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Pach attack: shut up nintendo fan and go buy Wii U
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all those original FPS , RPG'S , MMOA for PC/PS360 , Im not even going to mention yearly updated sports titles.
Nintendo actually come out on top when it comes to not re-hashing things
So Pachter is saying that fans should buy a wiiu hoping that something good comes out after they bought it?
Sorry but i tried this with the wii and the results are evident for everyone...
They are doing absolutely nothing for people to make them buy a wiiu and they have lost tons and tons of trust from ex fans.
Sorry but i tried this with the wii and the results are evident for everyone...
They are doing absolutely nothing for people to make them buy a wiiu and they have lost tons and tons of trust from ex fans.
Phoenician_Viking
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Haha, this must be a joke.
That's exactly true.
Next time we have an Iwata thread, I wanna see the receipts or you blind faithful can stfu!
No receipt = not allowed to say anything positive about Iwata.
Already we've had countless "nintnedo fans" in this thread that have admitted that Iwata has failed.
This is the first step in their rehabilitation back into mainstream gaming!
In 2014 I will buy one
What were these "evident results"? Cuz the Wii was a wonderful system. Certainly a fantastic Nintendo machine.
What were these "evident results"? Cuz the Wii was a wonderful system. Certainly a fantastic Nintendo machine.
PdotMichael
Banned
well, he talked about Nintendo fans who complain that Wii U doesn't get enough support/attention/love etc.
I don't see what's wrong is with the statement.
I don't see what's wrong is with the statement.
I am nintendo #1 fan, and didn't buy the 3DS until the 3DS XL as I saw coming the disastrous launch, and still not buying the WiiU as they still manage it poorly.
You can be a fan and discerning!
Then your not a Nintendo fan, never mind a no1 fan.
Your more like someone who owned a Nintendo console once and wanks off occasionally to Iwata Luigi hat pictures.
But that's cos your a sick freak.
You lost me here. What do you feel Miiverse is supposed to be? A edgy hard-talk discussion site? It's the equivalent of the "friend activity" on steam, and does a great job as such, in my humble opinion. It should contain more automated information, like "Amir0x has recently been playing Pikmin 3" etc though.
And if you look forward to Bayo2, I really do hope you give W101 a fair shot. It's my goty so far
As a feature that is one of Nintendo's core and unique elements to their whole online approaches with the Wii U, I simply expect it to be something I actually want to participate in. Instead, it's actively cloying. It's a conglomerate of people who doggedly refuse to say anything negative, or when they do cloak the criticism in such sugary nonsense that it's basically like feeling your teeth rot from the inside out.
Do I need it to be a raucous place with sailor talk and tables being thrown at one another? No. Do I need it to feel like a place that fosters intelligent and even handed discussion, negativity and positivity in relatively balanced order? Yes. At least, something in the BALLPARK. This is just Nintendo dick grabbing 101, non-stop, 24 hours a day. It's actively painful to have to read any Miiverse comment. The only thing that is ever neat is those images, but you know what that novelty wore itself out ages ago for me. For me, it doesn't even serve a purpose it's so bad.
But that said, it's not like I care. I don't use the feature, haven't for ages. It was so bad I simply ignore it now. The reason I specifically mentioned it was because this is one of the elements that makes the Wii U 'distinctive' and is frequently used as a part of a package of things that makes the system appealing [in theory]. So I was saying that it's a nightmare, so I can't conceive of it ever being a real bulletpoint that can sell the system.
As for Wonderful 101, already played it thoroughly. I liked it a lot, but I will say I had some pretty major criticisms. It was one of my more anticipated games for the year but it'll probably end up just outside my top ten for the year now that I've actually played it. Pikmin 3 is higher up on my list.
My thing is that especially if you're going to have a smaller userbase, it's important to have a tight, interconnected community for which you can cause a good word-of-mouth to build. But hey have so few real compelling and unique online experiences for the moment, much less from Nintendo themselves, that it's a real problem. People who are interested in those types of experiences might soon become conditioned to look elsewhere, which is not a position Nintendo wants to be in.
So I hope they can come up with some idea that is more complimentary to the Wii U than Wii Sports HD for a online system seller type of a game. Mario Kart should sell pretty damn well, at least, as should Smash.
