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[meppi]

Just one game?

Akiba's Trip: Undead and Undressed (PS4)
CoD AW
Assassins Creed Unity
The Crew
The Wolf Among Us
Halo MCC (X1)
Lego Batman 3
Dragon Age Inquisition
Far Cry 4
GTA V
Little Big Planet 3 (PS4)
Monopoly Family Fun Pack
WWE 2K15
Plus a few others...

Well to be fair, from that list, the only games that somewhat interest me are LBP3 and maybe even GTA5.
But neither game I'll pick up day one. Will wait till they are half price or less actually.
So that release schedule for November is a bit shit for me.

Freedom Wars just missed November by one day otherwise that would be on there and I certainly will be picking up Samurai Warriors 4 on PS4.
But even this one were to come out on Wii U, I wouldn't pick it up on there since the PS4 version is bound to be superior. Same reason why I wouldn't pick it up on 360/PS3 either.

Oh and I'll probably pick up Pokémon and NES remix on 3DS. Maybe Tales of Hearts R on Vita in November as well.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

In a market that is completely saturated with realistic shooters? Yes, it needs a new aesthetic.

In your opinion. Going by the numbers, most gamers don't share that opinion. They seem to be happy with gaming right now as it is. I know I am - because I know there's more than enough room for both God of War and Mario Kart.

I am happy both exist. It seems some of the more devoted Nintendo fans are not. Oh well. It's not likely to change to their version of Nintopia.

 

[Ansatz]

In your opinion. Going by the numbers, most gamers don't share that opinion. They seem to be happy with gaming right now as it is. I know I am - because I know there's more than enough room for both God of War and Mario Kart.

I am happy both exist. It seems some of the more devoted Nintendo fans are not. Oh well. It's not likely to change to their version of Nintopia.

Gamers don't know what they want. Generally when asked about their dream game it's derivative, the theme is always take this existing game, but make it better, bigger, more.

But when the market is presented with brand new ideas, sometimes they flop but this is the only way to discover something you didn't even knew you wanted. I'm refering to stuff like Wii Sports, Minecraft, Portal. It's how new genres were born, by providing an entirely different way of looking at video games nobody asked for. It's how we got to where we are today, but why stop now and not continue to pitch concepts that sound bizarre at first glance.

The gaming community should applaud Nintendo for being different instead of saying lol, good luck getting the CoD and Gears audience with Splatoon. Implying they should instead develop a product equivalent i.e. a copy to what's selling currently.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

Gamers don't know what they want. Generally when asked about their dream game it's derivative, the theme is always take this existing game, but make it better, bigger, more.

But when the market is presented with brand new ideas, sometimes they flop but this is the only way to discover something you didn't even knew you wanted. I'm refering to stuff like Wii Sports, Minecraft, Portal. It's how new genres were born, by providing an entirely different way of looking at video games nobody asked for. It's how we got to where we are today, but why stop now and not continue to pitch concepts that sound bizarre at first glance.

The gaming community should applaud Nintendo for being different instead of saying lol, good luck getting the CoD and Gears audience with Splatoon. Implying they should instead develop a product equivalent i.e. a copy to what's selling currently.

How is it different? Marios, Zeldas, Mario Karts, etc. The Wii U isn't different as the PS4 uses the Vita and better than the gamepad, I may add. The Wii U's severely limited in how far the controller can be from the console and still connect. And no, being different shouldn't be applauded just for being different. Different should be applauded if it actually brings something to the table. And the general public has loudly told Nintendo it doesn't care about the Wii U which is quite different than it's response to the Wii. THAT was different.

 

[LOCK]

As a person who loves the hobby, I am biased towards Nintendo only because I associate more with their games. But I play dozens of games a year that are not made by Nintendo. Many times the best games released are not from Nintendo or on their hardware in any given year.

However, I do get annoyed when Nintendo is giving their best and generally ignored. Almost all entries in their titles released so far are among the best games in their series, if not some of the best games in general. That's why the Wii U is the current best system to own. Will that remain? Probably not, but 2015 is going to be really amazing.

