Oversexualization in pornography

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After reading the thread about sexualized characters in games I decided to make a post about the real problem that's going on.

Both men and woman are being over sexualized in pornography, they are show completely naked and are paid to engage in sexual acts for other people entertainment, reduced to sacks of meat for our pleasure, it's disgusting and it needs to stop.

I propose from now all pornography must be done fully clothed (Or as close as possible), genitals, breasts or any other form of sexual body part of the actors can't be shown.

Let's create porn we are proud to show to our children!

This is satire, and I'm sorry for the low effort post, it's late
 
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It's fuckin low effort satire as well pal. In fact, it's no even satire. It's basically you getting pissy and makin a snark thread because you wandered into that other thread and didn't know what the fuck you were going on about.

Here, here's some satire for ye, see if ye can follow it.

Guy goes into a thread about women being reduced to wank fodder for sad cases.

Eh what the fucks goin on here. I bet this is about ma mum moanin again about the state of ma bed sheets. I've fuckin telt her before it's only natural but the moany cow'll no hear it. Ah cannae help if ah've got urges, and it's no ma fault she left they photos of her and the postie under her bed.


That's you that is. That's your brain at it's optimal power.
 
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It's fuckin low effort satire as well pal. In fact, it's no even satire. It's basically you getting pissy and makin a snark thread because you wandered into that other thread and didn't know what the fuck you were going on about.

Here, here's some satire for ye, see if ye can follow it.

Guy goes into a thread about women being reduced to wank fodder for sad cases.

Eh what the fucks goin on here. I bet this is about ma mum moanin again about the state of ma bed sheets. I've fuckin telt her before it's only natural but the moany cow'll no hear it. Ah cannae help if ah've got urges, and it's no ma fault she left they photos of her and the postie under her bed.


That's you that is. That's your brain at it's optimal power.
lol quite a meltdown
 
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lol quite a meltdown
I've done better. I feel I should have gone with my original idea which was about him wandering into Victoria's Secret to complain about his Fleshlight being too large.

Ah fuck it, might as well see what's on Pornhub
 
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No, I don't understand why no one on the left would be against porn but you can't have any sex appeal in something like a video game either.

In fact, I think it's actually unhealthy to ghettoize sexual content only to the realm of literal pornography.

Guy goes into a thread about women being reduced to wank fodder for sad cases.
You are wrong if you think a sexy female video game character is just "being reduced to wank fodder for sad cases"

Characters like that have huge female followings, they like to live vicariously through them, once upon a time in the old days, a superior culture to ours, women owning the idea of being sexual beings was seen as what was empowering, not the literal opposite, a character like the original Lara Croft was seen as empowering because she was also sexy in addition to everything else, not despite of it.

So this is ironically not just all about men, though the fact that men like characters like that as well is why they want it to be taken away.

I think it's also ironically because of the ubiquity of internet pornography, rather than making sex less taboo, because a lot of internet porn is indeed pretty sleazy it's created negative connotations about sex in people's minds, they no longer understand that porn is porn, not the way real sex is.

We as a modern culture do not have a healthy attitude about sex anymore, it's ether going too far into the realm of sleaze or a weird form of puritanism, is there no middle ground?
 
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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
 
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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
Tits and ass are my favourite parts though
 
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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
Most female characters have a little more to them than just their looks, some aspect of the character, even if it's not super deep, that makes them compelling beyond "is hot"

It's SJWs that flip out like you're trying to imitate but from the other side, it's SJWs who yell "OMG SEXIST! BAN THIS SICK FILTH!" while ignoring any and all wider context about a given character and why people like them.

And even if they don't, even if a character is first and foremost just an appealing design, what's the big fuckin' deal? Why does it make some people so upset?

Nobody's saying every female video game character has to be super hot and can't be a little more down to Earth sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with having your cake and eating it too, a female character who is both a compelling character and is beautiful at the same time, it's a reductive attitude to say it has to be only one way.

And even with shallower characters, again, there's room for characters of every kind, there's room for both a Mai from Fatal Fury and an Ellie from Last of Us, it's SJWs that want to dictate what everything can and can't be, not the other side.

What the fuck ever happened to a little variety? Increasingly everything now has to be filtered through the same SJW politically correct lens, it's just lame.
 
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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
Do you want to hear a redpill?

All video games reduce characters into 1 dimensional stereotypes.

Men in FPS games are always cannon fodder. You shoot and kill millions of them with no mercy. They're programmed to kill or be killed.

Am I offended my gender is portrayed as mindless drones constantly being slaughtered? Not really.

Separate fiction from fact. Be the person you want to be in real life. Don't copy virtual pixels and polygons in video games.
 
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Do you want to hear a redpill?

All video games reduce characters into 1 dimensional stereotypes.

