Letting kids decide things for themselves is "using" them?ConradCervantes said:Goddamn neo-hippies. Using your innocent kids to prove some point about societal norms is ridiculous.
Letting kids decide things for themselves is "using" them?ConradCervantes said:Goddamn neo-hippies. Using your innocent kids to prove some point about societal norms is ridiculous.
Fusebox said:That seems to be the motivation here. To bypass the typical genre-defining period when the boy is given their guns/cowboy hat/cars and the girls are given their tiaras, fairy wings and toy ovens and to let them decide for themselves.
Weenerz said:From the education to the names, they sound like horrible parents. Naming your children Storm, Jazz and Kio? REALLY?
I dunno, I think "Storm" is pretty badass.CHEEZMO said:Also, wtf at those names.
While I agree that it's a bit silly, the point is that "boy who likes fairy wings" and "girl who likes cowboy hats" carry with them a certain stigma, and they really shouldn't. By not telling people the child's sex, at least for a while, they're trying to drive home that point.AbsoluteZero said:But why can't you be a boy and enjoy your tiaras and fairy wings or be a girl and enjoy your cowboy whatnot? Just because you're given a gender shouldn't limit you one way or the other. It's just a bit silly is all.
That's pretty insensitive, friendo.BloodySinner said:Let me guess...
Storm is a hermaphrodite and the parents don't want to tell anyone because they're afraid of how they'll react to the news.
Orayn said:Letting kids decide things for themselves is "using" them?
Alligatorjandro said:How will it know which bathroom to use?
Orayn said:Letting kids decide things for themselves is "using" them?
MalboroRed said:Why even be a parent? Just pop them out of your womb and let them loose! Should they drink that bottle of clorox? Should they season their eggs with detergent? Let THEM decide!
Making the right decisions for your kids is a big part of parenting, they're too fucking young to make decisions.
Skiptastic said:Don't worry: if the parents don't determine the gender of the child, the kids at school will in short time...
Never mind, the article did it.
AbsoluteZero said:But why can't you be a boy and enjoy your tiaras and fairy wings or be a girl and enjoy your cowboy whatnot? Just because you're given a gender shouldn't limit you one way or the other. It's just a bit silly is all.
"What we noticed is that parents make so many choices for their children. It's obnoxious," adds Stocker, a teacher at an alternative school.
Chet Rippo said:Where's that thread for stupid baby names. Storm has got to be one of the worst names ever, boy or girl.
xbhaskarx said:Next they can raise a child in a reality television show as a social experiment, like The Truman Show!
Devolution said:BECAUSE when you tell people the child is one thing or the other, other people buy them shit and treat them differently based on that. You know how many barbies I got that basically gathered dust?
As for his mother, she's not giving up the crusade against the tyranny of assigned gender roles. "Everyone keeps asking us, 'When will this end?'" she said. "And we always turn the question back. Yeah, when will this end? When will we live in a world where people can make choices to be whoever they are?"
Feminists primarily use the term 'gender' to refer to social constructs, but academia still uses the terms interchangeably.maruchan said:I read the story of x in my feminist class as an undergrad, nice short story.
wow some of you have no idea the difference between gender and sex. we live in a patriarchal hetero society, nothing wrong with trying disrupt the hetero normative orde of gender roles...
Chet Rippo said:Where's that thread for stupid baby names. Storm has got to be one of the worst names ever, boy or girl.
Agreed on both counts.jett said:Parents sound insane.
Also, their baby is ugly.
A real human hermaphrodite would be fascinating.BloodySinner said:Let me guess...
Storm is a hermaphrodite and the parents don't want to tell anyone because they're afraid of how they'll react to the news.
AbsoluteZero said:What? Pretty sure genitalia defines sex of a human being.
That was an episode of L&O:SVU.SapientWolf said:Feminists primarily use the term 'gender' to refer to social constructs, but academia still uses the terms interchangeably.
There's another interesting story where a couple attempted to raise a boy as a girl after a botched circumcision. Long story short, it didn't work out.
I understand the argument, but a kid figuring out their own identity seems like one decision that parents really shouldn't have control over. I mean, if they can't choose that for themself, what's left?lightless_shado said:[devils advocate]
I don't think its fair to let children decide important things like how society at large will percieve them for the rest of their lives on their own
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Angry Grimace said:People are surprised that people who name their kid "Storm" do other dumb symbolic nonsense?
xelios said:I played with hot wheels, dirt and a spoon. And started a lot of fires. Thinking back, maybe it was the constant piano lessons...
Trent Strong said:Wow, the Onion was spot on with this one:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/progressive-parents-refuse-to-tell-child-its-sex,18395/
AbsoluteZero said:But why can't you be a boy and enjoy your tiaras and fairy wings or be a girl and enjoy your cowboy whatnot? Just because you're given a gender shouldn't limit you one way or the other. It's just a bit silly is all.
Depends which language.mantidor said:(see not even language lends itself for this)
Orayn said:I understand the argument, but a kid figuring out their own identity seems like one decision that parents really shouldn't have control over. I mean, if they can't choose that for themself, what's left?
Dr Eggman said:http://www.refinery29.com/static/bin/entry/62e/x/30059/albert-hammond-agyness-deyn.jpg[IMG]
In all seriousness, I think they're just trying to be cool. They are pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
Hipsters huh?
Is... is that them? Why is there a sudden rage welling up inside me? No, seriously... why does something that moments ago seemed only mildly retarded suddenly get elevated to two attention whores going full-retard?Dr Eggman said:![]()
In all seriousness, I think they're just trying to be cool. They are pretty cool.
Devolution said:BECAUSE when you tell people the child is one thing or the other, other people buy them shit and treat them differently based on that. You know how many barbies I got that basically gathered dust?
Devolution said:I played with cars, trikes, remote control cars and was shit at hand games and braiding hair/land yards. Despite my obvious interests in "boy" toys, it wouldn't stop people from buying me girly shit I rarely touched. In fact I distinctly remember having my batman figure tell the barbies to shut up in several of my imaginary skits.