 

[Seik]

How is it different? Marios, Zeldas, Mario Karts, etc. The Wii U isn't different as the PS4 uses the Vita and better than the gamepad, I may add. The Wii U's severely limited in how far the controller can be from the console and still connect. And no, being different shouldn't be applauded just for being different. Different should be applauded if it actually brings something to the table. And the general public has loudly told Nintendo it doesn't care about the Wii U which is quite different than it's response to the Wii. THAT was different.

The slight delay alone makes the Gamepad -> Wii U thing way better than PS4 -> Vita.

Don't get me wrong though, I love playing Destiny and other games on my Vita, but saying it's better than what the Wii U's offscreen isn't true. It's performs way better, in my specific case, the Gamepad has even less delay than my TV itself.

 

[StevieP]

How is it different? Marios, Zeldas, Mario Karts, etc. The Wii U isn't different as the PS4 uses the Vita and better than the gamepad, I may add.

This is how I know you don't actually own a Wii u.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

This is how I know you don't actually own a Wii u.

I own a Wii U, and I agree with HR's sentiment. The Wii U gamepad play is neat, but I much prefer the Vita. When I'm at home, I want to play on the TV, with only the rarest of exceptions. The Vita is "better" in that it allows me to actually game on the go.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

This is how I know you don't actually own a Wii u.

You were saying?

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[StevieP]

I own a Wii U, and I agree with HR's sentiment. The Wii U gamepad play is neat, but I much prefer the Vita. When I'm at home, I want to play on the TV, with only the rarest of exceptions. The Vita is "better" in that it allows me to actually game on the go.

Different strokes for different folks.

You were saying?

Having used both, I can't see any which way macro blocking, increased latency (by a long shot) and lower framerates are better for, you know, playing games.

Different strokes is one thing (and why this thread has stirred controversy) but what herpes is accusing others of doing (blind defence of a corporate entity) is exactly how you'd justify a miracast stream on its own wifi frequency being objectively inferior to what the vita does. And that's not knocking the vita either, because they did the best they could with what they had. But it isn't in the same stratosphere when it comes to having a second screen. And it's strength (taking it out of the house, which is damn cool) actually adds to the above weaknesses.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

Having used both, I can't see any which way macro blocking, increased latency (by a long shot) and lower framerates are better for, you know, playing games.

Different strokes is one thing (and why this thread has stirred controversy) but what herpes is accusing others of doing (blind defence of a corporate entity) is exactly how you'd justify a miracast stream on its own wifi frequency being objectively inferior to what the vita does. And that's not knocking the vita either, because they did the best they could with what they had. But it isn't in the same stratosphere when it comes to having a second screen.

So you were wrong with your accusation eh...

 

[darkazcura]

In your opinion. Going by the numbers, most gamers don't share that opinion. They seem to be happy with gaming right now as it is. I know I am - because I know there's more than enough room for both God of War and Mario Kart.

I am happy both exist. It seems some of the more devoted Nintendo fans are not. Oh well. It's not likely to change to their version of Nintopia.

Again, I don't see why you think this is a Nintendo fan thing only. There are plenty of gamers who feel the same way about Nintendo games. That they lack creativity. They are the same thing. So on and so forth. It's an issue that exists everywhere in the community and is not exclusive to "the most devoted Nintendo fans".

 

[Ansatz]

How is it different? Marios, Zeldas, Mario Karts, etc. The Wii U isn't different as the PS4 uses the Vita and better than the gamepad, I may add. The Wii U's severely limited in how far the controller can be from the console and still connect. And no, being different shouldn't be applauded just for being different. Different should be applauded if it actually brings something to the table. And the general public has loudly told Nintendo it doesn't care about the Wii U which is quite different than it's response to the Wii. THAT was different.

Why don't you address the actual example I provided? Splatoon. It's completely different from the franchises it takes inspiration from, in that it doesn't look, feel or play like them, but captures their distilled essence.

