Pretty much. Their existence or otherwise has insignificant relevance in modern governance. Their abolition should be so astoundingly low on a list of priorities that any loud movement is frankly insulting to actual issues and reform that matter like improving the lives of minorities and women, whom would still be at a disadvantage and considered unequal if Liz and Co were kicked out.
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Operation London Bridge - The plans for the death of Queen Elizabeth II
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Yeah, I mean no-one visits the Palace of Versailles or anything do they?
I think you give the allure of the Windsors too much credit. Bin them and hire some am-dram troupe to play dress up. Much cheaper.
CadetMahoney
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I bet you guys don't get anything off and will have to put up with traffic.
Yup. Also turn crown estates into council housing. We can start with Buckingham Palace. It's a bloody booring building anyway, so nothing lost.
God Dayumm
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Because of white supremacy
I'm sure there are a lot of things in the life of a monarch that are super weird from the perspective of us regular people.
As for how relevant etc they are, I'm fairly sure I've read they indirectly pay for themselves via tourism etc and there's no desire with the British public to get rid of them, so they're going to remain, and no harm to it.
What? That's one hell of a leap of logic.
God Dayumm
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Yes, please point me out all the non-white kings of the UK, or at least how can one become such
Have your dad be the first one to fuck the queen (officially).
For my own sanity I'm going to assume this post is satire
Lord Error
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I can pretty much guarantee you that the two things that first pop in the minds of people when they think about England (those who don't live there) are the Big Ben / Westminster and the Queen / Buckingham palace. Maybe by living there and experiencing a million other things in your life that have nothing to do with either, you don't have a clear perspective of just how persuasive this imagery is - but I think England has been cultivating it very carefully and successfully, that it would be foolish to abandon it.
PJV3
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I can sort of see the point as the monarchy was used by others to cement Protestant control. Not so much white supremacy as a non white monarch was never on the cards anyway.
Garrett Hawke
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I hope she sticks it out for a good while yet.
I'd change it to "Cockfosters".
Point out that last non Thai King of Thailand or non Japanese emperor of Japan.
God Dayumm
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Those are supremacists as well, just not white but equally repugnant. You are not going to see me defend those
What if London Bridge falls down, and that's what kills the Queen?
Reading this article left me rather depressed, especially with everything that's going on constitutionally in the UK right now. Is there even going to be a UK in five years time?
It's not. The institution of the monarchy is the source of white supremacy and most other systemic horrors that have plagued societies in the last couple of centuries.
However, they currently represent white supremacy on paper more than on practical terms – much like every other facet of the monarchy has also been reduced to a ceremonial role in lieu of any actual relevance to governance. White supremacy and systemic oppression is currently perpetuated by, well, everyday normal white people who benefit from privilege at the expense of non-white people, which makes the abolition of monarchy as a matter of "equality" all the more laughable and disconnected from reality.
I'm honestly wondering exactly what your problems are with the Emperor of Japan. I mean, Hirihito aside, hasn't it been primarily a ceremonial / religious role for hundreds of years?
Not a historian here, genuinely have no idea what most of them did.
lastplayed
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Don't worry, the crown has spent over a millennium defending itself, you don't need to.
Yup. This is a pretty good explanation of why they're financially beneficial to keep around.
I mean you could get rid of them, but it's basically throwing away free money and asking for higher taxes in the process.
God Dayumm
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If it is ceremonial, why doesn't he make a ceremony to crown the elected Prime Minister? Because of supremacy.
Of course. They defend themselves with your tax dollars and the riches they exploited abroad for centuries.
The elected prime minister would probably still be Japanese, though...? What does that solve in the supremacy front?
And the de facto ruler of Japan for the past thousand years have mostly been warlords who crowned themselves by force, or were the descendants of rulers who crowned themselves?
lastplayed
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The crown lent me money to study, so what goes around comes around I guess.
Ravensmash
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I like the Queen.
She's alright, she is.
Prince William comes across as a throughly decent guy too.
Yes, they are the epitome of privilege but privilege is not always inherently bad depending on what you do with it.
She's alright, she is.
Prince William comes across as a throughly decent guy too.
Yes, they are the epitome of privilege but privilege is not always inherently bad depending on what you do with it.
darkistheway
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I'm glad there's a plan. It's the only way to prevent total worldwide chaos.
I know it actually will be a big deal both emotionally (for many) and logistically
Versailles is far and away more impressive than anything we have here, even Windsor. Being in a much nicer, sunnier climate doesn't do it any harm either. Versailles is hundreds of times more impressive on its own than either Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle. It was a palace built as a symbol of grandeur and majesty, ramming home Louis XIV's prestige, power and apparent wealth.
Moreover Versailles isn't just a symbol of the grandeur but also a reminder of the violent revolution which arguably marked the beginning of the 'modern' period. Buckingham Palace isn't nearly as old and definitely doesn't have the same history.
Pancake Mix
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What?!
That is not why monarchies exist, in Europe or elsewhere I might add. If you believe there shouldn't be monarchies anymore that's one thing, but don't just spread nonsense for no reason. It's embarrassing.
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