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Pewdiepie claims, almost certainly trolling, that he will delete channel at 50m subs

but why

how is youtube trying to screw him over exactly?

Pretty much Youtube has been unsubscribing people from channels, and have started to suggest either older or viral videos. And most big Youtubers get the majority of their views from the recommended tab or in suggestions on other videos, so Youtubers who upload on a consistent basis don't get their new vids high lighted. So now alot of Youtubers videos average view counts are dropping by a significant amount, like in some cases 20-30%. It's been a pretty big issue lately with alot of Youtubers.

It's not just him h3h3 have mentioned that they're being screwed over too

Alot of Youtubers are, pretty much anyone who does Youtube for a living has talked about it.
 
I don't mind pewdiepie but he's changed a lot over the years. He used to be close to YouTube but not anymore and to be honest I can't say I feel super sad for him. He makes more money then probably majority of us on this forum and he talks about clickbait titles but he does it quite often.
 
Hes basically blaming youtubes new organization of the homepage on his lack of growth in views or steady viewcount or whatever. I think at a certain point he starts talking about how much better his videos are than other peoples.

It's not just him h3h3 have mentioned that they're being screwed over too
 
Probably. I'm just saying that to play the world's smallest violin for any YouTuber who makes tens of thousands of dollars a month generating content that requires zero talent or educational background who feels they are getting "fucked over".

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He won't.

He'll get 50 million then claim he's worked things out with Youtube and won't quit his channel.

The idea he'll 'start again' with a new channel is not something anyone in his position he'd want.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if he does do it, but if I hated Youtube as much as some of these people tend to say, I'd just become a Twitch streamer.

Maybe that's what he'll do.

I dunno, it looks like he's lost interest in games. A lot of his videos nowadays are just vlogs and stuff.
 
I've been complaining about how YouTube doesn't care about their star creators for years. How they keep making these awful changes and never fixing anything for users and creators alike. If some of them do decide to delete their account, then this is the boiling point.
 
He won't.

He'll get 50 million then claim he's worked things out with Youtube and won't quit his channel.

The idea he'll 'start again' with a new channel is not something anyone in his position he'd want.

Not going to lie, I'd do it, it sounds like a lot of fun just starting over, maybe trying new things.

Yeah i'd lose a ton of money, but if I had the money he already has, I'd be fine with it. I'm a very content person when it comes to money.
 
It's such a huge jump from "Youtube is shitty" to "I'm gonna delete my channel which is worth millions". Not saying these issues aren't important, but the fact that he even says he's gonna start a new Youtube channel defeats the purpose of even doing this. That new channel will be successful instantly.

But w/e. It's his decision.
 
I'd believe him. He's made enough money to last several life times, and being a public figure - especially one with a live and unfiltered online audience - fucking sucks.

Free yourself man!
 
It's a bargaining video to get YouTube's attention. They've been messing with algorithms that hurt content creators for a long time, but recently it's gotten very bad and he's got the biggest channel so he can swing his dick around. Dramatic title from a huge name. Lots of people becoming aware of these issues.

Seems to have worked. Got that #1 trending tag.
 
Would him deleting his channel even really affect youtube that much, especially if he's just going to start a new one? It's not like people are just going to stop using youtube after all. It seems like something that would really only hurt him and nobody else tbh
 
Probably. I'm just saying that to play the world's smallest violin for any YouTuber who makes tens of thousands of dollars a month generating content that requires zero talent or educational background who feels they are getting "fucked over".

Zero talent huh?

And why the fuck would educational background matter in the entertainment business?
 
;/ if you actually watched his videos and kept up to date on YouTube, you'd see that he's deliberately click baiting because it seems to be what YouTube are rewarding these days
 
Would him deleting his channel even really affect youtube that much, especially if he's just going to start a new one? It's not like people are just going to stop using youtube after all. It seems like something that would really only hurt him and nobody else tbh

Yeah. It would still be great for YouTube if he just moves to a new channel.

It's not much of a bargaining video in that regard.
 