Like I said you will inevitably have flops under your belt, but taking risks is the only way to discover something new. And there are way more factors at play, a game not selling could be attributed to say bad release timing / marketing, it doesn't mean that the masses rejected it per se. Wii U itself is responsible for the low software sales, 3DS shows that 10m ppl still bought Mario Kart, the new MK8 figures are not indicative of how many like/dislike a franchise. Alot of it is about hype, momentum, competition, timing, etc. My friends are having an absolute blast playing some of my Wii U games but would never consider a purchase. No sale doesn't necessarily mean the market fundamentally rejected your idea. They'll try again next gen with modifications to their business model.

 

[Gluka]

Gamers don't know what they want. Generally when asked about their dream game it's derivative, the theme is always take this existing game, but make it better, bigger, more.

But when the market is presented with brand new ideas, sometimes they flop but this is the only way to discover something you didn't even knew you wanted. I'm refering to stuff like Wii Sports, Minecraft, Portal. It's how new genres were born, by providing an entirely different way of looking at video games nobody asked for. It's how we got to where we are today, but why stop now and not continue to pitch concepts that sound bizarre at first glance.

The gaming community should applaud Nintendo for being different instead of saying lol, good luck getting the CoD and Gears audience with Splatoon. Implying they should instead develop a product equivalent i.e. a copy to what's selling currently.

How do they not know what they want? Gamers want something fun. People can't see into the future, so I don't understand how they'd answer "I want a game where you build things with blocks in a giant procedural open world" or "I want a first-person puzzle game where you can open up a portal when you shoot your gun." They sit down and play them and then conclude that they enjoy them. Gamers merely wanting the same thing except bigger and better seems like a false perception honestly.

Great games are sometimes very derivative, sometimes they're not. Is your point that Nintendo is more innovative than any other publisher? A lot of Nintendo titles seem to be incremental improvements over previous ones, just as much as anything else released by the other big publishers, so I can't say that I really share this sentiment.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Having used both, I can't see any which way macro blocking, increased latency (by a long shot) and lower framerates are better for, you know, playing games.

Different strokes is one thing (and why this thread has stirred controversy) but what herpes is accusing others of doing (blind defence of a corporate entity) is exactly how you'd justify a miracast stream on its own wifi frequency being objectively inferior to what the vita does. And that's not knocking the vita either, because they did the best they could with what they had. But it isn't in the same stratosphere when it comes to having a second screen. And it's strength (taking it out of the house, which is damn cool) actually adds to the above weaknesses.

Because they serve fundamentally different purposes. The Wii U only allows me to move about 30 feet away from the console. I can take my PSV and play it while I'm 15 mile away on campus between classes. Does that make the streaming or tech "better?" No, because the tech in the Wii U Gamepad is doing something different (and I guarantee if the Wii U tried to do what the PSV was doing, it'd have the same issues). But for me, is the PSV "better?" Absolutely. I get way more use out of the PSV Remote Play than I do Wii U offscreen play.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

You were saying?

Jesus, get a duster dude

 

[Laconic]

Jesus, get a duster dude

Putting a Wii U on top of his PS4, is even more cringeworthy.

I'm afraid to breathe on mine, the thing seems so delicate/shoddily made.

If anything the PS4 ought to be on top of the Wii U.

Because the Wii U hardware could handle it.

 

[Nealand Liquor]

Did I say that the PC release is useless? This thread is pretty obviously about consoles and not PCs.

Noone knew that a PS4+Bone cashgrab was coming. Which means console gamers, that were interested, already bought last generation console versions. Which also means they have already played the game.
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Not in my case. There are a few games I held off on (GTA being one) because it was obvious it was going to be rereleased on both new consoles.
I do think I am in the minority.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Not in my case. There are a few games I held off on (GTA being one) because it was obvious it was going to be rereleased on both new consoles.
I do think I am in the minority.

I held off on GTA V and TLOU myself. At least among the less casual gaming crowd, I don't think this was quite as uncommon as people might think.

 

[qko]

Just one game?

Akiba's Trip: Undead and Undressed (PS4)
CoD AW
Assassins Creed Unity
The Crew
The Wolf Among Us
Halo MCC (X1)
Lego Batman 3
Dragon Age Inquisition
Far Cry 4
GTA V
Little Big Planet 3 (PS4)
Monopoly Family Fun Pack
WWE 2K15
Plus a few others...

