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Persona 4 Dancing All Night |OT| Aha! Is This Our Dance?

Idk what it is but I'm enjoying the story in this a lot more than I did the Arena games. Could it be the writing? I can't quite put my finger on it.
 
So I just opened my CE, and came to find that it had TWO Teddie key chains inside... it was only supposed to include one, right?

I'm not one to complain, but I was very surprised haha.

Anyway now to install and update! Can't wait to get started.
 
My Disco Fever copy came in. Definitely nice in terms of bonuses, especially with an entire soundtrack for once. Started up the story and it's definitely taking a while to get to the actual meat, but then again this is a spinoff of a game that infamously starts 2 hours into itself...
 
FluxWaveZ said:
No, it's explained at the very beginning.
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Oh, is it? I must've missed it then. Endgame spoilers:
I caught a glimpse of them post-P4G outifts while skimming through the extra chapter in the JP version...thought that's when they explained it.

Now I'm curious. What's the reason?
 
bigkrev said:
This game has made a terrible first impression on me. The lack of distinct shapes/colors on the notes is making the game really hard for me to follow, and whoever decided those scratch notes were a good idea deserves death. I'm going to keep at it, but I'm already worried I wasted my money.
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It gets better because you get used to it. It's weird. The UI isn't good to follow the notes.

I first tried free play on normal and failed. Then, I ended up playing story mode in the easy difficulty (didn't saw there was an option for normal, I kept thinking they eventually would throw me a normal song). It helped me to get used to the UI, after that I went straight to hard and then All Night.

The scratch notes, I am also not a fan. It's nice they are optional, but holy hell the screen is already polluted enough without them.
 
Zareka said:
Oh, is it? I must've missed it then. Endgame spoilers:
I caught a glimpse of them post-P4G outifts while skimming through the extra chapter in the JP version...thought that's when they explained it.

Now I'm curious. What's the reason?
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I think it would be very hard to miss unless you're just skipping through dialogue. There's an extended conversation about it in chapter 1-8: Investigation Team.
 
To anyone currently struggling, this game will grow on you. I was scared and disoriented at first, but in a couple weeks I was perfecting songs on the highest difficulty.
with the speed mod active, it's the only way to play!
 
bigkrev said:
This game has made a terrible first impression on me. The lack of distinct shapes/colors on the notes is making the game really hard for me to follow, and whoever decided those scratch notes were a good idea deserves death. I'm going to keep at it, but I'm already worried I wasted my money.
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People need to switch the fever rings/scratch notes to L/R as soon as possible so they don't get too use to the sticks. L/R is way better. Also the rings/scratch notes aren't even a big deal since you can miss them and they don't negatively impact you. They benefit you and are needed for a King Crazy rating, but don't fret if you miss them.
 
So I never finished Persona 4, and got this mainly because I'm a bit of a rhythm game junkie. Do I need to finish Persona 4 first?

I've already had something major spoiled for me by Ultimax 2.
 
StarCreator said:
So I never finished Persona 4, and got this mainly because I'm a bit of a rhythm game junkie. Do I need to finish Persona 4 first?
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There's a fair bit of spoilers, and the story mode does assume you know everything there is to know already. If you don't care about that, you should be okay.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
I think it would be very hard to miss unless you're just skipping through dialogue. There's an extended conversation about it in chapter 1-8: Investigation Team.
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I'll go back and play it then. I've not skipped any dialogue so I have absolutely no idea how I missed it. Feeling pretty silly right now!

Edit: Ooooh, that conversation. Yeah, I didn't miss it, but what I did miss was the specific line about them working on their hair. That's what was throwing me for a loop.
 
Is there a way to see what the costumes look like in each DLC pack and who they are for? I'm really curious as to what comes in the Persona Classic Set 1
 
2Shea said:
So I just opened my CE, and came to find that it had TWO Teddie key chains inside... it was only supposed to include one, right?

I'm not one to complain, but I was very surprised haha.

Anyway now to install and update! Can't wait to get started.
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M-may I have one?
 
I was hoping to get a King Crazy on my first go at Specialist on Hard, but my nerves prevented me from doing it. Also man, Matt Mercer does a pretty good fake Kanji. I'm also dying due to some of the dialogue.

"Yeah, that right there's my senpai!" or some nonsense. It's a bit corny to hear Yu talking about friendship and shit during the actual rhythm game portions too. It's funny for the moment, but will probably get grating later on. I had no problem with the Japanese before, but I guess I just ignored it since I couldn't understand it.

Edit- One Good on my first ever try at Reach Out To The Truth DLC song. 842 Total Notes and One Good. Fuckkk.
 
Skrams said:
"Yeah, that right there's my senpai!" or some nonsense. It's a bit corny to hear Yu talking about friendship and shit during the actual rhythm game portions too. It's funny for the moment, but will probably get grating later on. I had no problem with the Japanese before, but I guess I just ignored it since I couldn't understand it.
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Keep in mind that Story Mode features unique dialogue during gameplay segments that you won't hear in Free Dance mode (if you didn't know already).
 
