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Palutena Confirmed for Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U

So that's why people liked Kid Icarus Uprising's story.
Not at all sir. The story is truly a roller coaster of magic and laughter. Pure joy in visual form. There isn't a single moment of the physical splendor that is Palutena's curves outside of the pre-release promotional videos.

wait, how did my desire to see a smash bros battle between 2 female characters turn into this?

can't a person look forward to use new characters regardless of their gender? am i forbidden from using them because i'm a guy? wtf?

this is the kind of wake up call that keeps me away from playing people online. if i'm going to see people like this, i'd rather play alone. same reason why i'm not using Rosalina in MK8 in GAF online matches.
This is silly. There are only a handful of sexually deprived individuals on NeoGAF, and you don't have to friend them on your system.
 
wait, how did my desire to see a smash bros battle between 2 female characters turn into this?

can't a person look forward to use new characters regardless of their gender? am i forbidden from using them because i'm a guy? wtf?

this is the kind of wake up call that keeps me away from playing people online. if i'm going to see people like this, i'd rather play alone. same reason why i'm not using Rosalina in MK8 in GAF online matches.
Yeah, yours seemed pretty innocent. Not that everyone's was.

Not sure why there was such a hurry to include you in the tar-and-feathering.
 
3) What does it matter who it was "meant for"? Now you are changing the subject. First you were complaining about the people who enjoyed it. Now you are saying it's about the intent of the drawing. Figure out what you're actually trying to say before you say it.

4) Why is targeting a profitable age group a "problem"? If there's money to be had elsewhere, take your genius out there and make it for yourself. This is no more a "problem" than another brain dead Transformers movie with flashy effects designed to bring in hordes of mouth breathers. I don't watch those movies because I find them repulsive. Do you know what's moronic? Going on the internet and complaining that they exist.

4.5) There is nothing childish about loving the beauty of the female body. 'Tis appropriate for people of both genders and of all ages. Voicing that love is also surely nothing to be ashamed of.

3) It doesn't, you were the one who brought up the fact that women might enjoy it.

4) It is a problem when almost the entire industry outside indies, doesn't give a damn. Nintendo games were gender neutral (barring a few missteps like Super Princess Peach), but now they seem to be pushing away their female audience.

4.5) Gratuitous sex for the sake of sex, along with responses like I CAN'T TAKE IT! is childish.

wait, how did my desire to see a smash bros battle between 2 female characters turn into this?

can't a person look forward to use new characters regardless of their gender? am i forbidden from using them because i'm a guy? wtf?

this is the kind of wake up call that keeps me away from playing people online. if i'm going to see people like this, i'd rather play alone. same reason why i'm not using Rosalina in MK8 in GAF online matches.

My apologies. Due to your quote of the gif, I assumed you meant a different kind of battle.
 
well, that post legitimately angered me. sorry if i did the same to others with my own one.

nowadays it feels like choosing your favorite character is actually becoming bad compared to choosing what people want you to choose. i bet that if i had posted that i wanted to see a Litte Mac vs Ike battle, the post wouldn't even register.
 
I've seen Catholic high school dance teams more provocative than anything in the Palutena trailer.

There's something to be said for picking battles.
 
i hope they add kid icarus banter when pit and pal are fighting on pals temple or something
I can picture Sakurai adding an Easter egg in Palutena's Temple similar to Snake's codec calls on Shadow Moses or Fox's wingmates in Lylat Cruise, where if you spam Pit or Palutena's taunt, you'll conjure up a running conversation with the other gods.
 
I can picture Sakurai adding an Easter egg in Palutena's Temple similar to Snake's codec calls on Shadow Moses or Fox's wingmates in Lylat Cruise, where if you spam Pit or Palutena's taunt, you'll conjure up a running conversation with the other gods.

yeah im hoping he takes that route (hearing viridi in the trailer gave me some hope)
 
3) It doesn't, you were the one who brought up the fact that women might enjoy it.

4) It is a problem when almost the entire industry outside indies, doesn't give a damn. Nintendo games were gender neutral (barring a few missteps like Super Princess Peach), but now they seem to be pushing away their female audience.