As a primarily Nintendo owner, I personally will buy a PS4 or XBOne at some point, it's just that what is being offered at the moment is not really enticing. I buy Nintendo at launch because I know at some point there will be a Mario Kart, a smash Bros, one or two Zeldas, and some sweet sweet Mario, half of that list will be fulfilled by the end of the year. Add in surprises each gen like the Metroid Primes during the GC era or the 2d platforming revival+ operation rainfall games during the Wii era. But with the current PS4/XBOne library I ask: Where are the RPGs? Where are the massive open world games? These kinds of games made me want a 360 when the Wii just didn't offer those games, I bought a PS2 after playing Shadow of the Colossus and God of War I and II at a friends house. Bought a 360 with Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect and Super Street Fighter IV. I feel that the only quality game that has come out on either the PS4 or XBOne that has interested me has been The Last of Us, but I'd rather buy a PS3 and explore that extensive library if that's the game that is going to sell me.

Let's look at your list:

Akiba's Trip: Undead and Undressed (PS4) (Nah.)
CoD AW (I'm done with FPS's this gen, I just can't do single player FPS's anymore, especially since most of my friends have not purchased either system, I can't commit to FPS multiplayer until more friends have made the jump to either the PS4 or XBOne. Call me a Luddite, but CoD has taught me that I do not enjoy online multiplayer gaming with strangers)
Assassins Creed Unity (this franchise has been hit <AC II, Rev, IV> or miss <AC I, brotherhood, III>, will wait for reviews)
The Crew (This has system seller potential, waiting for more news on this)
The Wolf Among Us (Will wait for steam sale)
Halo MCC (X1) (I like a collection like this, but it's not enough to sell me on a console yet, it's one of those games to get once you already have the console).
Lego Batman 3 (could buy this on the Wii U or 360, isn't a system seller, glad to see Lego games on system seller lists.)
Dragon Age Inquisition (Will wait for reviews, DA II was too repetitive and hype deflated with this franchise)
Far Cry 4 (This game looks really good. Sure it's an FPS, but there seems to be some interesting gameplay elements that make it look like a good sell).
GTA V (already played and finished on the 360, don't want any more ports)
Little Big Planet 3 (PS4) (I only played the PSP version which I was not too fond of)
Monopoly Family Fun Pack (Wii shovelware have become system sellers now? Seems like toward the end of this list the bottom of the barrel began to scrape)
WWE 2K15 (Nope.)

Two games (one has a vague release date) that in interested in, and two that I will wait for reviews since the quality of the franchises have been inconsistent.

But yeah, these lists like yours become opinions because unless you got set dates on Mass Effect 4, Fallout 4 or the next Elder Scrolls, I'd say there's only one or two games on the PS4/XBOne list you have there that look interesting so far. I'm sure those games will be coming at some point, but until then I'll wait, you never know if there will be a price drop on consoles by the time those games are officially announced and released.

Heck everything I said is an opinion of the game list you put up. If a Halo Collection is what makes you buy an XBOne, more power to you, gaming should be fun and not a Console Warz argument. If you are buying a PS4 for Monopoly Family Fun Pack heck, own that shit and have fun with it!

 

[Aroll]

Putting a Wii U on top of his PS4, is even more cringeworthy.

I'm afraid to breathe on mine, the thing seems so delicate/shoddily made.

If anything the PS4 ought to be on top of the Wii U.

Because the Wii U hardware could handle it.

Does the PS4 really feel shoddily made? Serious question. Most folks I see seem to think the system is sleek and solidly built, though it tends to run a little on the hot side, which could affect potential longevity, but it is far too soon to determine that yet. Just asking if there really is some explanation for it to feel like it's not put together well.

I own an Xbox One and have my Wii U sitting on top of the disc drop area for it, but personally the Xbox One feels solid. I mean, not solid in that I think I could drop it and everything would be okay - for the most part only Nintendo systems feel like it cna take that sort of beating - but solid in that I can drop stuff ON IT or stack things on it, and it won't break. Plus, it runs plenty cool. The only time I would say issues occured was when I USE to keep my cable box on top of it - but that's the cable boxes fault. My cable box runs so hot I can't even touch it most of the time. Probably explains why it occasionally locks up or stops responding once in awhile. They really should have kept it a bit bigger for better ventilation.