Men in FPS games are always cannon fodder. You shoot and kill millions of them with no mercy. They're programmed to kill or be killed.

Am I offended my gender is portrayed as mindless drones constantly being slaughtered? Not really.

Separate fiction from fact. Be the person you want to be in real life. Don't copy virtual pixels and polygons in video games.
This is one aspect of this debate is seems like people have lost the ability to separate fiction from fact.

SJWs really do seem to believe fantasy is reality, the way they talk about these female characters is like a real woman is being "forced" to dress a certain way.
 

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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
Lets tone down the all caps and try to argue coherently otherwise just dont post in this thread there are others.
 
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It's fuckin low effort satire as well pal. In fact, it's no even satire. It's basically you getting pissy and makin a snark thread because you wandered into that other thread and didn't know what the fuck you were going on about.

Here, here's some satire for ye, see if ye can follow it.

Guy goes into a thread about women being reduced to wank fodder for sad cases.

Eh what the fucks goin on here. I bet this is about ma mum moanin again about the state of ma bed sheets. I've fuckin telt her before it's only natural but the moany cow'll no hear it. Ah cannae help if ah've got urges, and it's no ma fault she left they photos of her and the postie under her bed.


That's you that is. That's your brain at it's optimal power.
"Wondered into the other thread", yeah right, I simply read every single page and then decided that you were insane based on your claims.

I didn't wonder on, your premise is that sexualized video game characters somehow equates objectifying real women and treating them like objects.

I made the counter argument that male video game characters are sexualized aswell, by the same devolepers, in the same games, and you dismiss this as being "off-topic" because it shows how full of shit you are.

As funny as your litlle breakdown is (And how easy it was to bait you into it) you really need some help, you can't understand basic logic, you insulted a bunch of people in the other thread after they try and awnser your bogus claims because calling people mysogynists is the only thing you have to say, that's not an argument.
 
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I think everytime anyone watches porn, they should click a button that sends a message to the performers that they are about to watch them have sex and they should then wait for the performers to give consent and then they can proceed. The performers at that moment might not want anyone to look at their nude bodies, or worse, masturbate while watching them so consent needs to be given.
 
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A hundred billion dollar middle finger to an idea, that one has a realistic shot to somehow curb or control how people (mostly men?) are naturally inclined to perceive other people, especially strangers; often as not much more then (or at least also as) potentially interesting sexual partners/"sexual objects".

People should certainly have safe spaces where this natural inclination cannot negatively affect their lives (work spaces etc.) but complaining over "objectification" in general, vilifying people (mostly men?) over it and trying to dictate how people should "properly" regard other people/strangers (or, you know, imaginary characters) is nothing but pretentious, misguided, dare I say toxic waste of everyone's time. Might as well complain why grass is green.
 
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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
I actually thought that question was satirical just like the OP... but then I read the Caps. smh
Please, do tell, what character (video game) is "just a pair of giant tits and ass"?
 
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hey guys can characters not just be a pair of giant tits and ass ?


OMG FUCKIN SJW HATE SEXY WOMEN WHY ARE SHAMING PEOPLE THERE NOT REAL STOP BEING A PRUDE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE DD AND ALSO HAS BIG KIM ASS WITH AN HOUR GLASS AND THEY SAY THERE COOL FUCKIN LEFT CUCKS TRYING TO MAKE BEING MASCULINE BAD ?
Quit fucking trying to tell people what to do with their art. If they want to make sexu chicks, that's their prerogative. If you want to see non sexualized female characters, then play games that feature non sexualized female characters, or MAKE YOUR OWN GAME. As a game creator, you ain't telling me what to put in my game. You ain't telling me how to write my own characters. You want somethibg, do it yourself or seek out those who have already done it.
 
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"Wondered into the other thread", yeah right, I simply read every single page and then decided that you were insane based on your claims.

I didn't wonder on, your premise is that sexualized video game characters somehow equates objectifying real women and treating them like objects.

I made the counter argument that male video game characters are sexualized aswell, by the same devolepers, in the same games, and you dismiss this as being "off-topic" because it shows how full of shit you are.

As funny as your litlle breakdown is (And how easy it was to bait you into it) you really need some help, you can't understand basic logic, you insulted a bunch of people in the other thread after they try and awnser your bogus claims because calling people mysogynists is the only thing you have to say, that's not an argument.
No. My premise was not video game characters equates objectifying women. There's your first mistake and again a clear example that you just wandered in and started spouting nonsense.

Your "counter argument" was to go buh buh buh whatabout men. In a thread about the objectification of women. I said to you if your so concerned about men being objectified make a thread about it.

Didn't call anyone a mysoginist.

Me takin the piss out of your whiney snark thread isn't a "breakdown." That's just me laughing at your whiney snark thread.

Here, let's just summon it all up for you.