I thought I heard he wanted to delete his channel so he could make a new one and know that everyone following his new channel would be in it for the different kind of content he wants to make because he doesn't want to continue to do the type of stuff he's most known for. Seems likely he's telling the truth if that's the case.
 
Well, even if he is serious, he mentioned creating another channel and just doing it over again. Maybe he's wanting to test himself or test their analytics? Honestly, with the amount of subscribers he has, I'm sure they'll all just find him again anyway in no time. I suppose it'll be interesting to see what happens, but I don't follow the guy, nor do I really care to, but I'm sure an update will pop up somewhere in due time. Also I never thought I'd see Pewdiepie wear a Deafheaven shirt, haha. First thing I noticed watching the video.
 
So he only gets $3 million a year instead of $4 million?

It means that his fans, when they subscribe, aren't seeing his videos.

There are channels who I like content from and I can't see their shit until WAY late. But sure, hate on Pewds because he makes money :/
 
Probably. I'm just saying that to play the world's smallest violin for any YouTuber who makes tens of thousands of dollars a month generating content that requires zero talent or educational background who feels they are getting "fucked over".

if it's so easy why aren't you and a million other people doing it?
 
Not going to lie, I'd do it, it sounds like a lot of fun just starting over, maybe trying new things.

Yeah i'd lose a ton of money, but if I had the money he already has, I'd be fine with it. I'm a very content person when it comes to money.

Absolutely, and if he did start again I'm sure he'd get a crapton of subs to follow him to a new channel.

Who knows maybe he'd like to start a new channel for the freedom and creativity it would bring.

But he's also very good at bait and switch tactics and I think this is probably just a stunt

Either way I like the fact he's taking Youtube to task on issues that are hurting the rest of us small time users.
 
Yeah. It would still be great for YouTube if he just moves to a new channel.

It's not much of a bargaining video in that regard.

Yeah. It'd probably be more helpful if youtube had any sort of serious competition he could jump to, but as is it seems like a pointless plea, unless he just wants to draw attention to the issue and has no plans to actually delete the channel
 
Probably. I'm just saying that to play the world's smallest violin for any YouTuber who makes tens of thousands of dollars a month generating content that requires zero talent or educational background who feels they are getting "fucked over".

Then where your millions of dollars?

Doing YouTube professionally ain't easy and it's even harder finding an audience.
 
Flame shield up.

There are people doing work that actually contribute something substantial and foundational to society, and they get paid dick-all for it, especially compared to what a guy screaming into a camera gets paid.

You guys don't need me to tell you that.

He's "deleting his channel"? He knows how much clout he has. He knows that literally anything he says will be eaten up with glee by his fan base. And if he says something as "controversial" as that, he knows he's looking to generate buzz and attention.

He will not go away. We know this.

I'm a cynical bastard, GAF. Especially when it comes to whiny, entitled YouTubers who have become extremely wealthy because of a system that gave them the freedom to amass such wealth in the first place.
 
Will never understand how he is so popular. Ever.

It's actually quite an easy concept to grasp.

People enjoy watching his videos, they want to see more of his videos, so they subscribe. That is how he got popular, by people liking and subscribing to his videos.

Glad I could help!
 
It's not a troll. You can see his twitter conversations with people on it that he doesn't really mention in the video. He'll be rooting out inactive subs and absolutely wants to send a message to Youtube because he has the clout to do it. Youtube will be losing A LOT of ad revenue with his old videos deleted and PDP really doesn't care about the money as much as some people think, mainly because he already has enough and the guy lives in a crappy apartment as it is and could live off the interest for the rest of his life.

And he's not the only one that has made declarations like this. If this is what it takes for Youtube to get their shit in order, I'm all for it.
 
Flame shield up.

There are people doing work that actually contribute something substantial and foundational to society, and they get paid dick-all for it, especially compared to what a guy screaming into a camera gets paid.

You guys don't need me to tell you that.

He's "deleting his channel"? He knows how much clout he has. He knows that literally anything he says will be eaten up with glee by his fan base. And if he says something as "controversial" as that, he knows he's looking to generate buzz and attention.

He will not go away. We know this.