 

[Chindogg]

Does the PS4 really feel shoddily made? Serious question. Most folks I see seem to think the system is sleek and solidly built, though it tends to run a little on the hot side, which could affect potential longevity, but it is far too soon to determine that yet. Just asking if there really is some explanation for it to feel like it's not put together well.

I own an Xbox One and have my Wii U sitting on top of the disc drop area for it, but personally the Xbox One feels solid. I mean, not solid in that I think I could drop it and everything would be okay - for the most part only Nintendo systems feel like it cna take that sort of beating - but solid in that I can drop stuff ON IT or stack things on it, and it won't break. Plus, it runs plenty cool. The only time I would say issues occured was when I USE to keep my cable box on top of it - but that's the cable boxes fault. My cable box runs so hot I can't even touch it most of the time. Probably explains why it occasionally locks up or stops responding once in awhile. They really should have kept it a bit bigger for better ventilation.

I honestly think it depends on when it was made. The one my brother bought seemed really sturdy and solid. It was a really nice piece of machinery.

I find it odd that the same type of gamers who look down their nose with disdain at non-Nintendo games and decry them as "lol walking simulators" want to turn masterpieces like TLOU into literal walking simulators.

Not you two, of course, but I've seen this "it'd be a better game without the icky combat" complaint from Ninty fans before. It's the very definition of trying to have it both ways.

To be fair, not everyone wants to have the same experiences.

Not going to lie but TLoU felt really jarring when it turned into a free for all of tons of infected for no reason. I wanted to explore the world a bit, let the game breath, but instead I felt like I was constantly in the modern cliched third person shooting cover system that seems so popular in every game since Gears of War. For me, its instances like that along with the overlong cutscenes and almost every character being completely unlikable that really hurt the experience for me.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

I seem to recall someone involved with Mass Effect saying that they wanted something similar as an option, where you could just play the game for the world building and narrative, and turn all the combat off, and the GAF thread absolutely crucified them for daring to suggest such a thing.

If I could remember the specifics I'd try and find it.

I find it odd that the same type of gamers who look down their nose with disdain at non-Nintendo games and decry them as "lol walking simulators" want to turn masterpieces like TLOU into literal walking simulators.

Not you two, of course, but I've seen this "it'd be a better game without the icky combat" complaint from Ninty fans before. It's the very definition of trying to have it both ways.

 

[JoeM86]

How is it different? Marios, Zeldas, Mario Karts, etc. The Wii U isn't different as the PS4 uses the Vita and better than the gamepad, I may add. The Wii U's severely limited in how far the controller can be from the console and still connect. And no, being different shouldn't be applauded just for being different. Different should be applauded if it actually brings something to the table. And the general public has loudly told Nintendo it doesn't care about the Wii U which is quite different than it's response to the Wii. THAT was different.

First, the GamePad isn't just used for Off-TV play. That's just one feature. Also, being locked to 30fps and having latency is not "better". Yes, you can run it through the Internet, but I'd rather not when it comes with those issues.

Nintendo made a miscalculation with the Wii U. Nobody disputes that. Yes, the public don't care, but it's disingenuous and downright false to say the Wii U doesn't bring anything different to the table.

 

[Fatalmephisto]

When I said earlier in this thread that I was getting an Xbox One and using it as my secondary console of choice, the only games I plan on getting is Sunset Overdrive and Resident Evil Revelations 2.

Nintendo has my Wallet on locked down pretty much from now until the end of 2015. So lets just hope that Nintendo does another amazing Digital Event at 2015 E3.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Excuse you, it appeared to until it came out.



The system is profitable and will lats the whole generation. Nintendo's current problems aren't stemming from system sales as much as they are from their piss poor management in building teams and developer tools to actually make games for HD systems. They were horribly underequipped to actually make games for the Wii U.

They're stemming from the demonstrable fact that Nintendo is not really relevant to most mainstream gamers these days.

