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[Gaz Pwnage]

Oh wow :lol

 

[Malleymal]

I did not want to laugh at that milkshake parody... I really didnt... :lol

 

[Shanadeus]

So being an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole is simply exercising your 'freedom to criticize'

I'm sure you'll just get shitted on for this post but I'll give it a go.

Exercising your freedom to criticize doesn't make you an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole, but unfortunately some people only know how to exercise their freedom to criticize by being an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole - and some exercise their freedom that way intentionally because they believe it's the best way to send a message to those opposing their freedoms.

 

[Count Dookkake]

So being an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole is simply exercising your 'freedom to criticize'

WAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

 

[neorej]

I'm sure you'll just get shitted on for this post but I'll give it a go.

Exercising your freedom to criticize doesn't make you an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole, but unfortunately some people only know how to exercise their freedom to criticize by being an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole - and some exercise their freedom that way intentionally because they believe it's the best way to send a message to those opposing their freedoms.

The amount of offense any given critique arises is completely in the hands of the one receiving the criticism though.

 

[coldvein]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

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[Shanadeus]

The amount of offense any given critique arises is completely in the hands of the one receiving the criticism though.

The amount of offense varies yes, but the critique can chose to not use an insulting language.
Like for example not comparing karasu to a baby, which looks like it serves no purpose but ridiculing and antagonizing him. I do recognize the reasons for using this likening though so it might just be the easiest way of getting their point through.

 

[SolarPowered]

The amount of offense any given critique arises is completely in the hands of the one receiving the criticism though.

This is good. I think it could be worded a bit differently for this case...

The amount of offense any given critique arises is completely in the hands of the one receiving the criticism or the ones who believe that said criticism is directed at them.

A lot of people may want to take offense at something that wasn't intentionally aimed at them at all and I think this may set people back way too often because it may serve to legitimize the beliefs of extremists or radicals(of any kind).

 

[neorej]

The amount of offense varies yes, but the critique can chose to not use an insulting language.
Like for example not comparing karasu to a baby, which serves no purpose but ridiculing and antagonizing him. I do recognize the reasons for using this likening though so it might just be the easiest way of getting their point through.

But who decides what language is and which is not insulting?
One could argue that muslims worldwide misinterpreted the cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb as a tulban. One could interpret it as being an insult and a depiction of the prophet as a terrorist. I for one interpreted it as a graphic representation of terrorists who are using the face of religion to justify their cowardly acts. As most people in my direct environment did. Including several muslims.

So who is to blame that it was misinterpreted? The drawer, who should've made more clear what his intentions were, even though he had no idea his cartoon for a small Danish paper would go worldwide thanks to a crazed imam? Or the people who automatically assumed the worst and jumped to conclusions?

 

[Pimpwerx]

So being an abrasive intentionally offensive asshole is simply exercising your 'freedom to criticize'

Drawing is considered abrasive and offensive? Wow! Perspective, my friend. That's the whole point of this. Some people have no fucking perspective. PEACE.

EDIT: For example, here's a drawing my friend did for Draw Mohammed Day. It's intentionally provocative, but offensive? I guess I'm not so sensitive since I'm atheist.

 

[Shorty]

ITT western people struggle with the idea of different cultures having their way.

 

[SmokyDave]

ITT western people struggle with the idea of different cultures having their way.

There is very little I can say to this post that will leave me with a NeoGAF account.

I shall simply choose "I find your observation repugnant and request that you give a little more thought to further contributions".

 

[Count Dookkake]

ITT western people struggle with the idea of different cultures having their way.

ITT others need a diaper change.

 

[CrocMother]

I am from Pakistan. And yes, they DID ban Youtube as well but that's uplifted now. Same for Facebook, the ban is uplifted now (as of June 1st).

And yea, Pakistan has other stuff to worry about than Facebook. True story, but today a group of terrorists entered the hospital that I work in dressed as policemen in order to break out their fellow terrorist who was injured in an attack that they perpetrated not too long ago. This ended up in a gun fight right in the middle of the ICU with 4 policeman and a woman dead. The terrorists got away and were unable to extract their man. Now the hospital is on red alert, it's fucking crazy here.

