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[Randy Monk]

Maybe if he didn't like Steam rules, he should not have tried to release his game on Steam. It's a PC game, go publish it on your own without their help. Obviously rules are set out prior to anything and he could easily read his contract he signed.

Sad part is this will probably bring in a lot of attention and possibly sales to his game wherever it gets released.

Theres no such thing as bad publicity. Maybe the dev can use the proceeds to fund some anger management classes.

 

[Armaros]

Wow I just read through all of his tweets...how are people defending him? He seems like a whiny piece of shit

He read up on the Phil Fish handbook of PR, and decided to double down on it.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Melt the fuck down, holy shit. Dude needs to zip the lip and walk. He did this to himself.

It's almost like he thinks he just another Steam customer. He probably doesn't considering his YouTube channel shows him owning an extensive Steam game collection. In his mind, I bet his relationship with Valve didn't change even when he began selling things on their store.

Not that death threats would have been acceptable were he just a paying customer...

 

[White Man]

He really needs to pull a Phil FIsh and delete his Twitter at this point. Or not, because I'm enjoying the drama.

 

[Objectively Bad Opinion]

Wow I just read through all of his tweets...how are people defending him? He seems like a whiny piece of shit

He reminds me of Fish, but Fish only told unimportant people to suck his dick, he didn't threaten his publisher with murder.

You could argue that being told to choke on a dick counts as a death threat though!

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

Think before you tweet.

.

 

[TurboLibre]

I haven't been able to get his game to work for well over a month now anyway. Pre-patch it wouldn't load, post patch I get a frozen screen with music. So whatever.

 

[Archaix]

He reminds me of Fish, but Fish only told unimportant people to suck his dick, he didn't threaten his publisher with murder.

Phil Fish said what thousands of developers would love to say, and what millions of forumgoers say constantly to each other.

This guy decided to rant about murdering the most influential man in his segment of the industry.

 

[SteveWinwood]

From the bundle earlier this year? I would hope so, at least in the short term.

no you can still buy it from their page and it gives you steam key

 

[Tempy]

Alright, alright, alright! Steam and Valve are the greatest and can do no wrong!

For some context, these were the same guys who were fucked over by Valve as to not "send a message to indie devs"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...allowed-past-greenlight-even-with-a-publisher

Are you still defending death threats?

 

[HowZatOZ]

Game's getting 100 times the press now than if it'd just released per usual as another steam idie in a sea of indies. Probably gonna sell a lot better now than it would have honestly.

Ehhh, doubtful. The game wasn't really that good to begin with, in terms of quality for an indie title. Having a dev hissy fit on Twitter doesn't really translate well to sales.

 

[RunWhiteBoyRun]

Have the drunk posts began yet?

 

[Cyd0nia]

Phil Fish said what thousands of developers would love to say, and what millions of forumgoers say constantly to each other.

This guy decided to rant about murdering the most influential man in his segment of the industry.

That might be something developers might actually love to do too. Who knows.

He shouldn't have done it though, as he now no doubt realises.

 

[White Man]

Have the drunk posts began yet?

He can't afford the booze now.

 

[hohoXD123]

Have the drunk posts began yet?

Yup.

Mike Murderbeck @SpooderW · 11 secs 12 seconds ago
@braktheman if only i could feed myself off sales of the memoir.

Mike Murderbeck @SpooderW · 2 mins 2 minutes ago
we were selling more than that a minute on steam.

Mike Murderbeck @SpooderW · 3 mins 3 minutes ago
Don't worry guys, everything is gonna be OK, we sold TWELVE copies on non-steam platforms today!!!!!!

 

[SteveWinwood]

edit read from bottom up

and of course i was beaten :/

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

The other dev:

"My fucking career is down the fucking tubes... I can not believe this for a moment"

https://twitter.com/Vallisca3x3x3/status/524340697512837121

Aw man, that sucks. I hope this guy gets more work.

 

[Messofanego]

He can't afford the booze now.

