Even the opposite it's true, though. I see many posters saying "I bought a WiiU at launch for Nintendo games", as if "Nintendo" was their favorite genre. Both fans and haters treat Nintendo as a indistinct block, or at least they talk about it that way. I also see people saying "I got a PS4 for Sony exclusives", without mentioning specific games.
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OPINION: Wii U, best console to own in 2014, easily
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Even the opposite it's true, though. I see many posters saying "I bought a WiiU at launch for Nintendo games", as if "Nintendo" was their favorite genre. Both fans and haters treat Nintendo as a indistinct block, or at least they talk about it that way. I also see people saying "I got a PS4 for Sony exclusives", without mentioning specific games.
I dont mean game announcements, i mean mentioned in the way that star fox was mentioned or in the way that zelda had been previously.
Also, zelda was likely announced about a year and a half early.
I would be more than happy for Nintendo to surprise me at e3 again though.
flatearthpandas
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Why? 3DWorld was announced six months before release, and that is not that uncommon with Nintendo.
Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, and Metroid have all seen releases on every home console since the GCN, so I don't think it is unreasonable to consider them as candidates coming to the Wii U, especially with Fire Emblem's new resurgence.
But can you predict them like that? Just look at the 2015 lineup. New series like Splatoon and Mario Maker next to more niche series like Xenoblade and StarFox. For example Retro has been working on something for a year now. Next Level Games on the other hand has two teams and haven't released a game in 1.5 years. So there's some serious potential right there not to mention countless others teams that could easily make a game we don't know of in two years.
Has StarFox been slated for 2015? I haven't been paying much attention.
I own one. I don't like Mario, already have Wind Waker, didn't like W101 or Sonic Lost World, and have no interest in Pikmin, Bayonetta, and Zombie U. That leaves...?
I love my Wii U and it gets so much love from me. Loved that they added folder recently, and just like Vita and 3DS folders, they have awoken the collector in me and I started buying up more VC games. I'm strictly All-Digital on all my platforms so it's nice to have everything completely organized as well as it is now with the color coded folders. My consoles are all basically exclusive machines since I also own a PC, and my Wii U is basically my favorite of all my exclusive machines just because it always has me coming back for more, and having grown up with Nintendo games I still have a place in my heart for them and think they are always some of the most top class games released in this day and age. Kirby Triple Deluxe and DK:TF are still very much in the running for my overall Game of the Year so far (I'm pretty sure I like Kirby Triple Deluxe much more at this point, though that is on 3DS). Really love the controller too since it has such a long battery life. (I really wish they would fix the huge issues with the DS4, til then Pro Controller is my PC controller haha). But 2014 alone has been amazing in terms of Wii U for me since I just got the console this year as a gift in April, and have been playing the hell out of it since. Plus we still got Mayonetta, Smash U and Captain Kinopio coming this year, let alone 2015 having the Game of Forever Kirby Rainbow Curse. Many probably can't get by on just Nintendo games, but considering I have a PC for any of the multiplat games, Wii U is just such a perfect choice and gives me experiences that I can't really get anywhere else.
Then sell it?
Then sell it?
That's what Miyamoto said back at E3.
The only game that seems like it will be out in 2016 - that we know of - is Pokken Tournament. The game's development was reportedly 30% complete for the Japanese arcade as of early September. I imagine we'll get a confirmation of a Wii U version some time next year by a Nintendo Direct or at E3. We're still also waiting for news on Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei ,a game that was announced prematurely back in January 2013 in name only. Last we heard, as of June, that title was still on development track according to Nintendo's Hitoshi Yamagami.
Devil's Third release date is also TBA. Those and let's say one 2015 title gets delayed to 2016 and we have a solid 1st party lineup when we also take in account the games we don't know of.
RobFox64tm
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Except the difference between the two factions is one actually plays many of the games before formulating an opinion, and the other generally doesn't even give them a chance after only playing a small handful of titles. There are zealots out there who will either play or not play any game based solely on who makes it; no argument there, but I think it's more likely those who do actually like what they're playing. Those that don't can't really say for sure because they've already labelled certain games without giving them a proper shake.
This is one of the reasons I haven't bit on a Wii U yet. Not everything Nintendo makes appeals to me and I don't want to get one for one game (SSB) only to have remorse like I did with the Wii and Brawl. I'm hoping retailers have some crazy deals for winter or I'll pass on Wii u for another year.
Oh, that's true. I forgot about Devil's Third. I guess we'll find out by next E3.
When you say you don't like Mario, does that mean platforming Mario, or anything the Mario is in?
What about Mario Kart? Tropical Freeze? Hyrule Warriors? Captain Toad? Xenoblade? Splatoon? Smash Wii U? I'm not sure what genre you're looking for, but all of those are different, and are (or likely to be) quality games.
