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OPINE: Mass Effect was best on PS3

Your reasoning of "time matters" contradicts your conclusion, specifically because of when the first game was released, and the expectations surrounding it. I'd say that would have more impact than having a later game released alongside particular DLC.

Also, there were a noticeable number of technical hitches particular to the PS3 version. PC/360 versions are a better choice, I'd argue even in your retrospective line of thinking.
 
What a weird thread, as others have said, there's many others that have likely played ME1 on 360 and pc after beating ME2 and 3. Wouldn't their experience be the same and with much better performance.
 
Even though if you go by release dates, ME2 came first there...that's not something across the board everyone will experience. I know people on 360 that never played ME1 and got 2 when it came out, or that just didn't have a 360 at the time and likely had the same experience.

Though I disagree that the games work out of order anyway. ME1 just plays so much worse.
 
The title of the post is "Mass Effect was best on PS3" and yet your entire point is based around not being able to play the games in order?

Shouldn't the title have been, "Mass Effect was best played out of order"?
 
The title of the post is "Mass Effect was best on PS3" and yet your entire point is based around not being able to play the games in order?

Shouldn't the title have been, "Mass Effect was best played out of order"?

Pretty much this.
 
I am confused sorry, are you saying that mass effect was best on PS3 because I didn't have a 360 and therefore didn't enjoy it until it came out in full on PS3?

That's...I'm sorry I can't say anything more about that, but I think you should have made this a LTTP post instead.
 
The >1080p60 version is the best, imo!

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I mean, I can't go back and un-play the original before playing 2 in order to actually evaluate but...The first game was the most compelling by a landslide, so I have to feel that having all of the twists in it completely ruined by playing 2 first just makes it a whole lot less interesting to begin with. You found two mysterious and it made you want to learn more? Great. The first game did that too. It's not like 360 owners went in and had all of the answers about the series, we just had a lot more going into 2 than you did.

The last couple hours of ME1 are the absolute high point of the entire series, and you lost all of that on PS3 by skipping that game initially, so I'm just gonna disagree.
 
Hoping for a PS4/XBO remaster some day.

(I own all 3 on PC, but had to hack 1 and 2 to play with controller, and 3 never had even that option)
 
Well, you haven't truly suffered with the Maaco unless you've played it with keyboard/mouse controls. Lack of joypad support made the PC versions a bit of a bummer, so I am replaying on PS3, gradually. We'll see.

So yes, Mass Effect was best on PS3. Lets examine that statement a bit, shall we? Mass Effect WAS best, as in its not the best anymore. Its pretty much the worst on PS3 now (unless we are counting WiiU, but EA sure isn’t *rimshot*).

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Who's fool idea was it that someone would want to play on a platform with only chapter 3 available?
 

Sorry man, your post rambled a lot, the main points weren't addressed that well. You needed to step back and re-edit it. In my opinion, you should have just wanked this N7 day, it would have been a better commemoration.

I give you credit for trying man.
 
Even though if you go by release dates, ME2 came first there...that's not something across the board everyone will experience. I know people on 360 that never played ME1 and got 2 when it came out, or that just didn't have a 360 at the time and likely had the same experience.

Though I disagree that the games work out of order anyway. ME1 just plays so much worse.

As a general statement regarding playing the games out of order can be done on any other platform, yes this is true. But before ME1 was released at the end of 2013, playing it out of order was your only option on PS3. This is something unique to this platform, and characteristic of it. You could of just as easily picked up a $10 copy of ME1 with your launch copy of ME2 on 360. People chose not to, for their own reasons.

Also, I thought the combat was excellent in 1, like I said it reminded me of Dragon Age Origins, which was the first Bioware game on PS3 and originally came out after Mass Effect 1. The nostalgia from DAO fell right on to ME1, making the experience even more special.

The title of the post is "Mass Effect was best on PS3" and yet your entire point is based around not being able to play the games in order?

Shouldn't the title have been, "Mass Effect was best played out of order"?

Yeah but then no one would come in here telling me im wrong about frame rates and IQ lol

I am confused sorry, are you saying that mass effect was best on PS3 because I didn't have a 360 and therefore didn't enjoy it until it came out in full on PS3?

