Evil Smurf King
Neo Member
Metal Gear V: The Phantom Pain... It drags for about an hour or two. I've been thinking about trying it again, but this opening, damn...
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Openings that you Hated in Games You Loved
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Suikoden is the king of this for me. It is a brilliant game, one of the best RPGs ever, but the first few hours are dog shit.
In the hospital? That’s one of the best sequences in videogame history.
In the hospital? That’s one of the best sequences in videogame history.
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notseqi
Member
I played it for three hours in total, am I through the rough stuff?
Arkam
Member
Yup! Everything before Valentine was near torture. It’s what keeps me from playing the game through again.
Evil Smurf King
Neo Member
Yeah, I think so... The rough stuff for me was the hospital initial part. The gameplay is awesome, the best in all series... I always loved the thrilling openings in MGS, but in this one... nah.
Evil Smurf King
Neo Member
I can see its merits, but I couldn't stand it at all... I dunno, but I was expecting something like the wackiness and the wow factor of the past MGSs.
Psos
Neo Member
Yeap, I agree, the same to me. W1's first location was boring unless the whole game is quite good. Of course, it is an old game and now I don't want to play it anymore, but a few years ago I enjoyed it.
Krappadizzle
Member
Alternate Start mod is the only way I'll start that game now. That intro was fine the first 2 times. But after that.....
Ceadeus
Gold Member
Exactly! The worst has to be on VR. I'm literally standing like a moron for minutes doing nothing. If someone were ever to knock at my door , watching me through the window, the person would see me, standing there , wondering if I'm being brainwashed by the weird headset on my head or something..
QuantumZebra
Member
Haha I love HL1, but I don't think I came anywhere close to replaying it from the beginning as much as I did Skyrim.
petran79
Banned
I would have loved that game if it werent for the opening!
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Kingdom Heart 2’s intro is such a slog.
DogofWar
Member
"Hey you... you're finally awake"
Skyrim and Fallout 3 + 4. While not bad openings per se, RPGs that make you want to replay the game a lot of times to try out different characters should not have that long unskippable intros!
I have a save in Fallout 4 just as you are about to exit the first vault (since you can change your character there as well) but you shouldn't have to do that. And it is not possible in Skyrim.
MGS5 was a good intro, the first time as well. It feels like a slog all the other times.
Kingdom Hearts - I replayed it earlier this year but oh my fucking God that intro is long, tedious and the story was never what I liked about that game. Not even as a kid.
Most slow intros should definitely be skippable if they find a save point in the endgame on the HD.
Skyrim and Fallout 3 + 4. While not bad openings per se, RPGs that make you want to replay the game a lot of times to try out different characters should not have that long unskippable intros!
I have a save in Fallout 4 just as you are about to exit the first vault (since you can change your character there as well) but you shouldn't have to do that. And it is not possible in Skyrim.
MGS5 was a good intro, the first time as well. It feels like a slog all the other times.
Kingdom Hearts - I replayed it earlier this year but oh my fucking God that intro is long, tedious and the story was never what I liked about that game. Not even as a kid.
Most slow intros should definitely be skippable if they find a save point in the endgame on the HD.
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intbal
Member
Came here to post that same thing.
That opening put me off of playing the game for a full year.
Glad I eventually returned to it, though. I prefer Witcher 2 to Witcher 3 by a significant margin.
So this thread should have been titled "openings that made you hate the entire game"
tassletine
Member
I gave up.
petran79
Banned
So this thread should have been titled "openings that made you hate the entire game"
No I was genuinely interested in playing the game back then, but that specific sequence made me put it on hold and after that did not bother for a long time. Add also the countless sequels that had began at that time, so there was even less interest to restart.
Same though I beat the spider boss at least. But after hearing that the quiz where you had to find the dots became even harder, I would have stopped anyway
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tassletine
Member
Most games. But recently Red Dead 2‘s intro was too long, but not actually bad. Same with Sekiro which was still teaching you things well into the game and was vague, overly verbose and had too many prompts, all at the same time. A Poor beginning that really marred the rest of the game.
Bulletstorm‘s demo and beginning isn’t good. Same with The Surge. Same with Days Gone. Generally any simple game that doesn’t get you straight into the action is pretty annoying.
Kids pick stuff up in no time and adults should have no problem reading control sheets. All this handholding, showing you how to play stuff is a waste of time and energy, both the developers and the players.
Bulletstorm‘s demo and beginning isn’t good. Same with The Surge. Same with Days Gone. Generally any simple game that doesn’t get you straight into the action is pretty annoying.