Guy is so fragile and threatened that when he sees a thread about women not liking being reduced to wank fodder. He rushes into that thread about women being reduced to wank fodder and starts screaming BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN. After he gets fuckin told he rushes off and starts a hey guize lookit me bein all satirical n not totally butthurt thread.

Then the smartarse who sent him spinning comes into his buttrage thread and paints a scenario of our fragile friend being caught by his mum masturbating in dirty, stained sheets to photos of her and the postie.

Our fragile friend clearly doesn't understand the incredibly subtle subtext and thinks it's a "breakdown."

Now then oh satirical one, in 50 paragraphs or more please describe your mum.
 
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No. My premise was not video game characters equates objectifying women. There's your first mistake and again a clear example that you just wandered in and started spouting nonsense.

Your "counter argument" was to go buh buh buh whatabout men. In a thread about the objectification of women. I said to you if your so concerned about men being objectified make a thread about it.

Didn't call anyone a mysoginist.

Me takin the piss out of your whiney snark thread isn't a "breakdown." That's just me laughing at your whiney snark thread.

Here, let's just summon it all up for you.

Guy is so fragile and threatened that when he sees a thread about women not liking being reduced to wank fodder. He rushes into that thread about women being reduced to wank fodder and starts screaming BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN. After he gets fuckin told he rushes off and starts a hey guize lookit me bein all satirical n not totally butthurt thread.

Then the smartarse who sent him spinning comes into his buttrage thread and paints a scenario of our fragile friend being caught by his mum masturbating in dirty, stained sheets to photos of her and the postie.

Our fragile friend clearly doesn't understand the incredibly subtle subtext and thinks it's a "breakdown."

Now then oh satirical one, in 50 paragraphs or more please describe your mum.
That's exactly your argument, you're equating sexualized video game characters to, in your own words "women being reduced to wank fodder". I try, nicely, to explain to you, that the devolepers aren't sexualizing female characters because they're evil lonely man that want to opress women, but because game developers tend to sexualize all characters.

I didn't point out that men are just sexualized in games because I care that man are sexualized in games, I pointed it out because it shows that, again, your argument is full of shit, if the reason female video game characters are sexualized is because of male game devolopers, then why are their male counterparts equally as sexualized?

"smartarse" " incredibly subtle subtext"- You give yourself way too much credit if you think your first post was anything close to subtle and your fixation on my mom is kinda weird dude, 12 year olds are usually the ones who resort to insult others moms.
 
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We as a modern culture do not have a healthy attitude about sex anymore, it's ether going too far into the realm of sleaze or a weird form of puritanism, is there no middle ground?
It is more like sleazy puritanism.

The great irony is that the puritans had healthier sexual proclivities than we likely do in this modern era in many ways. They believed that sex was an important foundation for keeping a marriage healthy. These days, the idea that marriage partners are obligated to one another sexually is outright "problematic".
 
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That's exactly your argument, you're equating sexualized video game characters to, in your own words "women being reduced to wank fodder". I try, nicely, to explain to you, that the devolepers aren't sexualizing female characters because they're evil lonely man that want to opress women, but because game developers tend to sexualize all characters.

I didn't point out that men are just sexualized in games because I care that man are sexualized in games, I pointed it out because it shows that, again, your argument is full of shit, if the reason female video game characters are sexualized is because of male game devolopers, then why are their male counterparts equally as sexualized?

"smartarse" " incredibly subtle subtext"- You give yourself way too much credit if you think your first post was anything close to subtle and your fixation on my mom is kinda weird dude, 12 year olds are usually the ones who resort to insult others moms.
Here you what's all this pish? I told ye to write 50 paragraphs about your mum and maybe throw in a few photos (none of your NSFW ones by the way. Keep it clean.) Now away to your sordid grief hole and dae that then maybe we'll decide if your able to comprehend the vast difference between art and exploitation, which it has to be said, isnae looking likely at this moment but never let it be said am no an optimist.

Now hurry up you ah've no got all day. Some of us have got porn channels tae surf ye know
 
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Here you what's all this pish? I told ye to write 50 paragraphs about your mum and maybe throw in a few photos (none of your NSFW ones by the way. Keep it clean.) Now away to your sordid grief hole and dae that then maybe we'll decide if your able to comprehend the vast difference between art and exploitation, which it has to be said, isnae looking likely at this moment but never let it be said am no an optimist.

Now hurry up you ah've no got all day. Some of us have got porn channels tae surf ye know
I'll keep disregarding your immature comments.

You haven't actually tried to present any arguments, you just keep throwing out insults and hope that somehow proves you're right.
Art and exploitation? Tell me, explain to me, and everyone else, how exactly having sexualized video game characters is "exploitation" in any way.

