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OUCH....PSM kills Lair and Warhawk...

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The beta was fantastic! I only got to play a few hours, but damn its an awesome game. Can't wait only 6 more days.

These reviews seem kinda bogus for sure. And after reading the comments on Home from this guy! certainly biased.

But it seems allot of people in this thread need someone they don't even know or haven't even met, to think for them. Thats whats truly sad!
 
warhawk wasnt that bad at all

shaem on PSM

the game isnt revolutionary or anything but it is certainly above average

the beta was great
 
chespace said:
Why is everyone jumping ship on Lair all of a sudden?
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I don't know about everyone else but the second I heard that you take down elephants by harpooning and tangling their legs and making them fall over I decided I had already played the game twice. I will still probably rent it at some point though.
 
60_gig_PS3 said:
The problem I have with Warhawk (haven't played it) is that it doesn't look to break any new ground compared to Battlefield 1942 which is like 3 years old now. Does it?

I dont doubt that it's fun because the formula has been proven and done before.
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If you look at it that way then I couldn't see you liking halo 3, CoD4 or any other shooter multiplayer, I mean honestly has the formula from any of these games really changed that much? I think the difference of Warhawk is that unlike Battlefield it's not a FPS and aircraft combat is a huge part of the game.

*EDIT* sorry I read your post wrong I though you said it wouldn't be fun because of the formula that's been done before.
 
wowfactor said:
Boblablaw,
why do you think a 15 hour game is too short? Gears must be too too short then.
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Gears is shorter than I would've liked, but it had multi-player. I won't spend $60 on any game that is single-player only and less than 15 hours. BTW, I never rent, I only buy, so the game must have either 15+ hours of single-player content or multi-player. I did buy Bioshock for the PC today (which is where most of my gaming hours are spent), but I didn't get ripped off for $60. Only had to pay $40 at CC. >:)
 
LOL, Sony is the new Nintendo, and they can't even do that right.

Seriously though, from all that I've heard about the game and the way everyone, even review outlets, have been raving I'm surprised it got such a low score.
 
PleoMax said:
But why? Why is warhawk at least a 8.5? And Lair a solid 7.0 or 7.5. Why?
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It just opinion. Warhawk like Halo, UT, Battlefield, etc...I mean its just fun.

And has huge maps which is a sniper's dream. Besides glitches and weak graphics on the ground I can't really hate on the game. I hate flying games BTW.

As for Lair, idk what to really say. None of the reviews say Lair's story is crap. Just the mission objectives. The media blowout of Lair changed "my" mind about its graphics. Then you have 7.1 sound which I can take advantage of. And finally what seems to be mixed reviews on the gameplay. Some don't mention it, some say its fine, and others say its crap.

Sounds like a 7 to me.
 
BobLoblaw said:
Gears is shorter than I would've liked, but it had multi-player. I won't spend $60 on any game that is single-player only and less than 15 hours. BTW, I never rent, I only buy, so the game must have either 15+ hours of single-player content or multi-player. I did buy Bioshock for the PC today (which is where most of my gaming hours are spent), but I didn't get ripped off for $60. Only had to pay $40 at CC. >:)
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If you don't play games that are under 15hrs single player, then you haven't played many games.
 
chespace said:
Why is everyone jumping ship on Lair all of a sudden?
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Because few of them were really on the ship in the first place. And you're only on it because of a cousin :p

Me, still there, Day 1.
 
kaching said:
Me, still there, Day 1.
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I'm there as well.
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I don't know much about Warhawk but was always confused by the popularity that Lair got; the game seemed mad shallow from that gameplay trailer that was let out a few months ago.

Regardless, this thread is the web version of a tourniquet if I EVER saw one. :lol :lol :lol

SonSon2 said:
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YESSAHHH!!!! :lol :lol
 
Ranger X said:
Well, Warhawk pricing actually blows. This should have been 40$ top. It's a freaking online game with multiplayer only. I mean, common.
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And that has been the general consensus that I've heard from all over the place now that the reviews are coming in. Whether or not you will actually *play* the game, most folks that just look at what the game offers up & it's price, people are left scratching their heads on how is managed to be as expensive as it is right now.