Kids pick stuff up in no time and adults should have no problem reading control sheets. All this handholding, showing you how to play stuff is a waste of time and energy, both the developers and the players.
OneBigPuss
Member
Days Gone.First hours were mediocre but after
i was hooked till the end.
first Nero chopper mission
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GreyHorace
Member
In terms of story and atmosphere, yeah The Witcher 2 has the third game beat.
But while I think The Witcher 3 has better gameplay, I actually enjoy the second game's combat more. At least there was a lot more emphasis on preparation before combat than in the third game.
ZippyTheOtter
Banned
Pretty much any RPG until you get a second character in your party. Its just boring.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Kingdom Hearts 2 is the only one that really stuck out in my memory, and I didn't even really hate it.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
Hmm maybe this? I went back and played through the game years later enjoyed it. But on my 1st attempt I had almost lost interest after escaping the 1st dungeon. Then I went to click off the map and I heard the classic "you must gather your party before venturing forth" in the narrator voice from BG1. Well that narrator is gone is BG2, I was trying to get used to the new narrator and then I saw that they hadn't even rerecorded all the lines using the new voiceover guy and was like..."uninstalling now bye"
lol hideous. Such extreme technical detail allows you to see true ugliness like never before.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
There's a reason I keep a save for every Bethesda RPG right before the exterior reveal where the pop-up allows you to change your character.
MeteorVII
Member
I totally understand why people hate the intro to Kingdom Hearts 2, but I’ve always loved it. It completely throws you through a loop and Twilight Town in general was awesome!
It gives off the same wonderful Disney charm of the first game in the very first 20 minutes.
It gives off the same wonderful Disney charm of the first game in the very first 20 minutes.
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Sidney Prescott
Unconfirmed Member
I agree with this. The concept of the opening is cool, but playing it is a total drag. Especially when you can't move properly and you are stumbling around.
King_Mandu
Banned
Mass Effect 3. The only part of that piece of shit I love is the multiplayer.
BusierDonkey
Member
Bethesda's Gamebryo games in general
Oblivion farting around in the sewers waiting for the moment you can finally "go there".
Skyrim farting around waiting for a cutscene to end, followed by farting around in some caves waiting for the moment you can finally "go there".
Fallout 3 farting around in Vault 101 waiting for the moment you can finally "go there".
Fallout 4 farting around in your house tripping scripted events then farting around in Vault 111 waiting for the moment when you can finally "go there".
It's not a big surprise one of the first mods made for these games is always a mod to skip the intro sections and just straight into the actual game.
Oblivion farting around in the sewers waiting for the moment you can finally "go there".
Skyrim farting around waiting for a cutscene to end, followed by farting around in some caves waiting for the moment you can finally "go there".
Fallout 3 farting around in Vault 101 waiting for the moment you can finally "go there".
Fallout 4 farting around in your house tripping scripted events then farting around in Vault 111 waiting for the moment when you can finally "go there".
It's not a big surprise one of the first mods made for these games is always a mod to skip the intro sections and just straight into the actual game.
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supernova8
Banned
Practically any JRPG that starts off with like 30 minutes of dialogue before even letting you play the game.
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
Ps1 Final Fantasy 7 until you leave Midgar. Climbing the wall out the slums, climbing Shinra hq, going into multiple reactors, linear, boring. Once you hit the free roam map the game turns into a 10/10.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Does this count?
Needing to grind through licenses in Gran Turismo games before you can enter key events?
Those PS1 days were the worst.
Needing to grind through licenses in Gran Turismo games before you can enter key events?
Those PS1 days were the worst.
eyesabitdull
Banned
Lmao, sorry for the super late reply, but the thread got necro'd and I just notice this reply.
But, to answer, I never said I didnt love every single cut scene in MGS4.
What I was saying, that in hindsight, and upon replay attempts, or even rewatching playthroughs, that it was reaaaaaalllyy amazing I never once bothered at how much control is taken away from you in the opening 2 hours.
You walk for 10 secs, and then you get a 5 minute cut scene, and then repeat.
As a young kid who was eager to play the sequel to my then favourite franchiss, o never noticed it.
But boy do I do notice it now.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
when first time playing it, I agree but it’s kind of pain in the ass when you want to re-play it.
Mistershine.
Banned
This. Very nearly dropped it because of the opening. In the end I put it on the easiest setting and enabled all of the assists so the game pretty much plays itself just to get it over and done with. The rest of the game is awesome though.