Also, don't know if you're just trolling or not, so please excuse my genuine answer if you are...
Dat Mario genre, almost as funny as the Nintendo genre
Chill brah, I think you might be taking this a bit too seriously. People have different tastes, if others want to say that they think Wii U has the best library, that's THEIR opinion. You seem to worry so much about others opinions and proving them wrong or something with metacritic scores. If you don't enjoy Nintendo games, then don't, but don't go telling others who do enjoy it that you think they are crap and post review scores or something like they are the end all, be all status of a game.
Why would I be trolling?
Don't like platformers much in general anymore, but I also just don't like the characters or universe. Mario himself is such a bland character IMO.
Mario Kart - Love it, bought a Wii U for it. The gameplay is fun enough that I can look past it being part of a series I don't care for.
DK - I already played DKCR. TF looks like the same thing. Not really interested.
Hyrule Warriors - Story is the most juvenile shit I've seen in a while. Hate the art style. Pass.
Captain Toad - Toad creeps me out. Pass.
Xenoblade - This is at least a year away. One of the few games I'm interested in.
Splatoon - Neutral. I'd only play if a bunch of friends get it.
Smash U - Torn on this. Had it in mind when I got my Wii U, but I also know for a fact that my college rec room will have it at launch.
Not looking for any particular genre, I just don't care for bright colorful cartoony mascot games under most circumstances, with a few exceptions. That rules out most of Nintendo's output for me.
lol? Sorry? Am I not allowed to have an opinion on a franchise now because it has spin-offs?
When did I say that?
What exactly is mocking the term "Mario genre" supposed to imply?
I feel like nintendo announces some games very shortly before release (mario) and some a long time before release (smash bros, zelda, and i want to say metroid but i feel like i might be wrong about that one with metroid prime 3; i wouldnt count metroid prime 2 because relatively quick sequel or other m because 3rd party)
But yeah the possible quick surprise release is the reason i mentioned mario galaxy 3 as i feel that would be a good candidate for that type of release
Also they had already announced that one fire emblem game so maybe that will release finally but i dont think they would get a new one together if that was canceled
As for metroid, part of me just really hopes they will save it for a launch game on a new system at this point.
Sorry but i have no thoughts on animal crossing.
You've missed what I was getting at spectacularly
Hint: I don't see any value in using Gamerankings to validate or invalidate personal tastes.
I don't think I was mocking it? Mario makes up alot of genres and there is just no one game called "Mario". It's like when Nintendo fans say they only like Nintendo games as if it's all just one genre, when there are many different games and genres that make it up. Also not everyone is mocking or attacking you dude
You've missed what I was getting at spectacularly
Hint: I don't see any value in using Gamerankings to validate or invalidate personal tastes.
lol I probably did, I didn't check the last pages either, just saw that first post on this page so my bad on that. Just crazy to see everytime I walk into a Nintendo topic everyone is always arguing about how great the library is or isn't, but different people are gonna like different games so it's always weird to see so much arguing about it.
Papacheeks
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The arguing comes from people who disagree with peoples taste in games. The people who love or enjoy Nintendo's output, ridicule those who give reasons why they don't.
Those people don't want to be labeled as a fanboy as someone earlier mentioned, so they write giant paragraphs of information from bullshit sources or their own personal opinion to validate their argument against someone's taste.
Like other's on here, me included are interested in some of the games, but not all, which is why people say that an investment to a Wii U may not be worth while for them.
Which I agree with, people are going to like what they like.
TheSpaceBetween
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Dude, 2016 will most likely be STACKED with Wii U games. If we're honest with ourselves, Star Fox will probably be 2016. EAD Tokyo, as you said, will be their with Galaxy 3 or whatever the next Mario is. Retro will probably be there holiday 2016. Next Level will be due either late next year or into 2016. Intelligent Systems could possibly have something as well... They're working on that 3DS game, but usually do two projects at once... Paper Mario Wii U possibly? Zelda could slip into 2016, etc etc etc. We will start to know about 2016 next E3 for sure.
"I don't like Mario"
"Dat Mario genre"
Not really sure how else I'm supposed to interpret that, man.
Hmm now that you bring it up, we should be seeing Next Level's next game hopefully soon, and I'm super excited for it. Luigi's Mansion 2 has been out for over a year and half now, so they've had to have been working on something recently. I have my fingers crossed for a Punch-Out Wii U, what they did with Punch-Out on the Wii was great and I feel they should move Punch-Out into HD territory, the last games cel-shaded look would be perfect for it.
I was replaying to someone else and I meant it in general? It's not just you that does that lol. You named off all the other games, but Mario was just "Mario" when there are like 4 Mario games (there is probably more isn't there -____-) I didn't mean it as some insult or mockery or anything, just pointing out that Mario makes up alot of games more than just Mario, just like when people say they like "Nintendo" games and everyone is all confused cause that's alot of games and different genres and is very broad.