It's like me selling you a car that can seat 6 people (5 comfortably), but telling you that even though you can fit 6 people in it, only YOU can ride in it.....and....it costs you 25,000$ AND only takes you to work every day. If you wanted a car that will let you have more people in it and lets you go more places....well...you have to buy someone else's car.
 
There's just to many games this fall, and although I would like to buy Lair, I will save the money for some other games.

But when it hits $20-$30 I'll pick it up to play on a rainy day or when I'm sick or something.
Great to have a game like that around on those types of days.
 
DiatribeEQ said:
And that has been the general consensus that I've heard from all over the place now that the reviews are coming in. Whether or not you will actually *play* the game, most folks that just look at what the game offers up & it's price, people are left scratching their heads on how is managed to be as expensive as it is right now.
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But the game is $40
 
Lair sucks anyway and Warhawk probably got marked down because of the high price point (in fact it DID get marked down because of price point).

Waiting for PSM Heavenly Sword review though.
 
Dahbomb said:
Lair sucks anyway and Warhawk probably got marked down because of the high price point (in fact it DID get marked down because of price point).

Waiting for PSM Heavenly Sword review though.
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Dude, it's $40 bucks on psm and for the $60 one you get a bluetooth headset that is worth over $40 where is this complaint on price justified? Not one person has given a good reason for bitching about warhawks pricing, and most of the people who have are people who didn't play the beta, and people seem to forget somehow it comes with the headset.
 
jjasper said:
But the game is $40
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Eh? Thought the official price was 60$? Perhaps I missed something (or clarification) along the ways? Still.....most games that're Multi-player only and cost over a particular amount boil down to whether or not I liked any previous version of the game...or liked the developer and trust their history in games. Such as Unreal Tournyment. I'll buy those every revision on my PC and love every second of it (Unreal 2003 was kinda a stinker though...good thing 2004 made up for it!).

40$ you say though? Hmmm...kinda debateable though...I could see where folks could go either way on it still. Anything beyond that though? Hell no.
 
Synless said:
Dude, it's $40 bucks on psm and for the $60 one you get a bluetooth headset that is worth over $40 where is this complaint on price justified? Not one person has given a good reason for bitching about warhawks pricing, and most of the people who have are people who didn't play the beta, and people seem to forget somehow it comes with the headset.
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Most people seem to think Warhawk is worth $30 at the most. That's the same thing 1up.com said. Expect a 7 or a 6 from 1up as well.
 
DiatribeEQ said:
Eh? Thought the official price was 60$? Perhaps I missed something (or clarification) along the ways? Still.....most games that're Multi-player only and cost over a particular amount boil down to whether or not I liked any previous version of the game...or liked the developer and trust their history in games. Such as Unreal Tournyment. I'll buy those every revision on my PC and love every second of it (Unreal 2003 was kinda a stinker though...good thing 2004 made up for it!).

40$ you say though? Hmmm...kinda debateable though...I could see where folks could go either way on it still. Anything beyond that though? Hell no.
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The game can be purchased at
1)Retail for $60 with a headset
2)PSN for $40
 
cjelly said:
cue 'but PSM was a rubbish mag anyway' posts.
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Actually, whenever they rate PS3 games high the threads usually get a few of those posts before post #10. This thread seems to be the sole exception
 
Dahbomb said:
Most people seem to think Warhawk is worth $30 at the most. That's the same thing 1up.com said. Expect a 7 or a 6 from 1up as well.
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Just out of curiosity did you play the Warhawk beta?
 
there's a real problem with the gaming community when bioshock can do a $60 single-player only game but warhawk can't do a full priced (or even $40?!) multiplayer-only game. fucking ridiculous.
 
