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[azz0r]

I'd buy a PS3 if it cost as much as a 360.

 

[artredis1980]

when r the numbers officially coming out?

 

[spwolf]

I'd buy a PS3 if it cost as much as a 360.

Elite? :lol

 

[Vyse]

Launch price of the PS3 was a big mistake. I remember finding a PS3 on launch week at Best Buy and picked it up. On the way home I called my wife and told her how lucky I was to find one. She was like "oh no you didn't just spend 700 on a video game system (got a game as well). The PS3 went right back to Best Buy along with my dignity and self respect. Still waiting for my PS3.

 

[Hawk269]

Yeah, its reasons like this that people really shoudn't have made such a big deal out of "PS3 outsells 360 for most of 2008 in the US" because the amount was so small. With the price cut and expected holiday sales, a 275k lead can be overcome very easily. ESPECIALLY when you consider the state of the economy in the US alone. I'm so poor ....

Good point. I think too many of the Sony Fanboys were thinking that the PS3 would just trounce the 360, but if the lead was only 275k for the year and it appears that the 360 just cut a good 125k into that lead, that is not saying much for what Sony claims. It seems like the Sony Fanboys are ingnoring the fact that MS has that massive 1 year lead on them. In order for the PS3 to dent the 360, they would of had to been close to a million or so units ahead at this time of the year.

I predict that by the end of the year, the 360 will have a good 500k or more lead over the PS3 for 2008 alone. With the Holiday Bundles, regardless of what GAF thinks of the games in the bundle, consumers will preceive it as a great value. Same price, but I get two games...that is very powerfull and combine that with MS's most aggressive ad campaign in some time that is going to be rough for the PS3.

I know that the 360 outselling the Ps3 for 4 weeks in a row is possibly just a fluke, but compelling nonetheless because now they are getting beat in all territories (again).

 

[Spiegel]

Well, in Japan they did lower the price after E3 and before the launch... even added more value by putting HDMI in the 20 gig were it normally wouldn't have been. That was a first ever in gaming history... lowering the price of the unit before it even launched?

In Europe Gamecube had a pricedrop (from 249€ to 199 €) two weeks before being released.

 

[LM4sure]

really? aren't stand alone BluRay players cheaper than PS3's these days? ...and do people adopt a medium for one movie?

great questions. you're right. tdk will NOT push ps3's. to assume it will is hiliarious.

 

[Guy Legend]

Pretty sure the N64 dropped a $100 between being announced and release in the USA, if I'm remembering correctly.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

They certainly cant release PS3 without wireless, hard drive, batteries, etc, etc.

I'm not sure I follow that they can't release a PS3 without wireless... because they already have in the past.

In Europe Gamecube had a pricedrop (from 249€ to 199 €) two weeks before being released.

But wasn't GameCube already released in JPN and the US before that? I should have clarified that it was the first time to drop before the system ever hit retail. The PS3 had ever been released anywhere in the world and they dropped the price. That is what I meant.

 

[B-Rad Lascelle]

I really dont see what Sony can do - except to better educate people why $400 for PS3 is good value.

They certainly cant release PS3 without wireless, hard drive, batteries, etc, etc.

They could always lobby the movie industry to release movies onto BluRay FIRST before DVD. There's an outside of the box tactic they haven't employed yet. :lol

 

[FirstInHell]

This thread confirms the reason why Sony is losing this generation. The discussion is degrading into an argument about the impact Blu-Ray is having on the system's sales figures.

You people are depending on movies to be the main driver for sales of a gaming platform.

 

[duk]

How many units have PS3 outsold 360 this year NPD?

300k is pretty good but I was hoping for more. We'll see later this week.

 

[PantherLotus]

We just got you people'd.

 

[Stumpokapow]

How many units have PS3 outsold 360 this year NPD?

300k is pretty good but I was hoping for more. We'll see later this week.

Already answered this question earlier in the thread.

when r the numbers officially coming out?