One can whine and pretend that their tastes are oh so much more enlightened, but the numbers don't lie - those tastes are niche. There's no shame in accepting that.

 

[Chindogg]

They're stemming from the demonstrable fact that Nintendo is not really relevant to most mainstream gamers these days.

One can whine and pretend that their tastes are oh so much more enlightened, but the numbers don't lie - those tastes are niche. There's no shame in accepting that.

There's totally nothing wrong with accepting that mainstream games have moved on to
"cinematic experiences" and perennial franchises. At the same time, its not a bad thing that Nintendo isn't the #1 system around.

I'm perfectly ok with Nintendo being a niche company, focusing on experiences I don't get with AAA franchise titles. As long as they remain profitable it's not that big of a deal. Gaming needs more variety anyways.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

I find it odd that the same type of gamers who look down their nose with disdain at non-Nintendo games and decry them as "lol walking simulators" want to turn masterpieces like TLOU into literal walking simulators.

Not you two, of course, but I've seen this "it'd be a better game without the icky combat" complaint from Ninty fans before. It's the very definition of trying to have it both ways.

I'm 100% unapologetically in favour of games that don't contain combat, actually.
Afrika, Endless Ocean, Gone Home, Dear Esther - I think the gaming landscape would be poorer without them.
EDIT:
I don't consider "experiential" games like these to be directly comparable to "cinematic" games though.

 

[Unknown One]

Wii-U is not profitable yet. They are only making a profit this fiscal year because they already written off the lost for last year.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

? You're the only one saying this.

Lol ok. Yeah, no N fans in here acting like their tastes are superior, no siree.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

You seem to be implying that all the posters in the 8 OTs are too stupid to actually be enjoying the game and thinking for themselves beyond the marketing hype.

That's a pretty nasty sentiment.

There's a word for it: disdainful.

 

[M°°nblade]

As a primarily Nintendo owner, I personally will buy a PS4 or XBOne at some point, it's just that what is being offered at the moment is not really enticing. I buy Nintendo at launch because I know at some point there will be a Mario Kart, a smash Bros, one or two Zeldas, and some sweet sweet Mario, half of that list will be fulfilled by the end of the year. Add in surprises each gen like the Metroid Primes during the GC era or the 2d platforming revival+ operation rainfall games during the Wii era. But with the current PS4/XBOne library I ask: Where are the RPGs? Where are the massive open world games?

I'm an RPG fan myself. I'm not sure if you mean RPG's in general of just jRPG's but just like you know that at some point, there will be a mario kart, a smash bros and a zelda game on a Nintendo console, you know that PS4/XBone will get a fuckload of RPG's.

Diablo III, Child of Light and Transistor are already available. And Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts III, Deep down, Dragon age, Witcher 3, bloodborn, Persona 5 and Lords of the Fallen are upcoming.

So I don't see where your concerns or uncertainty is coming from.

Personally, I'm still working on my back catalogue (being Ni no kuni and Dark souls 2), so I haven't bought a next-gen console yet. But I have no intentions to buy a Wii U. Even with the upcoming releases included, the Wii U library seems pretty poor to me. For a console that's been on the market for almost two years, there's only a handful of respectable games on it and those that are, don't really appeal to me. In fact, the PS4 already has more games I would want to play after being on the market for 10 months.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

But I have no intentions to buy a Wii U. Even with the upcoming releases included, the Wii U library seems pretty poor to me. For a console that's been on the market for almost two years, there's only a handful of respectable games on it and those that are, don't really appeal to me. In fact, the PS4 already has more games I would want to play after being on the market for 10 months.

You may not like what the Wii U has to offer and prefer Killzone to ZombiU, Knack to Mario World, CoD to Bayonetta or Driveclub to Mario Kart. Thats okay. Different tastes for different people.

But to say Wii U has no "respectable" games is absurd. They are already many critically acclaimed games on the system.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Every fandom has annoying fans. However, those are the fans that stand out the most. Nintendo fans are obnoxious like you mentioned, but you gotta realize that it's a vocal minority that is so one-sided about Nintendo having the only good games. I think you're making a bad generalization and judging an entire fanbase on that obnoxious minority with their blind fanboyism.