4.5) Gratuitous sex for the sake of sex, along with responses like I CAN'T TAKE IT! is childish.
3) I am trying to be really nice here, but again, whether women might enjoy it is about the perception of the receiver. You talked about the intention of the creator. I think this is a pretty big, bold line that should be visible to anyone.

4) You are restating your position without actually providing an argument for it.

4.5) So when I engage in gratuitous sex with for the sake of sex, I am being childish? Responses like "I CAN'T TAKE IT!" are meant to be comedic - they aren't serious.
 
I want Palutena and Pit talking to replace Snake 's codec conversion when they are fighting on their stage.

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I can picture Sakurai adding an Easter egg in Palutena's Temple similar to Snake's codec calls on Shadow Moses or Fox's wingmates in Lylat Cruise, where if you spam Pit or Palutena's taunt, you'll conjure up a running conversation with the other gods.

Sorry did not read but i am sure many think alike too.
 
From those move sets, Palutena is going to be my main.
She has everything covered.
Quick wall/counter for melee and range, fast medium/long range combat, AOE abilities, offensive/defensive teleport to escape/closing gap, fricken fly too?
What is her weakness? The quick clip just shows how broken she is.

PS: I would love to watch a Link or Kid Icarus anime.
 
3) I am trying to be really nice here, but again, whether women might enjoy it is about the perception of the receiver. You talked about the intention of the creator. I think this is a pretty big, bold line that should be visible to anyone.

4) You are restating your position without actually providing an argument for it.

4.5) So when I engage in gratuitous sex with for the sake of sex, I am being childish? Responses like "I CAN'T TAKE IT!" are meant to be comedic - they aren't serious.

4) Okay here's my argument. I am a huge Zelda fan. Now needless to say I am really excited for the Hyrule Warriors. Fast Forward to when the Japanese website was opened, and a bunch of new info came out along with new characters etc. Everything looked pretty cool except for the villain of what I'm guess will be 1/2 - 3/4 of the game. I then looked at the thread about the new info: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=823315&highlight=hyrule+warriors and after seeing the replies, I felt like I didn't belong. A series I had been playing for almost 2 decades was telling me that I'm not wanted any more just because I'm a woman.

The same thing is happening here. I love the Smash series but this trailer told me that I'm not wanted.
 
From those move sets, Palutena is going to be my main.
She has everything covered.
Quick wall/counter for melee and range, fast medium/long range combat, AOE abilities, offensive/defensive teleport to escape/closing gap, fricken fly too?
What is her weakness? The quick clip just shows how broken she is.

PS: I would love to watch a Link or Kid Icarus anime.
Her normals don't seem to have much range, which is a bad seeing as she has a large hitbox.

On the topic of the anime, you can watch it on your 3DS. There are youtube uploads but they're all awfully low res.
 
Her normals don't seem to have much range, which is a bad seeing as she has a large hitbox.

On the topic of the anime, you can watch it on your 3DS. There are youtube uploads but they're all awfully low res.
Where do you get the impression her normals don't have much range? Her falling normal seemed to pull in two spaced-out enemies for a multi-hit combo, iirc.

Oh, and to the other guy talking about her variety of specials, bear in mind she probably won't have access to them all at once. I suspect we were seeing some of her custom move-set options, only some of which you'd have with you at any given time.

As it stands, we don't know her default move-set.
 
Here is an idea.

Ignore them and you contribute to the discussion.

OT: I reckon she would be a primarily a magic user like Zelda right ?
Her trailer has her moveset, so I'm not sure why you're asking if she's a magic user.

From those move sets, Palutena is going to be my main.
She has everything covered.
Quick wall/counter for melee and range, fast medium/long range combat, AOE abilities, offensive/defensive teleport to escape/closing gap, fricken fly too?
What is her weakness? The quick clip just shows how broken she is.

PS: I would love to watch a Link or Kid Icarus anime.
She can only have four abilities when you use her - you don't get all of that at once!

