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[adamsapple]

His words are this very moment, yes.

A price increase however, if at all, isn't.

But you wouldn't think that seeing at the replies

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I'm not and have never been concerned, but there is a big group of people on GAF that are terribly concerned and express that concern in pretty much EVERY Game Pass thread. I just wanted to put their minds at ease and let them know that all those losses they have been theorizing don't actually exist and they no longer need to worry about a service it's very likely a lot of them don't even subscribe to.

Its such crazy value for money and will be even crazier in future with all those AAA titles landing day 1.

I'm not sure who wouldn't want to try it and even with the occasional $1 sign up fee.

 

[Kamina]

Christ, what kinda bread are you buying. I'm surprised you're still alive.

„pread”

 

[DeepEnigma]

A price increase however, if at all, isn't.

But you wouldn't think that seeing at the replies

 

[MacReady13]

Even more so when more AAA first party releases begin to arrive and the current price of GPass began to be absurdly low for what was offered.

Why not put less game on there and keep the price the same?

 

[Stuart360]

Now where have I heard this before?

Are MS the only company not allowed toi raise prices?. I honestly dont get some of you.

 

[Banjo64]

A price increase however, if at all, isn't.

But you wouldn't think that seeing at the replies

You think he’s prepping us for a price increase in 5 years time?

Good guy Phil, I’ll get saving.

 

[MacReady13]

Almost every major subscription service has had price increase over the years since they launched: Netflix, Spotify, Amazon prime, ESPN+, etc.
I don't know why some people act surprised that gamepass will inevitably raise prices at some point too-

And eventually you who pay for all these subs will be paying more for these services than you would if you just purchased what you want.

 

[Banjo64]

Are MS the only company not allowed toi raise prices?. I honestly dont get some of you.

None of them should be raising prices, just like they don’t drop them when times are good.

The PS3 cost £425 in the UK, the pound was so strong that that was over $800 at the time. Now the pound is weak they look to rape us further still.

 

[adamsapple]

You think he’s prepping us for a price increase in 5 years time?

Good guy Phil, I’ll get saving.

No, but I don't see it happening till late 2023, if at all.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Are MS the only company not allowed toi raise prices?. I honestly dont get some of you.

Bro, holy shit man!

 

[Stuart360]

Bro, holy shit man!

What?

 

[IFireflyl]

It is anti-consumer.

Doesn’t mean it isn’t rational to some degree.

Don’t confuse the 2.

The two what? You only mentioned one thing. Regardless, inflation happens. Prices go up. Saying that every price increase is anti-consumer just means that every business is anti-consumer, and that just makes the term anti-consumer meaningless.

A proper example of anti-consumer is increase diabetes medication that people need to survive just so the higher-ups can pad their wallets. Increasing the price of a toy box and its corresponding subscription so you aren't losing money is called common sense.

Don’t make this a Sony debate. Look at my post history to see how happy I am with Sony too. I don’t play sides.

I didn't make this a Sony debate.

Edit: price increase isn’t the only anti-consumer issue with MS. They invented MTx, paid online for gaming, paid subscriptions for services, etc. the most anti-consumer company in the USA to the core.

That has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

 

[Banjo64]

No, but I don't see it happening till late 2023, if at all.

You don’t sow the seed for something 14-26 months away.

This is first half 2022 IMO but I think they’ll be select about it. Either a £/€/$1 increase to subs or the first party games going from £54.99 to £69.99.

 

[GHG]

Bro, holy shit man!

If in doubt play dumb. Every time.

 

[Captain Toad]

They still getting your money though.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, but this way only when they actually release games I want to play. That's when I'll happily support them.

I'm done paying every month for the promise of future games that inevitably get delayed, but I'm still getting billed every month in the meantime.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Are MS the only company not allowed toi raise prices?. I honestly dont get some of you.

What?

This you my brotha?

Well dont defend it then. You dont have to attack your fave comapny if you dont want to, just dont fucking defend it. Just for once some of you look at this from our perspective, the consumer, not billionaire companies.

 

[Stuart360]

If in doubt play dumb. Every time.

Well i admit i am dumb on what you are on about.

 

[Banjo64]

This you my brotha?

Sorry Stuart360 but that’s some damn ranc hypocrisy right there bro.

 

[Stuart360]

This you my brotha?

Er what exactly is wrong with what i said?. And you're doing exactly what i meant with that post, defending Sony, and attacking MS for POSSIBLY doing the same thing.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Prepping us for the Xbox Series X Pro console sticker shock thats coming

 

[Phil_the_goat]

No wonder some of you have huge backlogs since you shitpost here 24/7. I'd love to see xbox/psn profiles of neogaf's most active console warriors.

 

[phil_t98]

Always make me laugh, nobody believes a word Phil Spencer says and then he says something like this and everybody and his mate jumps on it

 

[GHG]

Well i admit i am dumb on what you are on about.

I'm not sure why you're pretending to be blissfully ignorant when you've taken part in previous price increase threads and taken strong stances. Where is this energy now? :

Well when i read the OP i was actually going to defend Sony a touch, for similar reasons you just said, although still a shitty move, but after reading the absolute bile in this thread, fuck em.

And my point was more how many people on this forum take their fave billionaire companies side, and never the consumer, you know us.

 

[SLB1904]

Tesco meal went up £0.50, and people thought Microsoft will keep the status quo.
Also this all interview sounds like Sony executives talking. Be ready for the news next week

 

[Represent.]