Thankfully, you'll note in the very post you quoted that I made a point of saying "some". : )

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Gamers don't know what they want. Generally when asked about their dream game it's derivative, the theme is always take this existing game, but make it better, bigger, more.

But when the market is presented with brand new ideas, sometimes they flop but this is the only way to discover something you didn't even knew you wanted. I'm refering to stuff like Wii Sports, Minecraft, Portal. It's how new genres were born, by providing an entirely different way of looking at video games nobody asked for. It's how we got to where we are today, but why stop now and not continue to pitch concepts that sound bizarre at first glance.

The gaming community should applaud Nintendo for being different instead of saying lol, good luck getting the CoD and Gears audience with Splatoon. Implying they should instead develop a product equivalent i.e. a copy to what's selling currently.

But Nintendo fans know what's good for gamers?

Lol gimme a break. This is exactly the attitude I'm talking about.

 

[junglist]

my WiiU is collecting dust..

If i have to chose between a $60 PS4 game and a $60 WiiU game. My money is going towards the PS4. I think I am the only person that I know who owns a WIIU..

If they would drop the game price to $40 per game.. I definately would have a nice collection.

until they drop Smash Bro's and Zelda, I don't think my WIIU will power on, now that i just beat the whole Zelda series again...

 

[SmokyDave]

Having multiple OTS about a game well before its release date isn't exactly the strongest argument against the power of marketing.

Are we talking about Smash Bros here?

 

[M°°nblade]

You may not like what the Wii U has to offer and prefer Killzone to ZombiU, Knack to Mario World, CoD to Bayonetta or Driveclub to Mario Kart. Thats okay. Different tastes for different people.

But to say Wii U has no "respectable" games is absurd. They are already many critically acclaimed games on the system.

I didn't say 'no respectable games'.
I just find the number of respectable games rather small for a console that's been on the market for almost two games.
I don't know what your definition of a 'critically acclaimed game' is or should be, but if you count the number of releases that got 80% or higher on GR for example, the PS4 library already exceeds it.
Ofcourse, this is due to the low number of Wii U releases and bad sales but as a consumer I don't care about the 'why's' but the results.

PS I wouldn't buy any of the games you mentioned above.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Just one game?

Akiba's Trip: Undead and Undressed (PS4)
CoD AW
Assassins Creed Unity
The Crew
The Wolf Among Us
Halo MCC (X1)
Lego Batman 3
Dragon Age Inquisition
Far Cry 4
GTA V
Little Big Planet 3 (PS4)
Monopoly Family Fun Pack
WWE 2K15
Plus a few others...

I had no idea November was this stacked.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

Nintendo has always been like taking a child to a child's concert for me. I always have to look at them like, "Is this good?"

manhood

 

[pinkurocket]

Thankfully, you'll note in the very post you quoted that I made a point of saying "some". : )

Well, the fact that you let 'some' of these fans get to you to make such a post tells me that you probably project the impression you get from them on Nintendo and the fanbase as a whole, therefore hurting your opinion.

 

[GrotesqueBeauty]

The Wii U deserves more respect than it generally gets, both in terms of message board discourse and overall sales. Even with some typically long gaps between major software releases it's managing to amass a kick ass library of exclusives thanks to the consistently high quality of Nintendo's output, which I find incredible that anyone would question on a level of sheer craft. That said, I don't see the benefit of brow beating people who derive more enjoyment out of an alternate system by claiming superiority any more than I can respect the opinions of dogmatic fanboys with narrow tastes who like to cast Nintendo as hapless and creatively bankrupt with nothing of value to offer the current market.

So while it's a great fucking system, haters be damned, it doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea. I would however advocate it to anyone who shows a modicum of interest in the types of games it offers. It scratches an itch that I don't think any other current system does, and for that I love it. And although I'd argue passionately against some of the more asinine complaints floating around out there, my appreciation of the Wii U doesn't hinge on anyone else agreeing with me.

Wii U, it's a damn fine system. That's all that matters.