4) Okay here's my argument. I am a huge Zelda fan. Now needless to say I am really excited for the Hyrule Warriors. Fast Forward to when the Japanese website was opened, and a bunch of new info came out along with new characters etc. Everything looked pretty cool except for the villain of what I'm guess will be 1/2 - 3/4 of the game. I then looked at the thread about the new info: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=823315&highlight=hyrule+warriors and after seeing the replies, I felt like I didn't belong. A series I had been playing for almost 2 decades was telling me that I'm not wanted any more just because I'm a woman.

The same thing is happening here. I love the Smash series but this trailer told me that I'm not wanted.
If you interpret men saying they desire women as an intonation that you, a woman, is not wanted, I don't know what to tell you. If anything, it should be somewhat empowering when taken in the proper context. When I see a trailer showing off manly strength, or manly sexiness, my first thought is not to feel unwanted.

It's also important to note that you are once again shifting your argument entirely, as well. Initially, you discussed the actions of those viewing the trailer (posters). Then, you moved the discussion to the intentions of the creators. Now, you are talking about the feelings you had through your own perception of the trailer. I think it would be worthwhile for you to figure out which of these three (or maybe a fourth you haven't brought up yet) really bothers you, and stick to it. Also, what you provided is a statement of why this is a problem for you, which is different from this being a general "problem". Regardless, I am done for the night. May you feel better about this scenario.

Her normals don't seem to have much range, which is a bad seeing as she has a large hitbox.

On the topic of the anime, you can watch it on your 3DS. There are youtube uploads but they're all awfully low res.
The wing spread we see at the start has some huge range. She also controls space with her specials very well. If that vertical light pillar reminiscent of Captain Corridor is a base move, she basically has a significantly stronger version of Pikachu's Thunder.
 
I've seen Catholic high school dance teams more provocative than anything in the Palutena trailer.

There's something to be said for picking battles.

Honestly if anything that sequence seemed very Sailor Moon-esque. In fact I'm pretty sure Sailor Moon goes through that exact sequence when she transforms and does a similar pose when she's complete to when Palutena Alights screen appeared.

OT: Glad to see she's confirmed as playable even though I figured she would be anyway. One or two her moves they showcased in the trailer were very similar to Zelda's, iirc.
 
4) Okay here's my argument. I am a huge Zelda fan. Now needless to say I am really excited for the Hyrule Warriors. Fast Forward to when the Japanese website was opened, and a bunch of new info came out along with new characters etc. Everything looked pretty cool except for the villain of what I'm guess will be 1/2 - 3/4 of the game. I then looked at the thread about the new info: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=823315&highlight=hyrule+warriors and after seeing the replies, I felt like I didn't belong. A series I had been playing for almost 2 decades was telling me that I'm not wanted any more just because I'm a woman.

The same thing is happening here. I love the Smash series but this trailer told me that I'm not wanted.

Huh?
Nothing wrong from admitting that a male/female is handsome/pretty.
I tell guys I love how their suit makes them look good today, or how great a haircut is on a female. People love to be commented on theirs look since they put effort into it.
They always thanks me for noticing theirs look since it makes theirs day to hear it from another person.

Anyway, the trailer told me how Palutena is a God-Tier character, or maybe even a banned character in the future for tournament...no clue how the trailer said to you are not wanted, and shouldn't play SSB.
 
Where do you get the impression her normals don't have much range? Her falling normal seemed to pull in two spaced-out enemies for a multi-hit combo, iirc.

Oh, and to the other guy talking about her variety of specials, bear in mind she probably won't have access to them all at once. I suspect we were seeing some of her custom move-set options, only some of which you'd have with you at any given time.

As it stands, we don't know her default move-set.

They weren't pulled in, they jumped towards her. It's basically a point blank aerial. Her ground forward tilt/smash seemed to have a bit of range, but the animation seemed very slow. If priority still works the same as it did in melee and brawl her multihits are not a good thing since damage determines priority and I can't imagine her multihits doing too much damage per hit.

Compare this with ZSS who has insane melee range with very little windup and ending lag, and her model is rather short to boot.
 