...do you occasionally read the shit you write?
Kung Fu in Game & Wario
Re: Wii U. He's right, Nintendo fans should buy it if they're a Nintendo fan. I bought it.
Re: MN9: His answer seemed pretty lost. Expected more.
My answer? There's no claim. Sure, there are general similarities. But it's not the same characters, not the same story, not the same code. You can't sue on "general similarities". If you could, most of our toys and video games and most of everything else for that matter would be sued.
Re: MN9: His answer seemed pretty lost. Expected more.
My answer? There's no claim. Sure, there are general similarities. But it's not the same characters, not the same story, not the same code. You can't sue on "general similarities". If you could, most of our toys and video games and most of everything else for that matter would be sued.
Ugh, please don't.
all the Nintendo fans already have WiiU's they got it at launch & are still waiting for content, nobody is buying the games that get released anyway, Black Ops 2, Splinter Cell, W101, NFS-MW etc didn't sell & HD Mario, Pikmin, Zelda & the rest of Nintendo games just being in HD is not enough
i am considering switching my WatchDogs DeadSec version from WiiU to X360 because of the multiplayer so that is another lost sale for Ubi, they lost a sale of Rayman because of the delay, i have learned my lesson now after buying all the Nintendo consoles since the NES it is time for me to move on, i have seen & played everything Nintendo has to offer, i am not interested in HD-remakes or rehashes of old games anymore, with GTA5 tiding me over i should of used the money i spent on my WiiU for a PS4, the WiiU is the last Nintendo console i will by at launch, if not ever.
i am considering switching my WatchDogs DeadSec version from WiiU to X360 because of the multiplayer so that is another lost sale for Ubi, they lost a sale of Rayman because of the delay, i have learned my lesson now after buying all the Nintendo consoles since the NES it is time for me to move on, i have seen & played everything Nintendo has to offer, i am not interested in HD-remakes or rehashes of old games anymore, with GTA5 tiding me over i should of used the money i spent on my WiiU for a PS4, the WiiU is the last Nintendo console i will by at launch, if not ever.
PlumCantaloupe
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This is the first time I have watched a "Pach-Attack", and though he brings up a good point why would anyone want to watch yet another "I am going to insult everyone with trivial insults and they are going to love it"
opinion piece.
Why internet why? It didn't come across as funny at all. Do we really think so low of ourselves?
opinion piece.
Why internet why? It didn't come across as funny at all. Do we really think so low of ourselves?
Why do you say he has a personal vendetta against a CEO?
Everytime Nintendo is the topic of discussion he feels compelled to take a shot at Iwata. He doesn't like Iwata as CEO, which is fine, but recently he's going out of his way to take shots on him. If its not a vendetta I don't know what his motivation is.
It's kinda like seeing the usual suspects shitting up every Nintendo-related thread with driveby comments. Initially they were your usual blowoff troll fare but seeing it in every single thread is kinda pathetic. Thank god I discovered the ignore feature.
I'd agree with your point if mentioning Iwata was relevant to many of the topics he discusses. Lately however, they haven't been and he's throwing them out there for no reason. Imagine if someone like Jack Tretton was talking about Xbox One and randomly said "eat shit Mattrick." It'd be completely out of the way and absolutely uncalled for. That's what's starting to happen here with Pachter.
PlumCantaloupe
Member
Well the "tell him to stand on a box" comment was completely unnecessary and in bad taste.
Probably entertainment since so many actively listen to him now. I don't think he has anything personal against Iwata, he just sees him as an atrocious CEO.
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Deleted member 125677
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Well, what about all the end region lock campaigning and 60hz version for vc titles that has been going on? How does that fit into your dickgrabbing picture?
As for comments about the games themselves, I sort of agree, but who buys a Wii U? And who takes the time to participate in miiverse to some degree?? Of course it's going to be like an official sites fan forums. I don't see it as a locus for having intelligent and critical discussion over a game. Luckily we have GAF for that.
It's all about what you expect from it I guess
I use it primarily to ask for advice, to share images and to catch up on what my friend list are doing, just like in Steam.
EventHorizon
Member
No, Pachter is saying the Wii U is a dead console but is leaving that as an exercise for listener to figure out.