I live in Lahore and the hospital is Jinnah Hospital.

That is crazy man be safe. Have you ever interacted with an injured terrorist before?

 

[Cyan]

I am from Pakistan. And yes, they DID ban Youtube as well but that's uplifted now. Same for Facebook, the ban is uplifted now (as of June 1st).

And yea, Pakistan has other stuff to worry about than Facebook. True story, but today a group of terrorists entered the hospital that I work in dressed as policemen in order to break out their fellow terrorist who was injured in an attack that they perpetrated not too long ago. This ended up in a gun fight right in the middle of the ICU with 4 policeman and a woman dead. The terrorists got away and were unable to extract their man. Now the hospital is on red alert, it's fucking crazy here.

I live in Lahore and the hospital is Jinnah Hospital.

Holy shit dude! Stay safe.

 

[PJV3]

Muslims need to be like this guy, Chill out, drink some wine and make a little love.
Omar Khayyam FTW.

 

[Enosh]

ITT western people struggle with the idea of different cultures having their way.

I realy have no idea how to respond to this

if this is the atitude of people in Europe right now, then we fucking deserve for freedom of speach to die

 

[Rad-]

Wow talk about surprise laughter. Very nice.

 

[Dali]

I realy have no idea how to respond to this

if this is the atitude of people in Europe right now, then we fucking deserve for freedom of speach to die

To speach his own.

 

[Shorty]

There is very little I can say to this post that will leave me with a NeoGAF account.

I shall simply choose "I find your observation repugnant and request that you give a little more thought to further contributions".

Fine.
How well do you know the Pakistani people? What makes you think they don't support the decision to ban a website that allows content that insults their religion. You may argue that insulting something fictional like religion is nothing to get angry about but that's the western cultural point of view. From my knowledge most Pakistani are deeply religious and thus they have an entirely different outlook on the issue.

The day may come when the Pakistani people stands up and decides that facebook is more important to them than their beliefs but it doesn't look like it's here yet. Until then I say let them have their way.
The whole world doesn't have to be westernized.

Also I'm not sure why you're angry. Because I pointed out the overall reaction in the thread?

 

[dinazimmerman]

facebook is shit anyway

 

[blame space]

how do we get facebook banned in the US?

 

[Maleficence]

I am from Pakistan. And yes, they DID ban Youtube as well but that's uplifted now. Same for Facebook, the ban is uplifted now (as of June 1st).

And yea, Pakistan has other stuff to worry about than Facebook. True story, but today a group of terrorists entered the hospital that I work in dressed as policemen in order to break out their fellow terrorist who was injured in an attack that they perpetrated not too long ago. This ended up in a gun fight right in the middle of the ICU with 4 policeman and a woman dead. The terrorists got away and were unable to extract their man. Now the hospital is on red alert, it's fucking crazy here.

I live in Lahore and the hospital is Jinnah Hospital.

Are these the terrorists involved in the attacks on Friday? That was in the same place iirc.

Seriously Pakistan, you have a huge army, stop paying so much ridiculous attention to India for one fucking second and you might be able to sort out your own country first.

 

[Lamel]

I am from Pakistan. And yes, they DID ban Youtube as well but that's uplifted now. Same for Facebook, the ban is uplifted now (as of June 1st).

And yea, Pakistan has other stuff to worry about than Facebook. True story, but today a group of terrorists entered the hospital that I work in dressed as policemen in order to break out their fellow terrorist who was injured in an attack that they perpetrated not too long ago. This ended up in a gun fight right in the middle of the ICU with 4 policeman and a woman dead. The terrorists got away and were unable to extract their man. Now the hospital is on red alert, it's fucking crazy here.

I live in Lahore and the hospital is Jinnah Hospital.

I was born and lived in Lahore until the age of 4. Place use to be a lot better than it is now. I have tons of family there and I've even been to Jinnah Hospital before. Stay safe.