That's...I'm sorry I can't say anything more about that, but I think you should have made this a LTTP post instead.

No actually thats not what im saying. Its because the games were released out of order and totally screwed with the natural progression of expectations set by the series. There is no choice given in the matter. The act of experiencing art is art, and video games have millions of ways to be experienced. What I have presented is a specific experience with art that is fundamentally different than the norm, brought about by forces related to the art that are not a direct result of that art, ie marketing, release dates, availability. The experience of Mass Effect on PS3 only (2011-2013) is undoubtedly shared by thousands of people.

And its not a LTTP thread, I played the game over a year ago. Its less about ME1 and more about how taking a different approach to a series can lead to different results.

I mean, I can't go back and un-play the original before playing 2 in order to actually evaluate but...The first game was the most compelling by a landslide, so I have to feel that having all of the twists in it completely ruined by playing 2 first just makes it a whole lot less interesting to begin with. You found two mysterious and it made you want to learn more? Great. The first game did that too. It's not like 360 owners went in and had all of the answers about the series, we just had a lot more going into 2 than you did.

The last couple hours of ME1 are the absolute high point of the entire series, and you lost all of that on PS3 by skipping that game initially, so I'm just gonna disagree.

1&2 are very different starting points to the series. If you start with 2, you are a revived clone basically, with little knowledge of your past. Called it modern AAA design, but they expected 2 to be alot of peoples first ME game. You get the Kratos-style death and return of the hero, but all your powers and stuff are lost from before. Whether you agree or not, ME2 was more esoteric and intriguing to me because of my limited knowledge of the universe/events, like Shepard after Cerberus revives her.

Also trust me, nothing was lost by playing ME1 last, I loved every inch of that game and it made me appreciate the accomplishments of 2&3 more.

Sorry man, your post rambled a lot, the main points weren't addressed that well. You needed to step back and re-edit it. In my opinion, you should have just wanked this N7 day, it would have been a better commemoration.

I give you credit for trying man.

Thanks professor, glad to know I still get participation points
 
Also trust me, nothing was lost by playing ME1 last, I loved every inch of that game and it made me appreciate the accomplishments of 2&3 more.

Somebody who's only experienced playing Mass Effect 1 last simply cannot claim that nothing is lost as a result. How are you to know? You have no idea what playing ME1 first was like. Someone playing the original first would have likely had that heightened appreciation for the accomplishments in the sequels, because they already had the context that you didn't get until you later played ME1.

This isn't about if you still enjoyed it or not. You can't say for sure that you wouldn't have enjoyed it more before, when it was first released and was one of the most impressive experiences available on consoles.. If you can claim that nothing is lost in playing ME1 last, then the whole premise of your thread becomes invalid because you're then essentially claiming that the order of each game is unimportant.
 
Well OP that is your opinion. However it seems like a giant bible justifying your confusion with the later sequels, and revering ME1 as a holy experience because you finally got all pieces of the puzzle to fit in place.

I played the games in sequential order as they came out, great games indeed. However, I would've been damn confused starting at ME2. Best experience for me was playing them in order on the 360 because well that is the way trilogies are written to be experienced.

It's cool though you had like a biblical experience with these games and grew to love them.
 
And its not a LTTP thread, I played the game over a year ago. Its less about ME1 and more about how taking a different approach to a series can lead to different results.

Thanks professor, glad to know I still get participation points

Maybe you should have said this then. Halo MCC is a game that I imagine a lot of people will be doing similar things with as well.
 
Somebody who's only experienced playing Mass Effect 1 last simply cannot claim that nothing is lost as a result. How are you to know? You have no idea what playing ME1 first was like. Someone playing the original first would have likely had that heightened appreciation for the accomplishments in the sequels, because they already had the context that you didn't get until you later played ME1.