(Fans not buying Wii U until more support) + (Nintendo not giving support until more fans buying) = Unsupported console with low sales
Freezie KO
Banned
I think he bullies all the children equally. Apparently we all hate children.
Are you saying there is nothing good on the Wii?Plenty of good games are out/ are coming out on the Wii U as well.
I'm buying one October 31st when that sweet deal in Japan comes.
It has nothing to do with being a Nintendo fan (despite being one), it's about being confident that I'm getting value for my money. Wii Fit U, NSMBU and Wii Party U do that for me.
It's amazing how you (by you I mean me) forget all this console wars stuff since last generation was so long.
It has nothing to do with being a Nintendo fan (despite being one), it's about being confident that I'm getting value for my money. Wii Fit U, NSMBU and Wii Party U do that for me.
It's amazing how you (by you I mean me) forget all this console wars stuff since last generation was so long.
plenty of good games coming out for the X1 & PS4 to, choice is simple buy a WiiU for a few Mario HD games or a PS4/X1 for the next-gen.
i have a WiiU & regret buying it.
gothamghost
Member
I am one of the "four" people who own a Wii U and I love it.
I kind of agree with his sentiment, although I don't think you should buy something on blind faith, I do agree with "put your money where your mouth is."
A lot of people are saying they are waiting for the games to come out, well if you don't have a Wii U yet there are enough games to make the system worthwhile at this point.
I kind of agree with his sentiment, although I don't think you should buy something on blind faith, I do agree with "put your money where your mouth is."
A lot of people are saying they are waiting for the games to come out, well if you don't have a Wii U yet there are enough games to make the system worthwhile at this point.
Interceptor
Banned
Brera. Owning a Wii U may give you the right to criticize the console wherever you can but i guess you are confusing it with the right to talk nonsens all the time.
Wich is kind of weird... I mean pachter is a business analyst and in the end iwata is kind of good at making money.
Maybe he thinks nintendo could make lot more money ?
Want a complete response? here's your complete response, i avoided it because this shit is in every thread about the wii of the past 6 years but whatever if you really need it hear the same thing over and over again and want to turn this discussion in one of the other ten thousand endless discussion on why the wii is bad/good who am i to stop you? Here we go:
It is out of this world that the leading console in terms of sales have a so poor and scarce line up of games, wii lineup is bad in many different levels they don't only have a complete lack of third party games but the only 2 somewhat important ones that it has (namely DQX and MH3) are essentially "bought" and one of them wasn't even released worldwide.
But hey it isn't stopping here! The third parties aren't the only problems for this console Nintendo has its fair share of fault too!
They pretty much haven't released anything worth of note for 2 years and then there is the biggest problem of all... the games designed around the system or to put it better the games that are the cause of why the system is like it is (6 years old graphics, non traditional controls etc etc) are only 2, one came out on launch (wii sport) and the other at the end of 2011 (Skyward Swords). Two games to justify a console that was already old in every way in 2006-7 when all the others would have had way more benefits with an hardware from the competitors.
I would have way much more stuff to talk about (online management of the games, titles that the console needed in moments of drought not released on all the regions etc.) but i don't have neither the time nor the spirit to do so since it's been discussed to death.
Oh and don't try to act superior, no one is better than no one around here.
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Use a toilet for stuff like this please.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
At this point only die hard Nintendo fans and some casuals have bought it. There's still not enough of a robust lineup for the time it has been around. And the internal storage is garbage. They need to start putting in a 500GB HDD and fix their online account system before I ever buy anything digital from them.
Exactly same sentiments, hence why holding off buying a Wii U, right now PC+3DS gamer, probably all I really need till Smash or X comes out :O.
He's not really good at it for the past few years, don't you agree? Someone with a decent and profound strategy could have avoided the initial 3DS issues and the complete Wii U disaster.
This issue here isn't me critizing the WiiU/Current Nintendo.
It's people on here defending him and his decisions till the cows come how yet they themselves don't believe in him, his products and vision!
I do agree but this other someone may not have come with the ideas that made DS, Wii, 3DS the success they are.
What do past successes matter for the future? You don't keep a soccer trainer who won the championship twice when he keeps sitting on the couch instead of working, which results in the team losing every game.
And compared to the DS, the 3DS is trailing far behind and is unlikely to catch up anytime soon.
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