I'm a cynical bastard, GAF. Especially when it comes to whiny, entitled YouTubers who have become extremely wealthy because of a system who gave them the freedom to amass such wealth in the first place.

He's in the entertainment business. Contribution to society is not how anyone's pay is determined, and I don't see why youtubers don't deserve their cut of ad revenue that they are generating for Google. Do you think actors and athletes don't deserve pay either and that their corporate owners should get all of the profits that they are responsible for?
 
It's not a troll. You can see his twitter conversations with people on it that he doesn't really mention in the video. He'll be rooting out inactive subs and absolutely wants to send a message to Youtube because he has the clout to do it. Youtube will be losing A LOT of ad revenue with his old videos deleted and PDP really doesn't care about the money as much as some people think, mainly because he already has enough and the guy lives in a crappy apartment as it is and could live off the interest for the rest of his life.

And he's not the only one that has made declarations like this. If this is what it takes for Youtube to get their shit in order, I'm all for it.

What makes you think the people who would've watched his old videos wouldn't just watch other videos instead if his channel is deleted? Especially since they'd probably be more likely to be new to the channel anyways if they're watching a bunch of old videos
 
There are people doing work that actually contribute something substantial and foundational to society, and they get paid dick-all for it, especially compared to what a guy screaming into a camera gets paid.

You can say this about a lot of industries.

Being a big Youtuber ain't easy. I'm friends with a recently-reached 1 mil subber. The guy barely sleeps. Video editing, SEO, game selection, actually recording the videos (which is only about 5% of the work), keeping up with the community; there's A LOT to do.
 
Good lord you guys are whiney. Just because he's a rich guy who makes content that you don't enjoy doesn't make him an entitled asshole.
 
What makes you think the people who would've watched his old videos wouldn't just watch other videos instead if his channel is deleted? Especially since they'd probably be more likely to be new to the channel anyways if they're watching a bunch of old videos

When you have 50 million fans, it's not exactly a zero sum game. Yes, some people would move on to Markiplier or Jacksepticeye (actually, want his take on this since he's a Gaffer), but many would also just quit Youtube altogether.

And trust me, I've asked the same thing before. The way the algorithm, and people on the internet themselves work, is just flat out bizarre. Like why would they quit Youtube if the guy's still around under a new channel? I still have trouble wrapping my head around how the math works.
 
Well I don't. Do you have a better phrase to describe owners of sports franchises or movie studios?

I mean, if I have to spell it out, the sentence structure suggests that the individuals are owned by a corporation which says all kinds of (I guess unintentional?) things about media personalities etc. No, I don't have a better phrase to describe it, that's why I think it's funny.
 
People like Pewdiepie and Defranco who are constantly shitting on Youtube's shitty policies and who bring light to it to their millions of subscribers are probably huge thorns on the side of corporate. I'm sure they'd love nothing more to have someone with as many subscribers as Pewdiepie be their yes man.

So yeah it sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory but maybe they are trying to slowly phase them out behind the scenes, to make way for some younger, more naive, people that they can influence.

Who cares about Defranco.

He is just a stupid drama channel. I'd be happy if him and Keemstar leave YouTube as a result of this.
 
That was hard to watch. Made it 4 minutes.


Wah. My blogs only get over 1 million views.

Jeebus.

Out of touch much.

If you ACTUALLY WATCH the recent videos, he explains it pretty clearly. It's not just affecting him, it's also affecting smaller channels that are trying to grow, as well.

As he says in the videos you didn't watch, it's not about money (because he doesn't need it). It's about the platform going down a crappy direction, and people who spend their time, money, and effort to entertain their audiences getting screwed by Youtube algorithms shifts. This isn't just a hobby for many people. It can be a full time job. Youtube is a full fledged entertainment platform like television, movies, etc., and it requires the same financial/emotional/personal investment.
 
I mean, if I have to spell it out, the sentence structure suggests that the individuals are owned by a corporation which says all kinds of (I guess unintentional?) things about media personalities etc. No, I don't have a better phrase to describe it, that's why I think it's funny.

There are very few careers that couldn't be described this way. It's not really something unique to those in the entertainment industry.
 
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