I enjoyed the movie. I thought it was funny and I enjoyed the acting in it. I never really knew about this case to begin with so after watching this movie, I did some research on it. Man, it really is a fucked up story and it blew my mind that some of the scenes actually happened. It's insane.
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Pain & Gain is "just so wrong on every possible level"
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This thread made me check out the movie.
Frankly, beyond whether it's appropriate, offensive and whatnot, what it is is yet another shitty Michael Bay movie. One thing Kermode is 100% on the money is that the man has no sense of humor. His idea of a joke involves penises, sex, tits, ass or a combination of all four. Without any semblance of wit or cleverness, of course. And since it's presented as a black comedy, it kinda fell flat for me. I think describing Michael Bay's film-making sensibilities as pornographic is about right. :lol Marky Mark does give an energetic performance, he did try his best.
Frankly, beyond whether it's appropriate, offensive and whatnot, what it is is yet another shitty Michael Bay movie. One thing Kermode is 100% on the money is that the man has no sense of humor. His idea of a joke involves penises, sex, tits, ass or a combination of all four. Without any semblance of wit or cleverness, of course. And since it's presented as a black comedy, it kinda fell flat for me. I think describing Michael Bay's film-making sensibilities as pornographic is about right. :lol Marky Mark does give an energetic performance, he did try his best.
This thread made me check out the flick as well. One thing it did for me though is made me appreciate Dwayne Johnson, the man has charisma and gave a great performance. And i have to say Mark Wahlberg was well cast as well.
I have to agree with what one poster said about "imagine if it was your mother or father that got protrayed like this" i dont know if the two people who actually died had children though.
But it is a little bit insensitive since most of the people involved are still alive. That said, i kinda liked it.
I have to agree with what one poster said about "imagine if it was your mother or father that got protrayed like this" i dont know if the two people who actually died had children though.
But it is a little bit insensitive since most of the people involved are still alive. That said, i kinda liked it.
DigitalDevilSummoner
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I still, in all honesty, cannot understand why would someone dislike the Transformers movies. Unless you don't like transformers altogether. Pain and gain was pretty good too.
This movie really is very good, there's a lot to get from it.
One thing not to get from it is anything related to any kind of true story. Just take it as "Michael Bay's friend read the NYT review of a book about a true story, then drunkenly related it to Michael Bay three months later at a party five years before Michael Bay made the movie based on his memory of that telling."
Watch it as a double-feature with Spring Breakers.
One thing not to get from it is anything related to any kind of true story. Just take it as "Michael Bay's friend read the NYT review of a book about a true story, then drunkenly related it to Michael Bay three months later at a party five years before Michael Bay made the movie based on his memory of that telling."
Watch it as a double-feature with Spring Breakers.
AuthenticM
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Yeah, I can believe the film being offensive for the people involved, but on its own, it's terrific. Probably Bay's finest.
God what the hell was that about? I put that on on a fridaynight with my friends to pre-booz before going out to party. We didnt even finish it because we all got down and depressed jesus...
turbosnail
Banned
It was surprisingly not bad for a bay film. I'd even say its his best. I'd personally give it 6 stars outta 10, because the dialogue is still very "bay"
Haha, someone didn't research Harmony Korine beforehand. Saw a ton of frat guys walk out of the theatre halfway through. What a polarizing movie
Poltergust
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Can someone link to the actual story of this?
That is exactly not the right setting for that movie. Try and dig up Grantland's Girls in Hoodies podcast about it.EDIT: or I could do it: http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly...odcast-spring-breakers-beyonce-and-real-world
I really like this podcast generally. I don't get a lot of female perspective on my pop culture podcasts, so this one is really refreshing. Recommended.
Yeah that movie is not about "watch Selena Gomez and her teen babe friends prance around in bikinis" despite that totally happening a bunch.
Pain & Gain The Real Story / 48 Hours Muscle And Mayhem
If you've seen the movie it's worth watching.
If you've seen the movie it's worth watching.
I agree with this pretty much. The marketing of the movie as some Bad Boys style buddy action/comedy gives a different impression of what's actually in the movie. There's no real attempt at making the Sun Gym gang sympathetic.
Con Air was made by Simon West.
Silphonica
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I was really confused with this movie as well. It goes into ridiculous Natural born Killers territory around halfway but only after Bay has made us like the antiheroes and despise the jewish columbian asshole who didn't deserve the money. Then when you actually find out it's a true story it just becomes even more confusing. The Rock and Armageddeon were fine films..this shit sucked.
