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"Our Founders said all men are created equal. But they left out a lot of us."

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dramatis

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On the Sunday morning before Election Day, Hillary Rodham Clinton, the first woman ever to be nominated by a major party for the American presidency, gave a sermon at the Mt. Airy Church of God in Christ in Philadelphia. Her voice hoarse after days of multistate campaigning, Clinton sounded exhausted but happy to be there. Even at the bitter end of a nearly two-year marathon campaign, she could still get energized by speaking at a black church on a Sunday.
Clinton preached to the congregation about the Founding Fathers — but not in the way that most politicians, in this era of right-wing deification of the country’s forebears, would invoke them two days before a presidential election. “Our Founders said all men are created equal,” Clinton said. “[But] they left out African-Americans. They left out women. They left out a lot of us.”

The congregation stood, hands in the air, calling back to her. “Our founders said our democracy should be shaped by ‘We the People,’ but we didn’t get to vote, did we? And even when the Constitution was amended to allow African-Americans to vote, it was still only men. And then, finally, when it was amended to allow women to vote, it took decades before that became a reality.”

Clinton’s point was clear: Her historic candidacy, coming on the heels of the election and reelection of our first black president, offered another crucial revision to the country’s founding assumptions, another inversion of its exclusions. And if she were to win, it would be thanks to a coalition of voters of color and women, exactly the people who had had to fight for centuries for the franchise.

The next night, Clinton stood alongside Barack and Michelle Obama before a crowd of 33,000 people outside Philadelphia’s Independence Hall, the spot where the architects of the nation had endowed its citizens with the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness — as they built their new country on the backs of enslaved African-Americans and subsidiary women. Clinton and the Obamas were taking an audacious risk in presenting themselves as united in a mission to broaden America’s notions of what leadership could look like, of what the power of expanded enfranchisement could mean for the kinds of people from whom it was withheld for so long.
This coalition-building was not just an illusion produced by a few high-wattage appearances. A poll released by the nonpartisan African-American Research Collaborative the Friday before Election Day found that while black voters were most motivated by jobs, 89 percent of respondents also were invested in comprehensive immigration reform, and support for same-sex marriage had risen 11 points since 2012 to 61 percent. Issues that used to divide marginalized populations — recall the passage of Prop 8 in 2008, thanks in part to a lack of support for gay rights among the African-American voters who turned out for Obama* — seemed to be, slowly but righteously, becoming common cause. The prospect of a truly intersectional Democratic movement seemed possible — not just possible but key to electing the first woman president, a woman who would not only shore up the Supreme Court but who was running on promises of comprehensive immigration reform, paid family leave, subsidized child care, a higher minimum wage, the repeal of the Hyde Amendment, and criminal-justice reform, all of which would of course have trouble getting past an obstructionist Congress, but nonetheless composed a blueprint for the future, an interlocking set of fixes that might begin to address structural barriers to equality. A more integrated progressive future was a glimmer in the eye of our sitting president, his would-be successor, and the coalition of voters that appeared to be forming behind her.

Which is why that last rally in Philadelphia was so stirring. It was chilly, and clear, and the most silent political rally I had ever attended. The intensity, the held breath, the reverence for the possibility that the politicians in front of us were standing in for the increased engagement and participation of many groups of Americans who spent centuries disenfranchised but now felt they had the power to elect presidents. This was a crowd praying that the Obama presidency had not been an exception to America’s white-male rule, but instead heralded an era in which diverse participation, leadership, and representation in government was the new rule.
There are those who argue that this election was not a referendum on women, it was a referendum on one woman; if the Democratic candidate had been Elizabeth Warren or practically anyone else, this might not have been the outcome. Throughout the election, many people complained that Clinton was not beating Trump by 20 points. How could she not be mopping the floor with this lying, bile-spewing monstrosity? But plenty of us understood all too well that the exceedingly prepared woman often loses the job to the far-less-qualified man. And, for the record, she did lead him by 20 points or more — with African-American voters, with Latino voters, with single women voters under 55, and by close to that number with Asian-American voters; the only reason this election was even close was because of white people, mostly white men. Few seem eager to examine the possibility that certain segments of America simply do not want to be led by a woman, and that almost every other explanation for what was wrong with her — her high negatives, reputation for being untrustworthy, the email mess — originates with the ways she has been systematically demonized her whole career for being a threatening woman.

The media narrative about the wretchedness of her political skills has obscured the fact that Hillary Clinton was a pretty great candidate for the presidency. Not a magnetic or inspiring speaker, no. The bearer of way too much awkward baggage, yes. But also: steady and strong and strategic and smart. Despite being under investigation by Congress and the FBI and the media, despite having her State Department emails made public, despite having her campaign staff’s emails hacked, despite being married to a man whose legislative and personal history made him deeply problematic, and despite the rolling waves of sexism directed at her and the racism directed at her predecessor and political partner Obama, she literally won the popularity contest. And the fact that she tried to build a coalition of voters that brought together the marginalized groups that will one day be the majority in this country was inspired and forward-­thinking, even in its ultimate failure.
We are in a period of tremendous national turmoil. What we are seeing is a backlash not just against Clinton’s candidacy but against the entire eight years of the Obama administration. It’s not just about who gets to be president. It’s about who gets to vote for the president, who gets to stay in America and make their families here and how those families get to be configured. It’s about who controls the culture, who makes the art, who makes the policies, whom those policies benefit and whom they harm.

