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http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/01/sodas-contain-caramel-colored-carcinogen-4-mei

4-Mel is a carcinogen. Past the dotted black line is badsville.

I want to see Coca-Cola's advertising campaign that capitalizes on this.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Coke vs. Pepsi, no preference. But Diet Coke vs. Diet Pepsi, it's not even close. Diet Pepsi is waaaaaaaay better.

Edit: What I'm saying is that it's worth it. Gimme that 4-Mel.

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

They're both gross.

 

[djSyndrome]

better != less harmful

 

[shadyspace]

But Diet Coke vs. Diet Pepsi, it's not even close. Diet Pepsi is waaaaaaaay better.

At giving you cancer!

 

[DJ_Lae]

Everything causes cancer.

Having said that, Coke tastes way better than Pepsi anyway. Pepsi is far too sweet and one-note, you might as well drink any other generic cola.

 

[kick51]

4-MeI is a potential carcinogen, for those wondering

 

[rrs]

better != less harmful

This more or less. On that scale Sprite is the best soda ever, when we all know it's Dr Pepper.

 

[Grym]

meh...coke has sucked since removing the cocaine




also the shit that is worse for you tends to be 'better'

see: nearly any dessert and bacon

yeah bacon

 

[andycapps]

4-MeI is a potential carcinogen, for those wondering

Thank you, OP failed me on that one.

Of course Coke is better than Pepsi. Also, Coke Zero tastes much better than Pepsi Max.

 

[MIMIC]

better != less harmful

More harmful = better =p
Deadly = godly

 

[nateeasy]

fuck coke

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Coke tastes better to me anyway

if kfc didn't use pepsi in their resturants I'd never drink it.

 

[PsychBat!]

fuck coke

coke doesn't like you either.

 

[Soma]

I still like both.

 

[Silkworm]

Well at least if you live in California, due to their policy of placing warning labels on products with 29 micrograms of 4-MeI, you are slightly safer drinking Pepsi than in New York where the 4-MeI levels are much higher since they don't have such a labeling policy *shrug*
Of course several of the products in the chart exceed this level and don't have warning labels in California, so there is that

Edit: Chart confirms: Sprite rulez!!!! ;-)

 

[_Nemo]

I haven't drank pop in like 8-9 years.

 

[rrs]

Everything causes cancer.

Having said that, Coke tastes way better than Pepsi anyway. Pepsi is far too sweet and one-note, you might as well drink any other generic cola.

Pepsi with actual sugar tastes better than Coke

 

[Seraphis Cain]

What the fuck is Dr. Snap

 

[params7]

Pepsi with actual sugar tastes better than Coke

This. I don't drink sodas for nutrition, so if I'm going to drink one, its going to be the best tasting one. Pepsi wins there for me.

 

[AlStrong]

Wonder where coffee sits on the chart (not that I drink coffee).

 

[Cowie]

I haven't drank pop in like 8-9 years.

Thanks for the update! I was worried you might have slipped. Good to hear all is well.

 

[Camwi]

Is 4-Mel what makes Pepsi so delicious and Coke so friggin' disgusting?

 

[Silkworm]

Wonder where coffee sits on the chart (not that I drink coffee).

Er, I believe coffee is naturally brown due to roasting, not made caramel in appearance due to artificial chemicals (though I wouldn't but it past some companies perhaps using 4-MeI but that coffee is probably crap anyway).

Edit: Nevermind. I'm dead wrong.

4-Methylimidazole may be formed in the browning of certain foods through the Maillard reaction between carbohydrates and amino-containing compounds. In particular, it is found in roasted foods, grilled meats, coffee and in types of caramel coloring produced with ammonia-based processes.

Roasted foods and coffee? Bah!!! >:-( I don't care, come at me 4-MeI!

 

[GungHo]

4-MeI is a potential carcinogen, for those wondering

Thank you. The graph was meaningless.

What the fuck is Dr. Snap

A great name for a chiropractor villain in the Incredibles 2.

 

[Plinko]

Pepsi Throwback blows any version of Coke away.

 

[Lulubop]

Malta is sooo good tho.

 

[Funky Papa]

Malta Goya?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[Rimon-hanit]

LOL; This is like arguing about one not very good thing being better than another not very good thing.

Spoiler

sorry for the silly post i'm kind of tired

 

[NerdEyeBlind]

Canned/bottled Coke > Pepsi.

But sometimes fountain Pepsi > fountain Coke.

 

[Hitokage]

Pepsi Throwback blows any version of Coke away.