Thursday.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

This thread confirms the reason why Sony is losing this generation. The discussion is degrading into an argument about the impact Blu-Ray is having on the system's sales figures.

You people are depending on movies to be the main driver for sales of a gaming platform.

And yet Nintendo is the one killing gaming. It's really amazing when you think about it...

 

[charlequin]

Got a link to back up your assertion about failure rate?

The rate of RRoD-related permanent failure recorded in the "My 360 died" thread is something like 1/100th for Falcons over a one year period, compared to original-model 360s over that system's first year of release. While this thread is not a scientific study, it collects a large amount of data and did accurately reflect the very real RRoD problem with the original models. Put bluntly, what was one an unacceptably ginormous console death problem has unquestionably receded to a within-normal-parameters failure rate as a result of hardware revision.

 

[kiUNiT]

The rate of RRoD-related permanent failure recorded in the "My 360 died" thread is something like 1/100th for Falcons over a one year period, compared to original-model 360s over that system's first year of release. While this thread is not a scientific study, it collects a large amount of data and did accurately reflect the very real RRoD problem with the original models. Put bluntly, what was one an unacceptably ginormous console death problem has unquestionably receded to a within-normal-parameters failure rate as a result of hardware revision.

Yea and I thought the Sony fanboi's would have let the every 360 dies bullshit die when the 360 fanboi's let the PS3 has no games meme go. But what else are you gonna pick on the 360 for, not much left oh wait no built in wireless or standard harddrive and live will cost you $500.00 over 10 years. WTF why are more people buying 360s than PS3s? oh yea games.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

This thread confirms the reason why Sony is losing this generation. The discussion is degrading into an argument about the impact Blu-Ray is having on the system's sales figures.

You people are depending on movies to be the main driver for sales of a gaming platform.

Uhh, the PS3 is obviously a computer and should be compared sales-wise to Dell, Apple, etc.

 

[Classic_Gs]

Dark Knight Blu-Ray will probably push more PS3's than Resistance 2...

Quoted because its true.

 

[PantherLotus]

Uhh, the PS3 is obviously a computer and should be compared sales-wise to Dell, Apple, etc.

I don't think ANYBODY wants to see that comparison.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I don't think ANYBODY wants to see that comparison.

That would be murder of the worst kind.

Like the PS2 versus the GCN... except worse.

 

[Maxwell House]

If Sony doesn't price drop, they better bundle something in the 80gb (LBP). Also bring out the white system here.

Yeah, I agree about releasing the white system. It can only help boost sales. I wonder why Sony isn't doing that over here?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Props to JoshuaJSlone--I aspire to be like him when I grow up . . .

 

[HK-47]

:lol

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Such intensity and rage in his eyes.

I think he wishes you death Josh.

 

[BakedPigeon]

Why do we care what Pachter says? He is wrong so many times, I don't get why people act like he is a great predictor.

I think PS3, 360 will be less and Wii will be more.

Why should we believe you? You probably don't know shit compared to pachter and his research firm.

 

[Jonnyram]

PS3 price cut incoming.

Alongside the redesign and FFVII remake, no doubt.

 

[_Angelus_]

PS3 price drop?
Hell let's get the 9/9/09 Sega campaign going again as well.

 

[PantherLotus]

PS3 price drop?
Hell let's get the 9/9/09 Sega campaign going again as well.

...except a PS3 price drop actually makes sense. Funny that you'd put SEGA and SONY in the same breath, though.

 

[FrankT]

Alongside the redesign and FFVII remake, no doubt.

zing :lol

 

[Jamesfrom818]

I totally missed that Pachter post.

 

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btw, this thread reminds me of Mama Robotnik. I haven't seen him in a while, what happened to him? I hope he's available for the NPD day.

 

[Tom Penny]

Odds are the PS3 will not outsell the X360 in the US in any month for a long long time.

 

[Paracelsus]

Odds are the PS3 will not outsell the X360 in the US in any month for a long long time.

Three months are a long long time now?

 

[Nolan.]

Alongside the redesign and FFVII remake port, no doubt.

