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Petition to split California into six states gets green light
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A Human Becoming
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This guy doesn't understand the purpose of the Senate. The House of Representatives is for population.
Jive Turkey
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Nah it's more fun to listen to all those eastern Washington republicans cry about how Seattle steals all their elections.
I live here as well and spent another portion of my life in Orange County.
I'm referring to both Silicon Valley and Orange County's tendencies to perceive themselves as a persecuted City on a Hill, being held back by the rest of the state/country. Both areas are cultural and sociopolitical bubbles in suburbia sprawl, with a sense of being separate from and above the rest of the state.
I know I'm painting with broad strokes here, but frankly this is the image defined by the most vocal and powerful elements of both areas: the moneyed, conservative high-society circles of OC and the corporate libertarian/technocrats from tech and VC sectors of Silicon valley.
Gentleman Jack
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Don't forget the inevitable war over water rights between them.
NobleXenon
Member
Yup, the purpose of the Senate is to screw big states and the House of Reps is to screw cities. Our current system favors large wastelands of dirt.
Duxxy3
Member
In a way it does make sense. The governor of that state has more responsibility than most presidents.
edit: The electoral college may have to be thrown out if this were actually done. State lines would be drawn around voter registration, and that would change every presidential election.
edit: The electoral college may have to be thrown out if this were actually done. State lines would be drawn around voter registration, and that would change every presidential election.
You have to keep it in perspective.
You are aware of the fact that Canada only has ~35 million people, right? That's a little more than 10% of the U.S.'s population.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This guy is completely delusional. You can't just internally declare yourself a smaller state.
Nothing, the idea is beyond untenable. Its like asking what would happen if the US were to invade and seize Switzerland. California can't unilaterally declare itself a different state.
Nothing, the idea is beyond untenable. Its like asking what would happen if the US were to invade and seize Switzerland. California can't unilaterally declare itself a different state.
Hey now, what did we do to deserve this.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
would never fly federally even if it got to the point of being enacted
Whichever one has control of the water supply.
Think bigger. Your states should all be the size of Western Australia.
Elect this man.
Top California, Bottom California, Up California, Down California, Charm California, Strange California.
(Twinned with Strange Texas!)
Trying to figure out if this is a devious gerrymandering gambit. California being so strongly Democratic, but are there a few Republican strongholds?
teruterubozu
Member
The GOP would love this.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I needed somewhere neutral and semi-random for my example. :lol
The parts of California with people in them are all democrat controlled. It would be a net loss in Senators and no gain in the House since the districts would be roughly the same as they are now.
A "venture capitalist" <snicker>. There is apparently NO LIMIT to the idiocy that rich folks will spout, since they are completely insulated from any and all consequences in our society. They also believe that just because they have money, their ideas are somehow of more merit than anyone else's. Sad.
There's a lot of shit that guy doesn't understand, apparently. Kind of scary that he's got wealth and influence.
The best part is that they think they're somehow being clever or insightful. I guess that's why they're here and not in Washington DC, where the real political operators are. They'd be chewed up and spat out in a minute.
MarkMclovin
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Out of interest, how were the size of the states formed? Did someone get a map of America, and using a ruler just drew a few lines and was like, yeah that'll do? It's weird seeing the country split with straight lines.
Lol with LA and all it's problems. Southern California wants nothing to do with them.
Aaron Strife
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Someone on dailykos ran presidential election numbers for these states and this basically gives the GOP a majority of the EVs for a (former) state that Obama won more than 60% in.
Totally not an agenda.
Totally not an agenda.
DonasaurusRex
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Aaron Strife
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Also I like how his rationale is that California has become ungovernable when it's actually doing better under Brown than it has... since Brown was last governor, probably.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Why in God's name would you split the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area like that?
Anticitizen One
Banned
Except that Californians aren't hicks
Angelus Errare
Banned
I always felt that California should be split into Socal and Norcal.
NobleGundam
Banned
The Hunger Games is coming...
I really don't think it does, it really does sound like bitter Intrastate wars just like Upstate NY vs NYC, south jersey vs north jersey etc ..
Mr.Awesome
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"Only people". That's a lot of people, unless you're on GAF. But I imagine they wouldn't actually want this due to the Senate tipping very heavily in the Democrats favor I would have to imagine. Two states make more sense for them I would think.
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