, like relatives of his father.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...es-sent-to-gulags-by-North-Korean-regime.html (WHOLE STORY)

Very gruesome situation for many individuals, they are gone.
 
how come nobody is doing anything about the concentration camps in NK? it's not like back in WW2 where people didn't know about that shit...
 
how come nobody is doing anything about the concentration camps in NK? it's not like back in WW2 where people didn't know about that shit...

People are afraid China will be upset. I say fuck what China thinks. They're just as guilty as NK for stopping us from taking action.
 
how come nobody is doing anything about the concentration camps in NK? it's not like back in WW2 where people didn't know about that shit...
I think the cruel truth is just that the western nations aren't as altruistic as they like to think they are.

Who knows if the deathcamps alone would have been enough to start a war with Nazi Germany.
 
I think the cruel truth is just that the western nations aren't as altruistic as they like to think they are.

Who knows if the deathcamps alone would have been enough to start a war with Nazi Germany.

The massacre of civilians was enough for United States in Yugoslavia.

But the thing is that with North Korea there is the question of Seoul and the number of expected civilian casualties if any military action is taken. Also China has a ruthless communist regime, we don't know what they might do because a strong united Korea is not in their interest.
 
The massacre of civilians was enough for United States in Yugoslavia.

But the thing is that with North Korea there is the question of Seoul and the number of expected civilian casualties if any military action is taken. Also China has a ruthless communist regime, we don't know what they might do because a strong united Korea is not in their interest.

On the contrary, China's not worried about a united Korea as much as the massive influx of North Korean refugees across the border. The status quo is much better than the alternative.
 
On the contrary, China's not worried about a united Korea as much as the massive influx of North Korean refugees across the border. The status quo is much better than the alternative.

The question of refugees is obviously the immediate concern but a united and democratic Korea would be a financial powerhouse in the area. It would be an unacceptable situation for China, having a pro-west neighbor with US military bases.

At the moment the international community can't do much but isolate the country financially and technologically. They need to be kept in the dark ages, because their psychotic regime has access to nuclear weapons and any advanced missile delivery systems in their hands is unthinkable.
 
Watch him just be cleaning out the die hard nationalists to ensure a peaceful unification a few years down the line. I mean, if it wasn't such a serious issue, I think people would understand the subtext of a war threat via fax machine. It was pretty well established during his ascension to supreme leader that Kim Jung-Un's decisions and stances were confined by the party and political environment around him, and that it wouldn't even be out of the question for him to be murdered/executed if he pushed for reunification. But cleaning house under the guise of a dictatorial monster? No ones going to do anything about that.

*crosses fingers* C'mooooooonnnnnnnn RODMAN!
 
Damn. You'd have to be pretty inhuman to make your own uncle disappear.

Read this on wiki a while back and was pretty shocked, Dzhugashvili was Stalin's son:

Dzhugashvili served as an artillery officer in the Red Army and was captured on 16 July 1941[6] in the early stages of the German invasion of USSR at the Battle of Smolensk. The Germans later offered to exchange Yakov for Friedrich Paulus, the German Field Marshal captured by the Soviets after the Battle of Stalingrad, but Stalin turned the offer down, allegedly saying, "I will not trade a Marshal for a Lieutenant."
 
The thing is he received his education in Switzerland but still decides to opt for petty tyranny so he play the role of a king and get the benefits that come with that (sex slaves, expensive cars and the power to kill civilians). Not that it surprises me, I remember his fellow students describing him as a anti-social person. Probably a total loser if he had to operate as a normal citizen but also the worst kind of traitor there is, because opening up the society would help the country in so many ways. Such a shame humans have this collective tendency to bow down to authority figures, it would please me greatly to see a revolution over there (sponsored or not) so that he, his wife and all the other scum would go down in flames.

Wouldn't Korean re-unification plunge South Korea into bankruptcy? Pretty sure the North is stuck in the 1950s. It would cost the South billions to bring it into the 21st century.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...y-drunk-when-ordering-executions-9022878.html

The North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was "very drunk" when he ordered the recent execution of two aides close to his uncle Jang Song-thaek, reports say.

According to the Japanese newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun, the pair questioned an order from the dictator to hand over control of a business to the military. Sources told the newspaper Kim was "upset" when they said they needed to check with "Director Jang" first.

So uh, the whole purge started because Kim was drunk and upset when someone asked if they should check with Jang first on an order. This whole thing sounds like something I expect from South Park.
 
The question of refugees is obviously the immediate concern but a united and democratic Korea would be a financial powerhouse in the area. It would be an unacceptable situation for China, having a pro-west neighbor with US military bases.

Actually, the reunification effort would cost South Korea even more than West Germany did when it reunited with the East. It would pretty much cripple S. Korea economically for the foreseeable future.
 
If Seoul didn't have thousands of pieces of artillery aimed at it, NK would've been invaded a LOOOOOONG time ago.

This.

NK's military is no joke either. Even if South Korea wasn't being held hostage, a force on force action would be nothing like Iraq. NK has been waiting for shit to pop off for decades.
 
how come nobody is doing anything about the concentration camps in NK? it's not like back in WW2 where people didn't know about that shit...

Nobody in the western world cares enough to potentially go to war with China for this. There is no benefit beyond what, altruism?
 
Nobody in the western world cares enough to potentially go to war with China for this. There is no benefit beyond what, altruism?

Its not even that. SK would be leveled before we could even get halfway there. Those bases in SK are placeholders. Everyone there knows they wouldn't do shit but evacuate if things ever hit the fan. China doesn't come into the equation until much, much later.
 
Is there a scenario where Seoul doesn't get levelled immediately if it's China that attacks first from the north (on their own)?
 
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