Full article at the link. It's quite long, but worth a read.
 
Clinton's strategy wasn't wrong. It just banked too much on the Democratic base getting off their asses and voting.

And well, this election pretty much proved that shit is never happening.
 

Eidan

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This part is so damn true.

Monday-morning quarterbacks now litter the field, pointing out the one outlier poll, or their generalized conviction that Hillary was a terrible candidate, or that Trump’s celebrity helped him, or that Clinton didn’t visit Wisconsin enough, and that any one of these things makes Tuesday’s outcome perfectly comprehensible.

But the argument that if Clinton had taken a firmer stand on trade, or spent more time in Green Bay, it would have mitigated the fact that 48 percent of voters chose a self-confessed sexual predator who was endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan, attempts to apply reason where there is only visceral incongruity. Clinton was surely a flawed candidate; but Trump was a catastrophically awful one. The disparity is enough to make one wonder if she ever really had a chance.
 

JeanGrey

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And well, this election pretty much proved that shit is never happening.

I strongly disagree. The only reason she didn't win is because of her last name and the fact that she stood by her man.
Which is very unfortunate being that she is the most qualified person to EVER run for president.

That and some stupid asswipe putting more doubt in people's mind only to correct himself a couple of days before the election. Very convenient.
 

El Topo

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Before you write it off and focus on a welcome (even if possibly true) narrative, keep in mind that the US is very far behind when it comes to women in politics, as seen e.g. here or in the gender gap report.
These things are indicative of other (unrelated) underlying issues in US politics, e.g. racism.
 

Zackat

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The heartbreak of this election for Clinton supporters is not just the loss of a tough, smart, and inspiring first female president — though that is wrenching — but also the loss of the idea that this country was so very close to being better, more inclusive, more just, and more representative.

This is the worst part of it all for me.
 

FyreWulff

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It's one of the more frustrating aspects of "the founding fathers had it all right from the start!" ideology.

You couldn't vote if you didn't own property. (And some states even de facto made sure you owned a certain amount of property or they'd knock you off the rolls)

You couldn't vote if you were black.

Hell, even if you were FREE and black, and owned property, New York even specifically exempted black property owners from gaining the ability to vote..

The Senate was appointed and could kibosh anything the House put up.

The system was 100% designed to only let the upper financial bracket participate in the country, because the rich were the ones that funded the war. After winning, they wanted to keep their power. People don't realize this though because they think in the now, not in the reality of what was back then.
 

Wilsongt

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I don't think anyone believes a statement back from the mate 1700s is relevant today.

However, 61mil Americans really do want it to go back to it's original meaning of straight, white, Chrstian men.
 

stephen08

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I hate how the left turned on her after the loss. I honestly don't know if there has been a more qualified candidate when you consider all her years of service. Ideologically her view seemed very sound and forward thinking especially when compared to Trump's nostalgia-fueled bring back jobs, make America great again, nationalist rhetoric. Combine that with the fact that she won the popular vote and it makes me think that the blame flying around is people redirecting anger at her instead of just recognizing that a large number of Americans either supported someone who was extremely underqualified and just a generally shitty human being or decided that they didn't care enough to stop him from taking the power.
 

Wilsongt

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I hate how the left turned on her after the loss. I honestly don't know if there has been a more qualified candidate when you consider all her years of service. Ideologically her view seemed very sound and forward thinking especially when compared to Trump's nostalgia-fueled bring back jobs, make America great again, nationalist rhetoric. Combine that with the fact that she won the popular vote and it makes me think that the blame flying around is people redirecting anger at her instead of just recognizing that a large number of Americans either supported someone who was extremely underqualified and just a generally shitty human being or decided that they didn't care enough to stop him from taking the power.

People are still very upset and looking for someone to blame. We're in uncharted territory. You can only blame the people who didn't vote so much before you have to find another scapegoat.
 

Nikodemos

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Combine that with the fact that she won the popular vote and it makes me think that the blame flying around is people redirecting anger at her instead of just recognizing that a large number of Americans either supported someone who was extremely underqualified and just a generally shitty human being or decided that they didn't care enough to stop him from taking the power.
Many on the left are unwilling to accept that voter suppression, overflowing-cesspit-level media and outside interference (FBI foremost, but Putinleaks also stars here) caused massive damage to the campaign. Not least because, despite their purported intelligence, they were just as vulnerable/credule and easily influenced by the continuous barrage of garbage pumped 24/7. It's why a critical number of them convinced themselves to refuse an uninspiring yet otherwise adequate candidate.

And they're especially unwilling to accept that a non-insignificant amount of the know-nothings who managed to supplant the NeverTrumpers were mobilised on a simple, yet not directly stated (one of Trump's few truly smart moves) campaign promise: the fact that they could say 'nigger' and 'faggot' openly (again). The issue is more complicated here, because there's nothing Dems can offer to these people, and it scares them enormously. An entire demographic slice is basically forcefielded from them.
 
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