TUROK
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It's impossible to portray something like this in a humorous way without offending people who are close to the real events. It just simply can't be done. The moment you decide to make light of someone's murder, people are going to get offended. It's inevitable.
That said, I loved the movie, but I love Michael Bay, so yeah.
That said, I loved the movie, but I love Michael Bay, so yeah.
Hey, Judge Alex from the TV show was the one who did the trial for these assholes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferrer#Sun_Gym_Gang_murder_trials
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferrer#Sun_Gym_Gang_murder_trials
RedBullEnergy
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It's a frankly terribly shot and very very average.. the story would've been cool and interesting in the right hands but it ended up just quite boring and overly long, but Kermode has overreacted massively.
30 Minutes or Less
I'm definitely in the minority here, but next to Bad Boys 2 and The Rock, I thought The Island was probably his best film. It's just so entertaining, and so well shot.
Now that one one shitty movie.
I am not gonna watch Pain and Gain just because Its Micheal Bay movie.
FallingEdge
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Best part about this move is The Rock wearing his $500 shirt.
NekoFever
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Hoya Destroyer
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Who didnt find it hilarious when...
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The Rocks shows up to the wedding, with a severed toe and a green beard. lol
Best part about this move is The Rock wearing his $500 shirt.
Oh my God
Forsaken82
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I don't get comments like this...
Are you trying to down play the fact that events like Schiller's actual survival after multiple murder attempts failed, Griga's wife's horse tranq OD, the chopping up of the bodies and the subsequent return of a Chainsaw that required Motor Oil... are you trying to say these more outrageous moments did not happen and were actually nothing more than part of the "story Michael Bay heard while drunk one day"?
I mean, say what you will, and i certainly understand the reasoning behind the added humor beats, and the more sympathetic homicidal leads, and the ending, etc, its a movie after all, but at the same time, You can't deny that many of those outragous moments still occurred similarly to there depictions in the film.
gutter_trash
Banned
I just watched it, LTTP
I loved the movie. I am a Michael Bay hater and I love this movie.
Sorry for real people that it may affect because of it being a true story but damn it is entertaining seeing dumb criminals out dumb themselves
I loved the movie. I am a Michael Bay hater and I love this movie.
Sorry for real people that it may affect because of it being a true story but damn it is entertaining seeing dumb criminals out dumb themselves
Brolic Gaoler
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Movie would have been fine if it were fiction. As it is it goes to great lengths to remind you over and over that the events actually happened.
what? no it's not. i didn't like it cause it was boring. when i saw the commercials i thought it was going to be a comedy, like a buddy cop comedy, but with criminals.
you said it, brother
Delta Assault
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The only thing I was really confused about was Marky Mark's love life.
Like, you see him at the beginning and he feels sorry for himself and doesn't get to hook up with this one really attractive client at the gym. Okay, I guess that's a bummer. But then midway through the story, you find out he actually has this hot stripper girlfriend who's convinced he's a CIA operative? And she's... even hotter than the attractive client. So why was he depressed again? Seems like he's got a good thing going.
And then he just hands his stripper gf over to The Rock. And that confused me as well. That doesn't seem like something a normal person would do.
Like, you see him at the beginning and he feels sorry for himself and doesn't get to hook up with this one really attractive client at the gym. Okay, I guess that's a bummer. But then midway through the story, you find out he actually has this hot stripper girlfriend who's convinced he's a CIA operative? And she's... even hotter than the attractive client. So why was he depressed again? Seems like he's got a good thing going.
And then he just hands his stripper gf over to The Rock. And that confused me as well. That doesn't seem like something a normal person would do.
Glorify them? You must have seen the wrong movie.
James Woods
Banned
I know this is an old ass post but I just want to say I am disgusted by this. Con Air is a comedy, The Rock is an action film. Not the same thing.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The movie was pretty fucked up. Still not sure how to feel about it.
Resident4t.
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It's still one of my favorite movies of 2013. I expected nothing from it and I got an amazing performance by Dwayne Johnson. I had mixed feelings while watching it because I knew about the actual story behind it, though.
SquiddyCracker
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I really liked the movie, but yeah, it was kinda wrong.
Where does that leave us though?
Should we feel bad whilst simultaneously acknowledging the film was good?
Where does that leave us though?
Should we feel bad whilst simultaneously acknowledging the film was good?
what you say? why is it wrong? i dont know where it leaves us. why is it wrong to like this movie
SquiddyCracker
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It makes fun of the real suffering of an actual person.
Nope.
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