That is dark.

 

[Disaster Nebraska]

Ooooof. This kinda stuff reminds me of how some of my customers act. Their $15-a-month web-page goes down (usually because they begged us to upgrade PHP and their crap code or crap plugins aren't compatible) and then we get the follow up:

"Fix this now! I am losing 1,000s of dollars a minute here. This is unacceptable".

 

[ashecitism]

It seems contacting Valve is not that simple. Which could build the frustration and lead to this.

Devs don't have to go through the regular CS, they have their own Steam reps and the Steam business team, and as explained by Robert at Zeboyd and jshackles they're pretty fast and responsive.

 

[Nabs]

It seems contacting Valve is not that simple. Which could build the frustration and lead to this.

http://i.minus.com/iZWitCNGOHH7W.png

That person replying is not a developer.

 

[RunWhiteBoyRun]

He can't afford the booze now.

Gabe is a monster.

 

[hohoXD123]

He can't afford the booze now.

Ouch, ice cold.

 

[LurkerPrime]

Because a person isn't the same as an entity. If you kill Google...people lose their jobs and other ish...if you kill a person that person is dead. See the difference?

I don't think killing a massive company such as Google is anywhere close to as impossible as killing a human being. I have no idea how you can still run with this analogy, playing devil's advocate for the heck of it is getting a bit silly now.

All I'm saying is that the Internet and people in general are going to have to figure this "online communication" stuff out if we're to continue using it. Sarcasm and exaggeration are things we use every day, but once we're on the Internet the little bubble we normally communicate to suddenly becomes the entire world Internet. And on the Internet, there will always be someone taking issue with what any one person is posting.

Spoiler

Basically, the sarcasm mark needs to become a common part of online lingo.

Anyways, if you're assuming that he's serious about killing a single person - in spite of whatever challenges or impossibilities it may present - then I don't see why you would take a larger-scale attack against an entire company any less seriously. I mean, really... publically announcing one's intent to murder is probably the worst way to go through with said intent.

To be clear: I'm not saying that what he did was OK, or that Valve made the wrong choice - merely that we need a better way to communicate online.

 

[Madness]

Removing a product from steam because the dev is acting like a baby seems a bit childish to me and only serves to create more anger.

Are you serious right now? The man wrote publicly threatened to kill someone and not only that, spent the whole day criticizing and insulting Steam, saying it's a monopoly, it's horrible blah blah. How is it childish for them to remove his game and credentials then?

We need to nip this casual death threat shit in the bud. It's never okay to make these threats even joking.

 

[Ingueferroque]

I guess it's a good idea to farm some cards!

 

[Qassim]

People should learn what an actual monopoly is.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

edit read from bottom up

and of course i was beaten :/

Man... what a shitbag.

"I know what I'll do! Now that I've burned my bridges with Steam, it's time to antagonize the other stores that still haven't taken my game down."

 

[NecromorphTX]

In the next time, please use Google +, no one will see what you wrote.

 

[The Real Abed]

Not Spooder! What in the world?

 

[JayEH]

edit read from bottom up

and of course i was beaten :/

Lol, maybe that's why you don't make enemies with the source of nearly 100% of your income.

 

[Archaix]

edit read from bottom up

and of course i was beaten :/

I bought Paranautical Activity on a non-Steam platform over a year ago. I wonder if I was the only one that day.

Mostly sarcastic, but I'm surprised he hasn't gotten more sales just from people who think his rant was some sort of anti-corporate sentiment that they want to get behind.

 

[Adnor]

He can't afford the booze now.

Daaaaaaammn

 

[Deleted member 17706]

People should learn what an actual monopoly is.

Are you trying to stifle their freedom of speech?!

 

[Slashlen]

He can't afford the booze now.

That was beautiful, man.

 

[Messofanego]

Devs don't have to go through the regular CS, they have their own Steam reps and the Steam business team, and as explained by Robert at Zeboyd and jshackles they're pretty fast and responsive.