At this point the revised is more likely.

 

[Psychotext]

Three months are a long long time now?

Only if you're a Sony shareholder, fanboy or director.

 

[dammitmattt]

Launch price of the PS3 was a big mistake. I remember finding a PS3 on launch week at Best Buy and picked it up. On the way home I called my wife and told her how lucky I was to find one. She was like "oh no you didn't just spend 700 on a video game system (got a game as well). The PS3 went right back to Best Buy along with my dignity and self respect. Still waiting for my PS3.

As a newly married man with a new house and less disposable income than I've had in years, I'm not looking forward to having this conversation when the next generation rolls around.

 

[dammitmattt]

Three months are a long long time now?

He means going forward, which is possible at the current price points and lack of mainstream killer apps for the PS3.

 

[Dragon]

As a newly married man with a new house and less disposable income than I've had in years, I'm not looking forward to having this conversation when the next generation rolls around.

Congratulations. Oh c'mon a guy still needs his hobbies!

 

[dammitmattt]

Congratulations. Oh c'mon a guy still needs his hobbies!

True, but I might not be able to justify a PS3-like purchase on day one again....although on the bright side, my game purchases have only slowed down a small bit. I think it's easier to justify $60 every week or two than $700+ at once!

 

[Kilrogg]

While I do agree, I think companies will keep trying anyway. Even if the odds of success are 1 in 1000, the potential payoff is enormous: gaining a foothold, perhaps even a monopolistic one, in the phone, internet browser, music player, and game market simultaneously with one device is so tempting that I suspect many companies can't resist, even in the face of empirical data cautioning otherwise.

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about that: how does Nintendo fit in that equation, if at all? Do you, like Malstrom for instance, think Nintendo isn't aiming for convergence with, say, the DSi? Do you believe that they're playing it smart and don't actually try to compete with the PSP/iPod/iPhone? I've got my own thoughts on the subject (i.e. Nintendo will expand beyond gaming, but they won't go for the convergence route), but I want to know yours.

 

[Count Dookkake]

btw, this thread reminds me of Mama Robotnik. I haven't seen him in a while, what happened to him? I hope he's available for the NPD day.

Probably hard at work to bring laffs.

 

[Oblivion]

Although I'm looking forward to NPD as always, it's hard to be as excited for this one. Is there anything of worthy note that people are expecting for September?

The real fun'll begin with November's NPD. Someone needs to make a trailer for it like with November 2006's NPD. It'll be legendary.

 

[Version 3.0]

But wasn't GameCube already released in JPN and the US before that? I should have clarified that it was the first time to drop before the system ever hit retail. The PS3 had ever been released anywhere in the world and they dropped the price. That is what I meant.

Nintendo dropped the N64 from $250 to $199 before it released. I was a happy guy that day: I picked up my N64, Mario 64, and Pilotwings 64 and got a $50 return from Babbages as well, since I'd already paid the pre-order in full.

But I don't know if Nintendo did the same in Japan, where it had been released a few months earlier.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Although I'm looking forward to NPD as always, it's hard to be as excited for this one. Is there anything of worthy note that people are expecting for September?

The 360 price cut seems to be the main event in this NPD.

 

[HK-47]

btw, this thread reminds me of Mama Robotnik. I haven't seen him in a while, what happened to him? I hope he's available for the NPD day.

Hiding from Segata

 

[Oblivion]

The 360 price cut seems to be the main event in this NPD.

There was a price drop? Shit, I am out of the loop. :lol

 

[Version 3.0]

Although I'm looking forward to NPD as always, it's hard to be as excited for this one. Is there anything of worthy note that people are expecting for September?

The impact of the 360 price drop, of course.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

There was a price drop? Shit, I am out of the loop. :lol

There was enough of a price drop that my cheap ass has a 360 now!

$199 Sony or no monkey ownership for you!

 

[Paracelsus]

199$ PS3?

Maybe we will never see that price point for the PS3. Probably in the very end of this generation, when/IF a bluray standalone player will cost less than 100$.