I do like that Youtubers who hold lots of sway are talking about the issue of people losing subscribers. It definitely hurts your mid range youtubers who don't really have a voice in the wider Youtube sphere. Sucks though that the website is damaging content creators. Or even if it was a glitch it would be nice if that was stated.
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Pewdiepie claims, almost certainly trolling, that he will delete channel at 50m subs
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BBQMan
Member
What he is complaining about is completely valid. Its something that doesnt only effect him so before you carry on about "waahhh he will only get 1 million views now so sad /s" like a moron you have to think about the bigger picture. It is happening to a lot of channels big and small, take the time to watch H3H3's video on it. Youtube is turning into a very ad centric thing where the trending side of things is completely dominated by poorly performing ads. Shit needs to stop, also the recommended videos thing is fucking shit.
This problem stems to more then just PewDiePie, and the whole reason he is doing this is in an attempt to force Youtube's hand at either explaining what they changed or fixing it.
About a week ago I think.
And if people think this isn't an issue, A LOT of big Youtubers have complained about it, far more than those highlighted in Pewdiepie's video. No, most aren't going to go as far as deleting their channel, but some people are actually terrified of losing their livlihood, some in the 2 mil+ sub range like CinnamonToastKen.
It's the first algorithm change that caused the animation crash all over again, but much bigger because Youtube has grown exponentially since then.
It's the first algorithm change that caused the animation crash all over again, but much bigger because Youtube has grown exponentially since then.
valkillmore
Member
Work
Guess that's what I get for not bothering to watch the video. Though I'd think it kind of IS that as it's advertising a bold move that draws attention to him and what he wants to say.
Not ad system, discovery system. People aren't finding videos, leading to less ad revenue, leading to people getting screwed over.
And like a month or so ago maybe? I've also had a drop in views, but I'm a tiny ass 1k sub channel as it is, so it's obviously worse for the big guys. You can see it on socialblade where a lot of channels take a huge dip.
CertifiedFP
Member
Ah, a rare member of CollectivistGAF has appeared.
What?
Basileus777
Member
I don't think CollectivistGAF would be staning for Google.
Hidden One
Member
What new ad system did Youtube implement?
It's always a delight to to see people on GAF complaining about Youtubers getting money trough video creation, and thus ignoring everything said video creator said, even if it is legitimate.
PewdiePie brings up good points, and he's certainly not the only one affected by this. The new Algorithm hurts views a lot. Starting over might as well be the right thing to do.
But whatever, he makes money trough it, so fuck him and everything he said right?
PewdiePie brings up good points, and he's certainly not the only one affected by this. The new Algorithm hurts views a lot. Starting over might as well be the right thing to do.
But whatever, he makes money trough it, so fuck him and everything he said right?
No one knows because Youtube doesn't tell people shit when they change their algorithms, not even the biggest guy on the site. You just kind of have to let the community infer it on their own.
The current theory is that it went from watch time to engagement (with a side helping of network-sponsored content). That means likes and comments are the most important thing and even then, they're not as important as how much big businesses pay Youtube to get their videos on the front page or whatever.
fastballspecial
Member
That "lambo" tweet in the article made me cringe soooo hard.
Don't a buy a Lamborghini if you make Internet videos for a living. Imagine that concept.
Don't a buy a Lamborghini if you make Internet videos for a living. Imagine that concept.
KojiKnight
Member
He's a millionaire a couple times over, he may just be looking for an excuse to retire.
Thanks.
This blows. I have a youtube channel that I was going to start working on once the semester's over, but this new system looks like it's gonna make making money a lot more difficult than before (which I guess is the point, but still).
Frozenprince
Banned
Mhm, okay sure. Just walk away from, what, $10M a year?
Arby 'n' the Chief
Member
He made a follow up video to better explain what's happening that I suggest you all watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxPOFp45AIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxPOFp45AIg
That's just what he wants.
mercenar1e
Member
With investments/real estate Pewdiepie can live on dividend and rent payments for the rest of his life. I'm not sure how many other youtubers can say the same. Is anyone on here a popular YouTuber or a rising channel?
huh, that's actually not a bad explanation.
They started destroying discovery way back when they implemented the new (read current) interface for the mobile apps. How's anyone supposed to discover shit when they get less than 2 items presented per screen.
And the biggest joke is I've already watched that top video. But keep recommending it YouTube maybe I'll watch it again...
Note that I don't get ads because of YouTube Red, the average user would have a big ass ad in the top position usually.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
He's worth almost 100 million he doesn't need YouTube
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It isn't.
People like to complain about PDP because he makes a billion dollars or something, but him being in the game for so long, he'd know his shit.
And yeah, I don't watch PDP, but I can acknowledge this is a problem cause my recommended bar is filled with shiiiit.
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
so what will happen is he will hit 50 million and be like "heeeheyyyy howz it going bros my nam iz pewwwdieeddeepiweeeeeee, you know how I wuz doing to delete my chanelz, ya thatz not happening thanks for the 50"
Gunslinger
Member
Could be true. Ma man probably got tired of making these videos. He made lots of money already and probably wants to do different things in life.
Exploratory
Banned
You sound salty or just sad. He's an entertainer he brings joy and entertainment to people what do you do for a living?
Jacksepticeye is a Gaffer, so you could ask him. Not like he'll tell you how much he makes, but estimates have him at like $3 mil a year.
Why are you so salty man? He obviously has talent considering he attracts all those people. You're clearly understimating how long it takes to film and edit a video before they're good to go. It's not all about looking at a camera and just letting it roll by itself. If someone popular like him is getting screwed over, then how to do you think smaller channels are doing? It's a good thing he's bringing attention to these issues.
If its that easy, how come you're not doing the same? I mean it should be a piece of cake for you considering it doesn't require talent or educational background, right?
Its Quite Toasty
Banned
Exactly burning down the channel doesn't mean jack shit. he's still going to be one of the richest people out there even if he didn't continue.
ronaldthump
Member
He's not going to kill his channel.
Maybe he should put his channel to use on an occasional social good or 2.
Maybe he should put his channel to use on an occasional social good or 2.
Its Quite Toasty
Banned
Because it's easier to shit on those that have a lot.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
You will if you watch these two videos...
How PewDiePie Conquered YouTube
Leave PewDiePie ALONE!
They will tell you exactly how he's so popular.
Intheflorsh
Banned
^ Mark
You couldn't even be accurate with the Pewdiepie imitation
I'm convinced that part around 5:50 was especially made for GAF
FloatingDivider
Member
He sounds fairly entitled, I'm sure he'll be fine but I'm also glad Youtube changed their algorithm, and I hope they keep changing it. Because I feel like I've been discovering way better content with less views lately instead of always being recommended the latest most popular thing and the biggest channels. Basically I'm glad that I'm not being recommended a pewdiepie video every time I watch anything gaming related anymore.
Backlogger
Member
I'll go subscribe then
I feel like I keep getting recommended shit I've already told them I'm not interested in or channels that I'm already subscribed to and videos I've already watched. But I'm glad its working out for you.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Funny how i seems to be mostly the bigger/biggest channels complaining.
If it affected everyone as they seem to claim...well, that's actually impossible, since there has to be content to fill in the gaps. So clearly some channels are benefiting from this
IncognitoPanda
Member
He made like $12M in 2015...
Yeah, I got you.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
Getting rid of the channel hurts YouTube more than him. That's why he's doing it.