CountAntonius
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Paradox will develop for SteamOS: "it will give far better perf than Windows does"
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Rollo Lawson
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I knew when I saw the announcement there were going to be stabs at Windows out the gate smh
GravityMan
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I haven't played Europa Universalis IV or Crusader Kings II, but it's my understanding that both games are tailored for KB/M and not a (360) controller. Paradox coming out praising SteamOS, and this announcement that both their games will run natively on it, makes me even more eager to see Valve's upcoming controller.
ridethepiggy
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why so angry?
LiveFromKyoto
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fucking stupid better performance man fuck that
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
More than you might expect. Paradox's grand strategy games are actually pretty processor intensive because they track a huge number of variables, interactions, and AI routines. In fact, I can't think of any other games that need more power for purely gameplay purposes.
Right in the feels i see...
anexanhume
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Shalashaska161
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It'll be interesting to see what kind of performance gains you can get on a gaming focused OS compared to Windows. I don't think it'll be that huge but who knows.
I agree. I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm very skeptical. I just don't see where this massive Windows-induced performance loss is supposed to come from. At least on a decently configured system.
dgrdsv
Member
Any prospect of EA FB3 titles appearing on Steam soon?
Not sure if you're joking but no. EA doesn't put their games on Steam anymore.
Unless they are Sims 3 expansions.
Piercedveil
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Serious or not, I come to NeoGAF for these types of posts. Thanks.
I'm really interested in seeing some benchmarks with SteamOS once things get going.
SteamOS and the Steambox can also be used with a KB+M.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I am unconvinced, but happily await such an unveiling.
Steam OS should be a multitasking OS like windows, without all the unnecessary services and legacy crap running in the background. I'll give it a try, why not, it'll be free. A free OS that's simple to use could be very attractive to developers of all kinds of software. I think this thing is going to be a lot more than just a games OS. Linux with a simpler GUI, that allows existing linux stuff to run with little port work.
Why didn't that developer give any numbers?
Like what?
If it isn't needed, it isn't used.
And it does take close to zero CPU time.
Like what?
If it isn't needed, it isn't used.
And it does take close to zero CPU time.
From not coding to da metal DUUUUHHHH!!
When was the last time Paradox did a demanding game? And when was the last time they didn't release a broken piece of shit that needed 6 months of endless patching to run fine?
While the news will pleae some Linux lovers, I doubt it will make much of a dent into the Windows stranglehold on PC gaming.
Also I'm kind of weary of the "Much better performance" claims. This hasn'T shown in real life as far as Linux versions go.
While the news will pleae some Linux lovers, I doubt it will make much of a dent into the Windows stranglehold on PC gaming.
Also I'm kind of weary of the "Much better performance" claims. This hasn'T shown in real life as far as Linux versions go.
perryfarrell
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PC gamers will just go dual-boot. Plunk Steam OS on one partition, and boot into it whenever u wanna play games. With flash drives, booting takes mere seconds anyways.
Only difference will be that you can't multi-task Windows Apps while playing games.
Only difference will be that you can't multi-task Windows Apps while playing games.
This guy's game reached a point where it took 20 minutes for all the calculations necessary for every 20 days. At normal speed this is roughly 40 seconds of game time before the game freezes and has to re perform all its calculations.
Minsc
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Yeah, I'm interested to see if the people sensitive to this (I'm not, luckily I suppose) find it a big improvement... I hope so, because it sounds really annoying to have a high-end PC and get micro-stutter/etc. Valve sorta states this is one of their priorities with SteamOS (reducing input lag/improving graphics performance), and maybe with OpenGL it will be nicer. How'd RAGE make out with micro-stuttering?
Solid Samus
Banned
Your username is right the fuck on
Carpe Libertatem
Member
I have no clue how you could play a Paradox grand strategy game with a controller of any kind.
A month ago.
Zombie James
Banned
Why? SteamOS is completely free.
because he cant browse the net... no wait it can..
umm send emails... no it can...
umm doesnt have graphics apps... oh there is gimp and blender?
umm ???
Dual booting blows!!!!??
It's on the CPU side of things, which should provide minimal improvements over the windows code. The games aren't demanding from a GPU point of view, but you're right, I should have specified it.
I'll be honest I haven't bought EUIV (yet), but since I got burned on their past games, I took a wait and see approach
Still that would be a first with them
Imperfected
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I love Paradox for bringing truly original, fantastic games to the market. I also have to wonder, though: does this mean for the first time one of their games will at least perform up to the glowing standard of 'mediocre'? Could I even go so far as to dare to dream that those SteamOS boosts will allow them to release a game that runs on a laptop without turning into a completely unplayable mess for no apparent reason?
I'm glad to hear they'll be doing SteamOS development/ports, but I'm not sure I trust their opinion on how to get performance gains in programming any more than I trust that of the average homeless person on the street. They would need to show me they can maintain a steady performance level of "only slightly bad" across the board, first.
Note: I'm not trying to say SteamOS won't offer performance gains, just that other than Mojang I'm not sure I could imagine a worse source to cite for such a thing.
I'm glad to hear they'll be doing SteamOS development/ports, but I'm not sure I trust their opinion on how to get performance gains in programming any more than I trust that of the average homeless person on the street. They would need to show me they can maintain a steady performance level of "only slightly bad" across the board, first.
Note: I'm not trying to say SteamOS won't offer performance gains, just that other than Mojang I'm not sure I could imagine a worse source to cite for such a thing.
Is it really news? I mean paradox already does linux versions of their games.
childplease
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Excellent news. Although with each announcement the console vs pc power disparity increases even more than it is now.
babyghost853
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There have been stabs at windows for years, but most people just tend to put their fingers in their ears and go la la la la la. Windows is bloated period. I really hope this takes off and causes more linux uptake, MS needs to have some competion, only then will they stop half assing windows. As it is now they can put out what ever and people will still buy it because, "what else am I going to use if I want to game on PC with a huge selection of titles"?
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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And Steam OS target the living room. So people like me who game on a desk will have to stick with Windows.
Carpe Libertatem
Member
I'll be honest I haven't bought EUIV (yet), but since I got burned on their past games, I took a wait and see approach
Still that would be a first with them
They've improved a lot. March of the Eagles was fine on release, as is EUIV. I'd go as far to say that CK2 was actually alright when it came out (although it's certainly been improved a lot!).
Rushersauce
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He is so mad, that he wrote "there" instead of "they're"
I agree, but perhaps we'll be surprised tomorrow.
GravityMan
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I know that, but SteamOS is targeted towards the living room experience. While you can use a wireless KB+M in the living room, most people interested in SteamOS/SM probably don't want to do that; they prefer some sort of controller.
I do agree with the other guy in the sense that I don't see how any grand strategy game like this can be played with anything other than M+KB. If Valve proves me wrong tomorrow, then whoa.
AngryChinchilla
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Reading the Steam thread makes this so much funnier to me in that context.
TouchMyBox
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You can do that now. Steam exists for Linux. Just Steam isn't going to magically play all your old windows titles. That'll still require a Windows PC. SteamOS will most likely be a streamlined Linux distro.