Forgot this was coming out, and then I got the shipping notification for the LE from Amazon.


Well, I guess that's that.

Should be pretty cool, right?
 
I like this a lot. I wasn't sure I would because the Miku games I've tried never did, but the Persona hook definitely gets me.
 
ultron87 said:
I like this a lot. I wasn't sure I would because the Miku games I've tried never did, but the Persona hook definitely gets me.
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I tried Project Diva f in anticipation for P4D before its JPN release, and I didn't really like it. Mostly because I'm not too into the music, but other stuff also made it a poor experience like long load times, lack of online leaderboards, the UI, the touch screen inputs, etc.

P4D was an improvement for me in pretty much every way, other than the lack of insanely difficult songs.
 
Yeah, switching the scratch to L/R helps a little, but I still am not having any fun playing this game.

I'll put it down for a few days and try to come back to it, because it's clear that it isn't going to click with me overnight.
 
I'm only an hour in but the story mode seems much more fun than what I played of P4A's. And the presentation is gorgeous, as usual with Persona games.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
Keep in mind that Story Mode features unique dialogue during gameplay segments that you won't hear in Free Dance mode (if you didn't know already).
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I'll listen for it when I get to story mode eventually.

"Alright, I can do a little fanservice."
FluxWaveZ said:
I tried Project Diva f in anticipation for P4D before its JPN release, and I didn't really like it. Mostly because I'm not too into the music, but other stuff also made it a poor experience like long load times, lack of online leaderboards, the UI, the touch screen inputs, etc.

P4D was an improvement for me in pretty much every way, other than the lack of insanely difficult songs.
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I understand the complaints and hope Diva X does something about them, but Miku's insanely difficult songs and the note gameplay eeks it out for me still. It probably helped that the songs grew on me too since I had no opinion going into them.

Edit- One good at the last note of Pursuing My True Self. I want to die.
 
Man, I finished the songs on normal, and experienced a pretty steep learning curve (day 1 patch wasn't out so I couldn't use LR for scratches) and now I'm in hard with the LR patch.

Good god. It is way too hard to play this game and it's bumming me out. Normal has become not exciting enough and hard is killing me. I feel like my eyes are splitting and I'm feeling actual discomfort in my eyes after failing Pursuing My True Self (Shinichi Osawa Remix) about 10 times. I did eventually pass it though.

I don't know... I think this might be the worst implementation of a rhythm game I have experienced. Splitting the notes between both sides is pretty bad. I can't keep up with everything on screen because the notes like to break their clockwise/counterclockwise patterns sometimes and go all over the place. It also feels like some of those notes are designed to get lost in the mess of a screen sometimes.

Also, tying the pass/fail to the health bar is pretty lame. It's the reason I couldn't pass the above song. I had a fine score plenty of times but made some mistakes at the end and couldn't get back into green before the end.

It'd be nice to see a patch to adjust hype penalties on missed notes in Hard.
 
SuperWristbands said:
Man, I finished the songs on normal, and experienced a pretty steep learning curve (day 1 patch wasn't out so I couldn't use LR for scratches) and now I'm in hard with the LR patch.

Good god. It is way too hard to play this game and it's bumming me out. Normal has become not exciting enough and hard is killing me. I feel like my eyes are splitting and I'm feeling actual discomfort in my eyes after failing Pursuing My True Self (Shinichi Osawa Remix) about 10 times. I did eventually pass it though.

I don't know... I think this might be the worst implementation of a rhythm game I have experienced. Splitting the notes between both sides is pretty bad. I can't keep up with everything on screen because the notes like to break their clockwise/counterclockwise patterns sometimes and go all over the place. It also feels like some of those notes are designed to get lost in the mess of a screen sometimes.
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Yeah, the UI is a mess. It's really obvious that Atlus has never made a rhythm game before because the game commits some serious rookie mistakes.
 
SuperWristbands said:
Man, I finished the songs on normal, and experienced a pretty steep learning curve (day 1 patch wasn't out so I couldn't use LR for scratches) and now I'm in hard with the LR patch.

Good god. It is way too hard to play this game and it's bumming me out. Normal has become not exciting enough and hard is killing me. I feel like my eyes are splitting and I'm feeling actual discomfort in my eyes after failing Pursuing My True Self (Shinichi Osawa Remix) about 10 times. I did eventually pass it though.

I don't know... I think this might be the worst implementation of a rhythm game I have experienced. Splitting the notes between both sides is pretty bad. I can't keep up with everything on screen because the notes like to break their clockwise/counterclockwise patterns sometimes and go all over the place. It also feels like some of those notes are designed to get lost in the mess of a screen sometimes.