Didn't know that, thanks.

 

[jem0208]

Are you still defending death threats?

Holy shit.


Not once did I defend the fact that he made a death threat. I really don't see how so many people think that I did. I actually think that he's a complete idiot. However I don't think removing the game was the right course of action. In large part because it also completely screws his partner over.

 

[Tempy]

Error

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

On the rare moments where Steam has messed something up on one of our sales or one of our game pages, I've sent an email to one of our Steam reps, and they've gotten it fixed lightning fast.

Wait so you are telling me throwing a tantrum on Twitter doesn't get your problem resolved faster and build better relationships?

 

[Trouble]

Error

I saw it, psycho.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Holy shit.


Not once did I defend the fact that he made a death threat. I really don't see how so many people think that I did. I actually think that he's a complete idiot. However I don't think removing the game was the right course of action. In large part because it also completely screws his partner over.

Maybe because you continue to say that what Valve did was wrong?

Death threats are unacceptable. Terminating a business relationships as a result of one is about the rightest course you could think of. Aside from notifying the police, of course.

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Devs don't have to go through the regular CS, they have their own Steam reps and the Steam business team, and as explained by Robert at Zeboyd and jshackles they're pretty fast and responsive.

Well, he is not a dev anymore, they removed his dev status

 

[Fare Godmace]

He burns like the sun
And I can't look away

 

[Faabulous]

Ctrl+F "free speech"
Nothing? Good.

Valve messed up, and I'm sure there are plenty of ways they can improve their platform for developers, but it's pretty obvious you don't put them on blast in a public arena. Complete and total lack of professionalism, and apparently Gabe does not abide by that.

His speech is still free mate, he's just not on steam anymore. Steam is not a democracy.

 

[Nokterian]

He can't afford the booze now.

 

[ashecitism]

Well, he is not a dev anymore, they removed his dev status

yeah, but he could have done that before his tantrum

 

[LapinAgile]

All I'm saying is that the Internet and people in general are going to have to figure this "online communication" stuff out if we're to continue using it. Sarcasm and exaggeration are things we use every day, but once we're on the Internet the little bubble we normally communicate to suddenly becomes the entire world Internet. And on the Internet, there will always be someone taking issue with what any one person is posting.

Spoiler

Basically, the sarcasm mark needs to become a common part of online lingo.

Anyways, if you're assuming that he's serious about killing a single person - in spite of whatever challenges or impossibilities it may present - then I don't see why you would take a larger-scale attack against an entire company any less seriously. I mean, really... publically announcing one's intent to murder is probably the worst way to go through with said intent.

To be clear: I'm not saying that what he did was OK, or that Valve made the wrong choice - merely that we need a better way to communicate online.

The better way to communicate online is with civil discourse and less childish violent hyperbole.

 

[Tempy]

Holy shit.


Not once did I defend the fact that he made a death threat. I really don't see how so many people think that I did. I actually think that he's a complete idiot. However I don't think removing the game was the right course of action. In large part because it also completely screws his partner over.

I'm sorry, but make a death threat and your game WILL get pulled. Unless you think death threats are a-ok.

 

[JayEH]

Holy shit.


Not once did I defend the fact that he made a death threat. I really don't see how so many people think that I did. I actually think that he's a complete idiot. However I don't think removing the game was the right course of action. In large part because it also completely screws his partner over.

Who cares if it screws over his partner? Valve doesn't certainly. He publicly represents the company whether he likes it or not. You don't publicly attack a business partner like that.

 

[Dragon]

Holy shit.

Not once did I defend the fact that he made a death threat. I really don't see how so many people think that I did. I actually think that he's a complete idiot. However I don't think removing the game was the right course of action. In large part because it also completely screws his partner over.

What would you suggest Valve do to show him that they won't stand for that kind of behavior? It's all well and good to feel empathy for someone who's innocent in all of this, but there has to be some punishment.