 

[urfe]

The GamePad is better at playing games than the Vita's remote play, but the conditions to do so are stricter.

The range from the console makes it not valuable for some, and to those people playing miles away is very valuable.

For me I think I'd prefer the GamePad to remote play (I don't have a PS4, so I don't know), but I prefer straight up the 3DS and Vita to both.

As mentioned, I don't have a PS4, but I do have a PS3, which I'm sure has tons of critically acclaimed games.... but none interest me, and I use my PS3 as a media centre and it's awesome at that.

So console wise, Wii U is my favorite, and I can't see myself buying a PS4 unless it got DQXI and FFXV turned out to not be another disappointment.

Maybe I should retype that with attitude?

 

[SYNTAX182]

The Wii U deserves more respect than it generally gets, both in terms of message board discourse and overall sales. Even with some typically long gaps between major software releases it's managing to amass a kick ass library of exclusives thanks to the consistently high quality of Nintendo's output, which I find incredible that anyone would question on a level of sheer craft. That said, I don't see the benefit of brow beating people who derive more enjoyment out of an alternate system by claiming superiority any more than I can respect the opinions of dogmatic fanboys with narrow tastes who like to cast Nintendo as hapless and creatively bankrupt with nothing of value to offer the current market.

So while it's a great fucking system, haters be damned, it doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea. I would however advocate it to anyone who shows a modicum of interest in the types of games it offers. It scratches an itch that I don't think any other current system does, and for that I love it. And although I'd argue passionately against some of the more asinine complaints floating around out there, my appreciation of the Wii U doesn't hinge on anyone else agreeing with me.

Wii U, it's a damn fine system. That's all that matters.

Stop being so neutral and pick a side! Grrr.

 

[GrotesqueBeauty]

Stop being so neutral and pick a side! Grrr.

Er, I'll give it the old college try. My side is that I generally love Nintendo and Sony for different reasons, and always feel confident in investing in their systems once there's a handful of games I'd like to play. I usually get Microsoft systems begrudgingly for a smattering of exclusives later in the generation, wishing I didn't have to but being a slave to my undying appreciation of great software regardless of platform. At the same time, I don't begrudge people who favor the type of software MS generally offers, as long as they don't paint their personal proclivities as gospel.

Damn it, wait. What I mean is YOU SHOULD ALL THINK WHAT I THINK, MORANS! Yeah. That felt good...

 

[Log4Girlz]

An appropriate gif to use in a Wii U thread, you know considering its sales.



Wii U is a sad system. Its just full of sadness. Could have been great, could have been a contender. Instead you have a neat niche experience. From a gaming perspective there's nothing wrong with that if you have the coin to buy an alternate console. Once I get through my Wii and Steam backlog, I'll pick one up cheap.

 

[meppi]

Haha, that's actually very appropriate for this thread, seeing as what it has been turned into.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Well, the fact that you let 'some' of these fans get to you to make such a post tells me that you probably project the impression you get from them on Nintendo and the fanbase as a whole, therefore hurting your opinion.

I like Nintendo. My closest friends are huge fans. Difference is, they're not douches about it. I'm definitely speaking solely about some wholly unbearable people on Gaf. I've been lurking for years; I know who the good ones are (like Rash, who is a great fan and does his favorite company proud with earnest positivism) - and the jerks in the crowd know who they are.

 

[SYNTAX182]

Er, I'll give it the old college try. My side is that I generally love Nintendo and Sony for different reasons, and always feel confident in investing in their systems once there's a handful of games I'd like to play. I usually get Microsoft systems begrudgingly for a smattering of exclusives later in the generation, wishing I didn't have to but being a slave to my undying appreciation of great software regardless of platform. At the same time, I don't begrudge people who favor the type of software MS generally offers, as long as they don't paint their personal proclivities as gospel.

Damn it, wait. What I mean is YOU SHOULD ALL THINK WHAT I THINK, MORANS! Yeah. That felt good...

Ah, much better. Now we can continue to go 88 miles per hour and soak in these dizzying 90's era console war discussions, happily giving me concussions from every angle until the next gen.

 

[Anondreas]

This thread makes me want to read Console Wars.