They weren't pulled in, they jumped towards her. It's basically a point blank aerial. Her ground forward tilt/smash seemed to have a bit of range, but the animation seemed very slow. If priority still works the same as it did in melee and brawl her multihits are not a good thing since damage determines priority and I can't imagine her multihits doing too much damage per hit.

Compare this with ZSS who has insane melee range with very little windup and ending lag, and is rather short to boot.
Ah, yes, you might be right about that. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up having quite bit of reach, though. I mean, she has a staff...
 
From those move sets, Palutena is going to be my main.
She has everything covered.
Quick wall/counter for melee and range, fast medium/long range combat, AOE abilities, offensive/defensive teleport to escape/closing gap, fricken fly too?
What is her weakness? The quick clip just shows how broken she is.

PS: I would love to watch a Link or Kid Icarus anime.

she definately gives me the feeling of a character u can play anyway way you want shes basically options the character aside from miiis

do you want to play the range game? well pals got options you want that mid range with lots of speed and recovery? pals got options you want to just play that defensive game? pals got options serious my favorite character in the game by far

i am aware u can have only 4 specials but i meant u can customize her moves to be more ranged based, more defensive based etc etc
 
So we now have Palutena, Zelda, Peach, Zero Suit Samus, Samus, Sheik, Rosalina, Wii Fit Trainer, Villager and Mii
and female Pikachu
in the way of Female characters. That's a solid part of the roster.
 
gawd I would ravage Palutena until there's nothing left

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Kinsei I'm sorry but I feel like you're in the minority here. There was nothing at all in that trailer that pushed away female gamers. There was a slight gag in there that mostly poked fun of itself. If you think the target audience of Smash is largely horny 18-35 year olds...that's kind of weird. It hasn't been the case for Smash for nearly 2 decades, and nothing else we've seen suggests they're taking it in that direction.

Also shit yeah #teamreal. I think I've found my Day 1 character if her banter is a major part of her game!
 
The Studio 4*C didn't really have anything tantalizing about it.
It's just Shaft being Shaft.

I remember Palutena taking a bath in that one, which was something I just didn't want to see. Not representative of the game. It isn't outright terrible though, just a little sketchy. At least her boobs don't jiggle in this shot. Kid Icarus: Uprising was above that and also one of the most charming games I've played.
 
Hell yessssss! I already said I'd main her before it was confirmed, but now that I see some similarities to Pikachu it's all the sweeter.
 
Palutena is looking fan-service-ish so she can troll us all more efficiently <3

Love, LOVE her character, one of the best Nintendo characters in ages, she's like a meaner Princess Celestia :p
 
Not a fan of her hair to be honest. It's big, but it's too low and there are too few polygons to be using that style of texture. They should have used the same style of hair as Toon Link or rosalina. Her hangs make her head look bigger than they should be.
 
It looks like she's going commando.
Yeah, she's always had a rather revealing dress, ever since Sakurai redesigned her. I'm actually curious how they'll conceal her undergarments. I say this because Sakurai has added black holes under the dresses of Peach, Zelda, Rosalina, etc., apparently because he tired of people taking screenshots there. I wonder how that would work with a character with a thigh-high slit in her dress, though.
 
Yeah, she's always had a rather revealing dress, ever since Sakurai redesigned her. I'm actually curious how they'll conceal her undergarments. I say this because Sakurai has added black holes under the dresses of Peach, Zelda, Rosalina, etc., apparently because he tired of people taking screenshots there. I wonder how that would work with a character with a thigh-high slit in her dress, though.

it looks like shes wearing something underneath and i think sakurai might just limit the crazy amount of movement in her dress or just do his damndest to just hide it as much as he can.....lol what did i just reply too?
 
Palutena always struck me as vaguely sociopathic in how she keeps her serene swagger even as the world's going to shit around her. I mean, she definitely had a note of panic in her voice at various points in Uprising, and remorse in others, but at the end of the day she's cool as a cucumber.
 
This is how pathetic anime is nowadays. Can't even have a 2 minute animation for a goddamn Nintendo game without shoving ass and tits in there. Jesus christ.
 
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