Firewire said:
Just out of curiosity did you play the Warhawk beta?
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That's what I'm saying, I swear most of the people who complain about the price haven't played it. seriously most of my friends are going to get this game and not one of them bitched about the price after playing it.
 
jjasper said:
The game can be purchased at
1)Retail for $60 with a headset
2)PSN for $40
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Hmmm...that's not too bad then I guess.....only gripe-able thing I could say, would be: Why is it so expensive to buy online then? It appears the only difference is that the headset could be worth 20 bucks....but now you don't have a case/manual/disc either....(you'd think it'd be a 5-10$ cheaper too)
 
Firewire said:
Just out of curiosity did you play the Warhawk beta?
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I said MOST people, as in people who just happen to have not played it. I am not one of them, as I do believe Warhawk is a solid purchase for $40. Game should be getting 8's and 9's IMO, but this is a thread about PSM's review, not about what I believe it should get.
 
dfyb said:
there's a real problem with the gaming community when bioshock can do a $60 single-player only game but warhawk can't do a full priced (or even $40?!) multiplayer-only game. fucking ridiculous.
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Wait.....bioshock doesn't have multiplayer? yea I didn't know I haven't played it yet.... :(
 
dfyb said:
there's a real problem with the gaming community when bioshock can do a $60 single-player only game but warhawk can't do a full priced (or even $40?!) multiplayer-only game. fucking ridiculous.
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It's a double standard that I still don't understand. A good single player only game might be of 10-15 hours length, and worth the $60. I think I easily spent over 40+ hours with the Warhawk Beta...how on earth is that $40 unjustifiable, unless you simply don't like the game in the first place?
 
DiatribeEQ said:
Hmmm...that's not too bad then I guess.....only gripe-able thing I could say, would be: Why is it so expensive to buy online then? It appears the only difference is that the headset could be worth 20 bucks....but now you don't have a case/manual/disc either....(you'd think it'd be a 5-10$ cheaper too)
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You get an online manual with the downloadable ; P

Furthermore, you can cut the price down to $8 if you Game Share the game with 4 other people.
 
Dahbomb said:
I said MOST people, as in people who just happen to have not played it. I am not one of them, as I do believe Warhawk is a solid purchase for $40. Game should be getting 8's and 9's IMO, but this is a thread about PSM's review, not about what I believe it should get.
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I was just thinking your name was familiar & I was thinking it was maybe from the beta that I remembered it, but I guess not.
 
This shit is like people trusting SDF with their bioshock review. the new PSM EIC is a 360 fanboy. will he deny it? i probably doubt it and if he does what about all the crap and trash he's talked that you can readily find in mag scans etc. cats out of the bag on this one we'll see who the new EIC is next issue
 
chubigans said:
It's a double standard that I still don't understand. A good single player only game might be of 10-15 hours length, and worth the $60. I think I easily spent over 40+ hours with the Warhawk Beta...how on earth is that $40 unjustifiable, unless you simply don't like the game in the first place?
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To be honest I think the only people who complain about things like this are people like us, lol it just seems to me that most people will look at it and be like "It's warhawk and it comes with a bluetooth headset too, awesome"
 
I'm up for a game share on Warhawk. The score is a tad bit on the low side, having participated in the beta i would give it a 7.5 no higher. It's a good game that offers hours of fun in a multiplayer only environment. Fans of multiplayer games will love it, perhaps others will not.

Lair was never on my radar, I always thought it look liked shit, and no amount of screenshots and movies could sway my opinion, and lord I'd be loathed into believing some of the Gafers who lean nearly exclusively on one console (Sony or otherwise) ever again.


So about this game sharing business . . .

DC are you going the hard copy route or the Psn one?
 
Synless said:
To be honest I think the only people who complain about things like this are people like us, lol it just seems to me that most people will look at it and be like "It's warhawk and it comes with a bluetooth headset too, awesome"
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Probably. Who buys SOCOM for the single player anyways?

I seriously can't wait for this game...my friends ask me about it every day. :lol
 
fortified_concept said:
Gotta love xbox fanboys in this thread. Calling PS3 lineup "la bomba" because of a couple of bad scores from shitty biased mags/sites would equal to me calling PS3 lineup the greatest ever because PLAY gave 9s and 10s to everything PS3. Only difference is that I'm not that pathetic.
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Playstation Magazine being shitty biased anti-sony mags/sites confirmed.
 
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