Also, tying the pass/fail to the health bar is pretty lame. It's the reason I couldn't pass the above song. I had a fine score plenty of times but made some mistakes at the end and couldn't get back into green before the end.

It'd be nice to see a patch to adjust hype penalties on missed notes in Hard.
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Use mods.

And it's weird to see several complaints about the UI. Are you guys comparing this to Project Diva f—P4D's closest analog—where the notes literally appear all over the screen with no rules associated with them, and are sometimes even created to intentionally misdirect and confuse the player?
 
Guess Who said:
Yeah, the UI is a mess. It's really obvious that Atlus has never made a rhythm game before because the game commits some serious rookie mistakes.
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Ahem.

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The UI in that one was worse.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
Use mods.

And it's weird to see several complaints about the UI. Are you guys comparing this to Project Diva f—P4D's closest analog—where the notes literally appear all over the screen with no rules associated with them, and are sometimes even created to intentionally misdirect and confuse the player?
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Project Diva F is a mess at times. You are absolutely right. However it doesn't demand my eyes split to get all the info, and missing a good chunk of notes will still get me through a song, even if it I just scrape. Or at least that's how I feel while thinking about it while playing P4DAN.

I don't think Diva F is a great rhythm game either. In fact it held the title of worst rhythm game before I played this (it wasn't that bad though). Project Diva however, was totally playable for me, even on Extreme. I couldn't complete all the songs, but I was able to enjoy myself. P4DAN is a pretty big step down from Diva imo.

Also, I'll just say Project Mirai DX did it really well. I'd be nice if that style made it's way into the main Project Diva games or if they could get rid of those intentional misdirects that you mention.
 
SuperWristbands said:
Project Diva F is a mess at times. You are absolutely right. However it doesn't demand my eyes split to get all the info, and missing a good chunk of notes will still get me through a song, even if it I just scrape. Or at least that's how I feel while thinking about it while playing P4DAN.

I don't think Diva F is a great rhythm game either. In fact it held the title of worst rhythm game before I played this (it wasn't that bad though). Project Diva however, was totally playable for me, even on Extreme. I couldn't complete all the songs, but I was able to enjoy myself. P4DAN is a pretty big step down from Diva imo.

Also, I'll just say Project Mirai DX did it really well. I'd be nice if that style made it's way into the main Project Diva games or if they could get rid of those intentional misdirects that you mention.
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Yeah, the whole "what, would you rather it be like Project Diva?" shit is a false dichotomy. Plenty of rhythm games have clear, readable UIs. DDR did better fifteen years ago.
 
Mirai is a great but easy game, with some well needed visibility options. Diva is lacking.

I'll be hitting this game up on PAL release because I'm busy and I'll probably want to bite on the Break Out Of... DLC despite the outrageous price. Listening to the soundtrack, most of the remixes don't sound that great to be honest. Hopefully story mode is good.
 
Guess Who said:
Yeah, the whole "what, would you rather it be like Project Diva?" shit is a false dichotomy. Plenty of rhythm games have clear, readable UIs. DDR did better fifteen years ago.
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Or Rock Band.

Or DJ Portable Max.

For me, it's really just having one area to focus on. No need to do it the way this game, or Project Diva do it. It's a mess in both cases.
 
SuperWristbands said:
Project Diva F is a mess at times. You are absolutely right. However it doesn't demand my eyes split to get all the info, and missing a good chunk of notes will still get me through a song, even if it I just scrape. Or at least that's how I feel while thinking about it while playing P4DAN.
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I see. I can't say I have had that issue tracking notes in P4D after getting used to it, but I think I can understand it.

Guess Who said:
Yeah, the whole "what, would you rather it be like Project Diva?" shit is a false dichotomy. Plenty of rhythm games have clear, readable UIs. DDR did better fifteen years ago.
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That's not what I'm saying; what I'm hoping is that people aren't being hypocrites and somehow claiming that Diva f's note patterns somehow don't become as confusing, or more so, than P4D's.

For those who can't keep track, though: remember that note speed can always be adjusted in the options menu. And, again, there are two mods which dramatically change the speed of notes that you can test out. The game is very customizable.
 
I feel like, for every rhythm game I play I need to develop some kind of crazy dynamic acuity where I'm looking but not really looking at notes and my eyes are constantly roving around then get wide and still. This can't be healthy.

Playing through hard right now and haha, half my hits are perfect then Gooooood. Oh man, so bad.
 
Verelios said:
I feel like, for every rhythm game I play I need to develop some kind of crazy dynamic acuity where I'm looking but not really looking at notes and my eyes are constantly roving around then get wide and still. This can't be healthy.

Playing through hard right now and haha, half my hits are perfect then Gooooood. Oh man, so bad.
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It's kinda true...I feel like whenever I get in the zone in these rhythm games, I'm not really looking at the notes, and more just listening to the music. Only looking at the prompts on the screen so I know which button to press.
 
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