PlayStation 5 console got a price increase back in August, so it's not really that unusual.

That was literally the first time in history thats happened.

 

[xHunter]

You don’t sow the seed for something 14-26 months away.

This is first half 2022 IMO but I think they’ll be select about it. Either a £/€/$1 increase to subs or the first party games going from £54.99 to £69.99.

My guess is within the first 3 months in 2023, if not in January. His words suggest that this has been in the works for a while now, but they didnt want to raise the prices right when the holiday season is coming up

 

[Stuart360]

I'm not sure why you're pretending to be blissfully ignorant when you've taken part in previous price increase threads and taken strong stances. Where is this energy now? :

By saying i was going to defend Sony until the shitposters started. Sony did nothing wrong and IF Ms raise prices, they wont be doing anything wrong too.

If thats the best you two have got, you must try harder.

 

[adamsapple]

That was literally the first time in history thats happened.

IIRC PS4 prices also increased in some regions of the world some years after its retail launch.

 

[Banjo64]

No wonder some of you have huge backlogs since you shitpost here 24/7. I'd love to see xbox/psn profiles of neogaf's most active console warriors.

I work hard.

I shitpost hard.

I game hard.

I dad hard.

I fuck hard.

 

[jm89]

The good guy act will bite you in the ass hard eventually. I expect even worse backlash then sony.

 

[GHG]

By sayting i was going to defend Sony until the shitposters started. Sony did nothing wrong and IF Ms raise prices, they wont be doing anything wrong too.

If thats the best you two have got, you must try harder.

So "shitposters" made you change your stance, not the company in question?

So do you actually want to take the consumers side or was that outburst just because you felt people were defending and rationalising the price increase?

 

[PillsOff]

Here is your paid always online gaming coming
It's great for now even if the price increases somewhat there is still nothing like it
Next couple of years probably be quite great for GP
But it's a Trojan horse and you can see the ears of it already

 

[DeepEnigma]

By saying i was going to defend Sony until the shitposters started. Sony did nothing wrong and IF Ms raise prices, they wont be doing anything wrong too.

If thats the best you two have got, you must try harder.

 

[Topher]

Might as well add this to the "that was different" list?

Acquisitions
Timed exclusives
And coming soon......price increases.

 

[sendit]

This is expected. Once they reach market saturation goals to tickle their pickles. They will increase prices. Investors don't like products/services that remain stagnate in profit.

 

[GHG]

No wonder some of you have huge backlogs since you shitpost here 24/7. I'd love to see xbox/psn profiles of neogaf's most active console warriors.

Show us your main/banned account and in return everyone will post their trophy/achievement data.

Deal?

 

[Neofire]

Uncle Phil lied about upping the price of their consoles but want us to believe GP is 15% of the Xbox's profit

Come on Uncle Phil

 

[Stuart360]

So "shitposters" made you change, your stance, not the company in question?

So do you actually want to take the consumers side or was that outburst just because you felt people were defending and rationalising the price increase?

Yeah because you cant have proper discussion on here without constant shitposting. Like tyring to catch me out (and clearly backfiring) when many of you were defending Sony and now attacking MS, i mean THAT is hypocrisy.

All i did was say how i expected Gamepass to raise its price, and that it will still be value for money. I havent defended MS for any potential price hikes with hardware etc. It sucks no matter who does it.

 

[ReBurn]

Lock in the next 3 years at the best price while you can.

 

[sendit]

Prepping us for the Xbox Series X Pro console sticker shock thats coming

I hope its a sticker shock. Console buyers need to stop being cheap bastards so we can get real power in these 7-10 year life cycle devices.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

I think this deserves one hell of a fucking almighty.....

 

[Stuart360]

Uncle Phil lied about upping the price of their consoles but want us to believe GP is 15% of the Xbox's profit

Come on Uncle Phil

Well he hasnt upped them yet, and i'm pretty sure he didnt mean they werent puting the prices up for the rest of Earths time in this universe.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah because you cant have proper discussion on here without constant shitposting. Like tyring to catch me out (and clearly backfiring) when many of you were defending Sony and now attacking MS, i mean THAT is hypocrisy.

All i did was say how i expected Gamepass to raise its price, and that it will still be value for money. I havent defended MS for any potential price hikes with hardware etc. It sucks no matter who does it.

Hey now, billionaires are not a charity, amirite?

 

[freefornow]

It is anti-consumer.

Man, who knew that this store I'm at the moment is anti-consumer. I'm raging at the grocerer for that 10c increase on this apple I'm about to purchase.
Nah, fuck it! They have lost my business!!! Millions will also no longer buy apples!

 

[oldergamer]

A lot of sony fans in an xbox thread saying a lot of stuff that nobody claimed wasn't going to happen

A lot of noise to be honest.

 

[sendit]

I just spit all over my monitor. Thanks.

 

[Stuart360]

Like i said Mr 'i hate console warring and am totally neutral', try harder if thats the best you have got.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I’m ok with a price increase. Still cheaper than buying the games, or even renting them. I’m more looking forward to the family plan coming out. That way my daughter can get in on some of the cloud gaming

 

[DeepEnigma]

Like i said Mr 'i hate console warring and am totally neutral', try harder if thats the best you have got.

Mr. I only see it and get emotional enough to backtrack on my Sony crits when one side does it blinders on.