Wii Party U
Wii Fit U
Wii Sports Club
Tank! Tank! Tank!
Hyrule Warriors
Lego City Undercover
etc etc
I appreciate that you didn't mean to be insulting about it, but you're still asserting basically the same thing. If you don't like the characters, art style, or universe, what difference does it really make that there's a bunch of different spin-offs?
AntiFacebook
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Yeah, I enjoy the wiiu because I also have a gaming PC.
No way I would have enjoyed it as much if it was my only system.
And vice versa for myself. I really like my gaming tower and my Wii U, but I couldn't go with only one or the other.
Unlike my Vita and 3DS situation where the former is in a mighty sad place.
The same reason you buy any new IP, new and different gameplay. Which is why "Nintendo"fans laugh whenever someone labels all games Nintendo games during a dismissal, when usually their tastes are perfectly served by those generalized assumptions.
Herpes Reasons
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Vita is fine as long as you don't expect much Western Support. My Vita is packed with tons of great games and I don't think it's sad at all. Danganronpa, Gravity Rush and Tearaway were some legit good experiences. And I agree I don't think I would be able to just last with just a PC or just a Wii U, I would be missing too much stuff that I would enjoy on both sides.
But it's not the same reason I'd buy any new IP at all, because for me to do that the actual IP itself would have to appeal to me. There's a lot more to a game than its mechanics.
-COOLIO-
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the wii u is objectively probably the best 2nd console purchase if you're into nintendo and platinum games, but probably also the worst 1st console purchase. living on just xbo, ps4, or pc is incredibly easy with the large swath of cross platform, high profile releases.
i generally wouldnt advocate for a 2nd console purchase this gen just because the 3rd party output alone on everything expect the wii u is so healthy.
i generally wouldnt advocate for a 2nd console purchase this gen just because the 3rd party output alone on everything expect the wii u is so healthy.
But again you're only weighing aesthetics as if that's what makes a game, where as it seems "Nintendo" fans, while wanting more, will tolerate a Mario aesthetic if it's tied to great gameplay.
And if the game looks good but is the same rote shit gameplay, you're encouraging the same type of behavior some hold against Nintendo, but arguably worse.
SmokedMeat
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I don't think I've ever seen someone recommend Tank!Tank!Tank! lol
I got it free thanks to Best Buy's @Gamer coupons a long while back. Typical fun but shallow arcade port. Not something I'd suggest to someone though.
Wait, what? Nintendo fans don't like Mario but tolerate the aesthetic for the gameplay? Come on, dude.
And sure, if a good looking game has shit gameplay it'll probably suck. That's why I look for both.
Mario games don't all have the same gameplay though, especially not on the spectrum that AAA games emulate and take from each other. MK is not 3d world, which isn't Mario and Luigi, which isn't Luigi's mansion, which isn't Mario vs Dk, and so on. The similarities between Batman, Mordor, AC and others is what helps them sell, but all it's doing is adding to the homogeneous inevitability that is the game industry.
People keep listing Mario Maker as something to be excited about... and I just don't see it. I don't have faith in Nintendo that they can pull something off to the level of say LBP (not entirely comparable, but same gist), both from a network level and just an ease of use design-wise level.
What I'm expecting? Brawl's stage builder redone and enhanced for Mario levels. My expectation for this is about on par with NES Remix, something kinda cool, but a big bungled in execution.
Time will tell though.
What I'm expecting? Brawl's stage builder redone and enhanced for Mario levels. My expectation for this is about on par with NES Remix, something kinda cool, but a big bungled in execution.
Time will tell though.
The irony in insisting that Mario is too broad for a label and lumping together AAA games to make a point in a single post is a bit silly IMO.
Well one difference to NES Remix is that it will be a retail release from the beginning. Full priced too if I'm remembering correctly. I'm looking forward to seeing what Nintendo does to making creating levels feels like a game itself if that makes sense.
It's almost like the point is that Nintendo games aren't aren't all the same, while entirely different publishing companies push out the same stuff.
There is currently a front page thread about Ubisoft's factory like productions. EA has been putting out the same games for years, and they account for probably half of all sales. So where is this diversity? At wb, the batman Lego house? Or oActivision, the iteration ground zero.
This is the first I'm hearing about a price confirmation. That wasn't really my point though, just that it was a cool concept that ended up being held back.
Honestly, I don't see Nintendo providing a great level-building and sharing tool, if only because they're in the business of selling future Mario games.
I guess I don't even want to see a great level-building and sharing tool. I want to see a great game. I want to see what Nintendo does in that area (exploring making levels as a game itself).