You want the whole world to abide by your rule, a loud minority that wants to tell everyone else what they like isn't ok and you aren't even capable of presenting any type of rational argument.

If you want to actually have a decent argument go ahead, if you want to keep projecting your feelings about your mother to me I think this conversation can end now.
 
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Here you what's all this pish? I told ye to write 50 paragraphs about your mum and maybe throw in a few photos (none of your NSFW ones by the way. Keep it clean.) Now away to your sordid grief hole and dae that then maybe we'll decide if your able to comprehend the vast difference between art and exploitation, which it has to be said, isnae looking likely at this moment but never let it be said am no an optimist.

Now hurry up you ah've no got all day. Some of us have got porn channels tae surf ye know
Keep defending the honor of these poor sexualized women knight Snoopy, im sure one day one of them will reward your courageous forum posting acts.



You will not get rewarded.
 
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Amazing how it appears physical appearance alone qualifies what is a woman or not a woman in the eyes of some.

The left says biological sex is not gender. Gender is a social construct, there can be women that look like men and men that look like women. Yet they want to OWN and PROTECT the female shape. Why? Because attractive young females catch men's gaze, so because men like it is wrong.

A morbidly obese middle age woman scantily dressed and exposing her bare chest that is highly empowering. A young attractive woman in sexy clothes, that is objectification and wrong. If it repulses men it is good if it pleases men it is bad.

Know that the human body, the human shape, does not belong to anyone. Within art, it can be used as anyone pleases.

Even after puberty from young ages, girls rank each other and know who is most attractive. Teenage boys know what they like. This is not molded by TV or games, doesn't matter what you put on TV or games, it won't change the innate drives for youth and fitness signalled by greater beauty and attractiveness.

The blank slate is nonsense, there are innate drives, and innate likes and dislikes.
 
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Amazing how it appears physical appearance alone qualifies what is a woman or not a woman in the eyes of some.

The left says biological sex is not gender. Gender is a social construct, there can be women that look like men and men that look like women. Yet they want to OWN and PROTECT the female shape. Why? Because attractive young females catch men's gaze, so because men like it is wrong.

A morbidly obese middle age woman scantily dressed and exposing her bare chest that is highly empowering. A young attractive woman in sexy clothes, that is objectification and wrong. If it repulses men it is good if it pleases men it is bad.

Know that the human body, the human shape, does not belong to anyone. Within art, it can be used as anyone pleases.

Even after puberty from young ages, girls rank each other and know who is most attractive. Teenage boys know what they like. This is not molded by TV or games, doesn't matter what you put on TV or games, it won't change the innate drives for youth and fitness signalled by greater beauty and attractiveness.

The blank slate is nonsense, there are innate drives, and innate likes and dislikes.
 
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It is more like sleazy puritanism.

The great irony is that the puritans had healthier sexual proclivities than we likely do in this modern era in many ways. They believed that sex was an important foundation for keeping a marriage healthy. These days, the idea that marriage partners are obligated to one another sexually is outright "problematic".
It's important to remember that there's never before been a mainstream society in all of human history that didn't expect people not to have sex at all, just sex in a very specific context (marriage) and was a little hush hush about it from general polite conversation.

But even the most diehard Puritans from centuries ago were still doing it.

Amazing how it appears physical appearance alone qualifies what is a woman or not a woman in the eyes of some.

The left says biological sex is not gender. Gender is a social construct, there can be women that look like men and men that look like women. Yet they want to OWN and PROTECT the female shape. Why? Because attractive young females catch men's gaze, so because men like it is wrong.

A morbidly obese middle age woman scantily dressed and exposing her bare chest that is highly empowering. A young attractive woman in sexy clothes, that is objectification and wrong. If it repulses men it is good if it pleases men it is bad.

Know that the human body, the human shape, does not belong to anyone. Within art, it can be used as anyone pleases.

Even after puberty from young ages, girls rank each other and know who is most attractive. Teenage boys know what they like. This is not molded by TV or games, doesn't matter what you put on TV or games, it won't change the innate drives for youth and fitness signalled by greater beauty and attractiveness.

The blank slate is nonsense, there are innate drives, and innate likes and dislikes.
It just comes to the fact that whatever men like = bad and whatever they don't like = good.

This comic sums it all up.

And it's a worldview that doesn't make any sense unless you take into account that it's a worldview ihenrelty predicated on anti-maleness.

Because men like characters like the panel above, they're bad, but if a woman so chooses herself to be topless in public then by all means she can go for it.

Meanwhile men certainly can't choose what they like and dislike of course.
 
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I think there is room for everything. If you are offended by sexy women on your games or other media, than just play or watch something else, there are alternatives. Most women I know aren't actually offended by it. I had to watch 50 Shades of Gray, because my wife wanted it. I would rather stab needles on my eyes for 2 hours...