I tend to prefer real Coke to real Pepsi, although both are pretty good.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

All the more reason to bring back Crystal Pepsi I guess.

And to the guy that said Diet Pepsi is better than Diet Coke? Fuck you. Diet Coke is the nectar of the gods.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Is 4-Mel what makes Pepsi so delicious and Coke so friggin' disgusting?

Well, the research suggests it can make your taste buds come alive.

 

[RM8]

I hardly ever drink soda, but when I do it's Coke Zero. Good news, I guess

 

[Rodney McKay]

I still like both.

Boom.

Both good, both different enough to be enjoyed in different ways. Personally, I mainly only enjoy Coke when drunk along with food, it just seems too sugary to me by itself. But Pepsi I enjoy either by itself or with a meal, but it's less good than Coke with a meal I feel.

And that's not even getting into the slightly different flavors of each of them between Can vs. Plastic Bottle vs. Glass Bottle.

Spoiler

Glass bottle Coke and Can Pepsi FTW!

All the more reason to bring back Crystal Pepsi I guess.

I really wish they would!
That came out before my time so I never got to try it out, and I'm sure the only stuff that remains has congealed into something resembling the consistency and potential for life as primordial ooze.

 

[zero_suit]

Coke sucks (excluding Mexican Coke in a glass bottle).

 

[cheststrongwell]

I mix coke and Pepsi when I get a fountain drink. Good shit.

 

[ab.aeterno]

Thanks for the update! I was worried you might have slipped. Good to hear all is well.

Was about to post the same thing. It's like walking into a discussion about what fast food is best, declaring you're irrelevant to the discussion, then walking away. Great, thanks, congrats. Who gives a shit?

I've always liked Coke better. Pepsi always tasted like syrup or chemicals in a way I couldn't stand. I'll try throwback some time.

 

[rezuth]

In order for humans to reach the equivalent of even the lowest cancer-causing dose in mice, a woman would have to drink 37,000 cans (12 oz) a day for the rest of her life, and a man would have to drink 95,000 cans a day. These figures come from a slightly more conservative study of colas done last year that found an average of 130 μg of 4-MEI per can as opposed to the 138 μg found by CSP

 

[zma1013]

Coke wins because it has just the right balance of "sugars" in it. Pepsi is too sweet.

Also, how does McDonald's coke taste so much better than any other fast food restaurant's coke?

 

[Messofanego]

What the fuck is Dr. Snap

Jon Stewart sponsored soda

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Dang. I drink like two to three cans a day.

Slowly moving to sparkling soda anyway, thankfully.

 

[.la1n]

Coke wins because it has just the right balance of "sugars" in it. Pepsi is too sweet.

Also, how does McDonald's coke taste so much better than any other fast food restaurant's coke?

I always thought Sprite at McDonald's tasted significantly better than anywhere else, it's a conspiracy.

 

[Hitokage]

Coke wins because it has just the right balance of "sugars" in it. Pepsi is too sweet.

Both are commonly sold with the inferior tasting sweetener HFCS. Real soda uses real cane sugar.

 

[SlipperySlope]

4-Methylimidazole may be formed in the browning of certain foods through the Maillard reaction between carbohydrates and amino-containing compounds. In particular, it is found in roasted foods, grilled meats, coffee and in types of caramel coloring produced with ammonia-based processes.

It's in so many common foods and drinks... why is this even an issue?

 

[SwiftDeath]

Why the hell are the 4-Mel levels of Pepsi and Diet Pepsi so so much higher in New York than any other region for Pepsi?

Like what is that about?

I mix coke and Pepsi when I get a fountain drink. Good shit.

What restaurant/fast food place is going to have both coke and Pepsi? That's redundant as hell

 

[rezuth]

Both are commonly sold with the inferior tasting sweetener HFCS. Real soda uses real cane sugar.

You live in the wrong part of the world!

Also I agree that the syrup cola you get at mcdonalds and sf bio etc taste a lot better than out of the can. Plastic bottles are the worst, I don't even bother with them anymore.

 

[Booty Patrol]

But has Beyonce promoted Coke? I don't think so.

Pepsi wins.

 

[Rodney McKay]

Coke wins because it has just the right balance of "sugars" in it. Pepsi is too sweet.

Disagree. If I drink coke straight without any food it makes my teeth feel disgusting. Don't know if it's the sugar, the level of carbonation, or the acidity, but something about it doesn't feel as good in my mouth as Pepsi.

 

[zma1013]

Both are commonly sold with the inferior tasting sweetener HFCS. Real soda uses real cane sugar.

That's why I put it in quotes.