This isn't about if you still enjoyed it or not. You can't say for sure that you wouldn't have enjoyed it more before, when it was first released and was one of the most impressive experiences available on consoles.. If you can claim that nothing is lost in playing ME1 last, then the whole premise of your thread becomes invalid because you're then essentially claiming that the order Is unimportant

Nothing lost doesnt mean nothing gained. As a counter-point, someone who played the first game first cant say that something is lost by not playing it first. You dont know what Its like to walk in to the sequel blind. I was "lost" I suppose, but as I said the game and narrative was built to accomodate people that never played the first. Shepard has amnesia and people need to explain basic plot elements to her because she doesnt know them. Its a familiar trope, you can find it in many places.
 
Absolutely not. Technically it was the worst performer. Not to mention PS3 players couldn't even play ME1 and have their save carry over until years later.
 
Nothing lost doesnt mean nothing gained. As a counter-point, someone who played the first game first cant say that something is lost by not playing it last. You dont know what Its like to walk in to the sequel blind. I was "lost" I suppose, but as I said the game and narrative was built to accomodate people that never played the first. Shepard has amnesia and people need to explain basic plot elements to her because she doesnt know them. Its a familiar trope, you can find it in many places.

Yea, but if something is gained by playing it last, then that says something is lost by us playing it first. Now, I'm not going to claim that definitely isn't the case for the same reason (I've never experienced playing it last). Your entire thread premise is based around what you've gained by playing it last. I (and others) have detailed things we gained by playing it first. You can't claim to have not lost these things, because you haven't experienced them the same way.

What we're really arguing here is if the things you believe you gained playing it last outweigh the things we believe we gained by playing it first. Not many of us believe it does, simply due to our recollections of just how fucking awesome the universe of Mass Effect seemed at the time of the original game's release, before the sequels scaled back some of those ideas into the realm of feasibility. Had we played the sequels before, we never would have viewed these aspects in the same way. When you get a description of the Reapers, someone that's already played ME2 can picture the huge Terminator knockoff. Someone who hasn't played ME2 is probably thinking more along the lines of "god in machine form".
 
The fact that i could hotkey a lot more powers on PC than on consoles makes me disagree

Being able to use all my powers + those of my teammates as well as issuing orders without pausing makes the games much more fun to play, especially since i mostly played caster classes.
 
1&2 are very different starting points to the series. If you start with 2, you are a revived clone basically, with little knowledge of your past. Called it modern AAA design, but they expected 2 to be alot of peoples first ME game. You get the Kratos-style death and return of the hero, but all your powers and stuff are lost from before. Whether you agree or not, ME2 was more esoteric and intriguing to me because of my limited knowledge of the universe/events, like Shepard after Cerberus revives her.

That's not true at all though, the sense of 'wtf is going on' in regards to the period of lost memory shep has is present REGARDLESS of whether you played one first or not, that's very different from knowing what happened in 1 prior to playing it.

Playing the first game and then playing the second we still had no idea what happened during those two years, the narrative of 2 does not assume that you have no idea of the plot of the first game, however. In fact, it operates very strongly assuming that you know what is going on in the overall story. You can 'appreciate' the end sections of ME1 in hindsight all you like, but at the end of the day the reveals of the Reapers, the Protheans and the cyclical nature of what was happening were completely out of the blue if you went into the first game blind. None of that is preserved if you play it later, none of it. It was actually a mind-blowingly well thought out twist at the time, and while I have no doubt that the game from Ilos and the Citadel remained extremely intense and exciting, the sense of being overwhelmed by the exposition that accompanies it has no chance to be there.

tldr: Everything we 'didn't know in ME1 that was meant to be a surprise, was a mind blowing surprise if you play it first. This is not preserved if you play 2 and 3 first. Flipside - everything you didn't know in ME2 when you start the game up? That same shit is totally unknown to ME1 players as well since it's all about a gap in Shep's memory.
 
I had a similar experience to you OP, I kind of see where you are coming from. I played and loved ME2 but as a PS owner only I had resigned myself to never being able to play the first one. Hence when it arrived it was like discovering a long lost opening chapter of a beloved book.

(No one is saying it is in anyway technically better on PS3 of course - I have seen watercolours completed quicker that it took that game's textures to draw in.)
 
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