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Remembering 9/11 vs not remembering 9/11 is a good cutoff thoughPew can declare anything they'd like, that doesn't make them the final say in it.
Remembering 9/11 vs not remembering 9/11 is a good cutoff though
1995 is usually considered the start of the "Internet era" though. And that was 6 years before 9/11.Yeah, and also how life was actually like before it, too.
But that makes 9/11 too much of a factor in defining the generation. It’s more about the modern internet and social media propagation that has really changed society between generations rather than 9/11. It’s just that it happens right at the turning point
Technology, in particular the rapid evolution of how people communicate and interact, is another generation-shaping consideration. Baby Boomers grew up as television expanded dramatically, changing their lifestyles and connection to the world in fundamental ways. Generation X grew up as the computer revolution was taking hold, and Millennials came of age during the internet explosion.
That sounds more like a case for there needing to be an additional generation. Folks born in the 90's Should be millenials. Not those of us born in the 80s.Alright, ill make my case why I, as a 23 year old, still relate more to a 33 year old than a 13 year old despite me having internet as a kid.
YouTube shows, Web 2.0, and the Wii are probably the most significant innovations separating the childhood culture of Millennials and that of Generation Z. Early 2000s kids (like me, born 1995) who grew up with Yu-Gi-Oh!, early Spongebob, GameCube, candy iMacs, and the like can still be somewhat compared to Bush '41-era kids who watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, collected Garbage Pail Kids cards, played NES, and owned an Apple II or Commodore 64 at home; though the shows and quality of technology had evolved drastically, the overall structure of childhood was quite similar - a mix between edgy cartoon shows, mascot-driven video game consoles, and a *mild* dose of digital technology. True, we had Internet and you didn't, but early 2000s kids mostly used Internet just for playing Nick.com games etc., while we still balanced the rest of our time with outdoor activities. Social media did not factor into kids' childhoods yet because it was barely there; the Internet was still in its Web 1.0 phase that it wouldn't fully leave until around 2006/2007.
Kids growing up in the LATE 2000s (like my little brother, born 2001), however, during the era of Phineas & Ferb, Hannah Montana, YouTube, Wii, and eventually mobile apps, lived primarily digital lives while still children. I can easily relate to the videos posted by James Rolfe (born 1980, at the very end of Generation X), even though I'm over a decade younger than him, because I played a lot of side-scrolling video games and mostly read game manuals for guidance as opposed to googling everything. I still feel closer to his gaming generation than anybody who grew up with the Wii and up.
What about remembering perestroika vs not remembering perestroika?Remembering 9/11 vs not remembering 9/11 is a good cutoff though
True but I was making more of a case for how I relate more to those born in the 80s than those born in the 00s, and how we might relate a little closer than you first think.That sounds more like a case for there needing to be an additional generation. Folks born in the 90's Should be millenials. Not those of us born in the 80s.
What about remembering perestroika vs not remembering perestroika?
1995 is usually considered the start of the "Internet era" though. And that was 6 years before 9/11.
I would argue that 9/11's impact would vary even in the states. I grew up well before 9/11 (1993 was my birth year) and (despite being in America during the incident), it never really made an impact for me. I remember the day vividly. We were let out of class, the teachers were freakin' out but I was just ecstatic to get home to my PS2. As the bus dropped me off, I walked home and saw my dad/mom crying as smoke from the first plane hit. I thought it was a movie so I just went upstairs, turned on my console and played Yu-Gi-Oh: Forbidden Memories.Eh, who am I to argue with Pew, but I think their cut-off point is very americocentric. I don't disagree that 9/11 wasn't an important global event, but outside the U.S. its impact varied to different degrees. I'm a bit skeptical how they so easily dismiss technological progress, because the internet had a far greater influence on societal changes.
It's fair to assume post-millennials grew up with social media in an 'always on' environment. But before that we had the web 2.0 revolution and the proliferation of mobile phones that vastly impacted the previous generation and that isn't even mentioned at all. Dating millennials back to 1981 is just way too far, back then the Internet wasn't really a thing. It kinda lumps together those who grew up without and those who grew up with the internet.
I still feel the date goes back way too far. To me, if you remember life before the internet and cell phones, you shouldn't be considered a millennial.
But even that's dodgy, though. I was born in 89, and I remember life before internet and cell phones. Where would you even put someone like me, if not in the millennial bracket? I certainly don't fit in with Gen X.
We can all agree that the generation after 1980-1995 is completely bonkers though.
I mean, Tide Pods? Flat Earthers?
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These are things they cannot possibly know about, let alone relate to. It’s not the same generation, therefore I’m not a millennial.
The generation you're referencing is Gen Z, though. Me and you are Millennials.
I agree but I get the feeling that these definitions of generations are made by and for Americans. Maybe it's just me but I haven't noticed anyone outside the US (or websites with Americans) talk about baby boomers for example.Eh, who am I to argue with Pew, but I think their cut-off point is very americocentric. I don't disagree that 9/11 wasn't an important global event, but outside the U.S. its impact varied to different degrees.
Most definitions I’ve come across for millennials has been 1980-20XX.
If they’ve got a new classification for people born 2000-present, this is the first I’ve heard of it.
What about remembering perestroika vs not remembering perestroika?
Most definitions I’ve come across for millennials has been 1980-20XX.
If they’ve got a new classification for people born 2000-present, this is the first I’ve heard of it.
Exactly. Me and many other people my age (23) did in fact experience dial up, VHS tapes, and cassettes in our childhoods because they were still around in the early 2000s. VHS for one was not discontinued until 2006, cassettes were still used in preschool for me, dial up remained a popular alternative to broadband until 2006, etc.
Most folks born in the early 80s (except you) just seem to assume that if you were born in 1995, you have nothing in common with them, never grew up with old tech at all, and they just automatically toss you in with 13 year olds born in 2005. Why do they think analog tech ended so much earlier than it did, or that they're just "Xennial things"?