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Phil Spencer named Head of Xbox
- Thread starter Spider_Jerusalem
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Exactly.
More so that he believes Xbox should be games first.
Good for Xbox gamers, it is extremely important to have someone good running the ship. The problem for me is its too late to turn the ship around. Xbox One is reported to cost more to make than PS4 even without Kinect. How long until MS release Kinectless Xbox One, also can't Sony drop the price of the PS4 to counter. Finally will MS charge less for Gold to compete with PSN+, will they have more free games, will there be a paywall for apps like Netflix, will multiplatform games get closer to PS4 versions and etc. I personally think its too late to turn things around for Xbox One, however the next Xbox system should be in a much better position.
Dlacy13g
Member
Was it too late to turn the PS3 around when it stumbled out of the gates with insane $600 price tag, a work 2 jobs to pay for it attitude and a PS Network that was utterly garbage? No, clearly it can be done... It is way too early in the systems life to toss a statement like yours out there.
How many times does it need to be pointed out that MS are not in the same situation as Sony were.
And I don't think Phil's image is important. If he makes enough good decisions gamers quickly forget. Jack Tretton was a figurehead of hate in 2005, but there was practically a minute's silence for his departure last month.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I really like this guy. I have no doubt that the Xbox One is going to be a great console to own this Gen.
MS has already begun to turn it around and it hasn't even been 6 months since the release of the system, HOW people can say its too late after seeing what the ps3 was able to turn it around after years of being a laughing stock of a sytem is beyond me
Thats right, MS is in a better position considering they have a huge warchest whereas sony was/is still bleeding money.
Pound_lb003
Member
I am not a great fan of the Spencinator - but there's not many execs I am a fan of now we've lost Jacky T on the E3 stage.
But humble pie has been eaten, and he does seem to have always been about the games. So, yeah - really good choice.
But humble pie has been eaten, and he does seem to have always been about the games. So, yeah - really good choice.
rokkerkory
Member
Agreed.
Good stuff I see coming in next year or so from Xbox. Can't wait for E3 now. It's a make or break E3 for X1 as far as I am concerned.
ChosenPredator
Banned
I was like that too suspect on his gamership but when he said Ultima Online was one of his favorite games and specifically refered to the untouch version of it, there was no question that he's actually a hardcore gamer
Ultima isn't something someone casually plays lol
Ol No Bones
Banned
I keep hearing about this turnaround but honestly they have pretty much been doing the right things since launch. I'm more happy with the One than the 4 right now. Perception could use a turnaround for sure.
I wonder who would win in a bidding war for Shenmue, Sony
or Microsoft.
I know the obvious answer is Microsoft, but Cerny speaks Japanese and I think he + the combined positive momentum of the PS4 could possibly sway Yu Suzuki to the Sony and the PS4.
Although I dont know if sony would want to fund such a project i'am guessing for the project to live up to the expectations of the fans it would need at least $100 million budget, and also maybe Microsoft still has good relations with Yu Suzuki because of the Shenmue work on the OG xbox.
or Microsoft.
I know the obvious answer is Microsoft, but Cerny speaks Japanese and I think he + the combined positive momentum of the PS4 could possibly sway Yu Suzuki to the Sony and the PS4.
Although I dont know if sony would want to fund such a project i'am guessing for the project to live up to the expectations of the fans it would need at least $100 million budget, and also maybe Microsoft still has good relations with Yu Suzuki because of the Shenmue work on the OG xbox.
Impeccable
Member
Let's be honest, the game will never exist.
Too late? We are not even half a year into the next gen cycle and still have 6-7 years to go probably. No they still have time.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Four. Extra. Years. That's all I'm gonna say.
This seems super staged in a way to boost flagging opinion of the Xbox Brand. Every site has their own interview with him up within 2 hours of the announcement, and in every interview he mentions looking into some IP that is sentimental to a small section of gamers.
Considering how much he's been out in front of the public for the last few months saying the same kinds of things, it makes me think this has been a thing for at least a month or two, and they're just using it as a way to promote the XBox brand to keep some sort of momentum going. 90% of potential XB1 buyers don't know or want to know who Phil Spencer is, just like they don't know or want to know about Cerny on the other side. At the end of the day, it's cool to talk games and 1st party support, but showmethereceipts.gif.
I'd be super shocked if any sort of Shenmue product makes it out this generation. Both companies have been playing it fast and hard with name dropping beloved game franchises from the past, but in the end, I don't see a lot of them coming to fruition.
Considering how much he's been out in front of the public for the last few months saying the same kinds of things, it makes me think this has been a thing for at least a month or two, and they're just using it as a way to promote the XBox brand to keep some sort of momentum going. 90% of potential XB1 buyers don't know or want to know who Phil Spencer is, just like they don't know or want to know about Cerny on the other side. At the end of the day, it's cool to talk games and 1st party support, but showmethereceipts.gif.
I'd be super shocked if any sort of Shenmue product makes it out this generation. Both companies have been playing it fast and hard with name dropping beloved game franchises from the past, but in the end, I don't see a lot of them coming to fruition.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
I think they made the right decision with him. My impression was always that Mattrick and Mehdi pushed for all the evil stuff, but we will never know.
But for me this doesn`t change anything, because the fundaments of the xbox one are set with kinect and a weaker than anticipated machine, but maybe he can make the right decisons for the fourth xbox console.
But for me this doesn`t change anything, because the fundaments of the xbox one are set with kinect and a weaker than anticipated machine, but maybe he can make the right decisons for the fourth xbox console.
Pound_lb003
Member
Seeing them fund 3 Quantic Dream titles over the years makes me think this is not true, and that it could be done with a less extortionate budget.
Yeah, it was too late for Sony right?.....right?
Listen, yes, they can't change the hardware, but all the rest of the stuff. Of course they can! Maybe some of it isn't as easy as others, but it's certainly possible. "Too late" seems just a little bit strong.
It's still really noticeable (1080p vs. 900p is visable, I don't know what some of you are talking about), but the difference in power between PS4 and Xbox One really isn't going to matter all that much if MS, now with Spencer at the head of it's Xbox ship, starts churning out lots of quality games.
The bad stuff, other than the hardware, is totally reversible.
LukasTaves
Member
But that was basically asking to be joked around. It's different than come out on a interview and bring up a subject just to mess with our little hearts
Uno Venova
Banned
Hopefully he leads the turnaround I feel the company needs, I'd love to see more consumer friendly (paywall) and developer friendly (release parity) practices. And a focus on first party, and who knows I, might be back on board years from now.
How much do these companies normally spend in their gaming division?
i think we dodged a bullet here
SmoothRunningGun
Member
At least it's not that tvtvtv guy...
KaiserBecks
Member
I like him, looking forward to "his" first e3 presentation.
Imagine if Microsoft's E3 conference started with Shenmue's intro music. Just the music...in pitch black darkness...as the lights fade in and Phil walks onto the stage.
You saw the script too?
CassidyIzABeast
Member
I hope Phil knows he's pushed my expectations up. I would have settled for a great Quantum Break demo and some new IP but now I want that FIRE from Microsoft's E3 conference.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I think it's important to give him time, true we have E3 coming up but changing direction/strategy takes time, just look at Sony and PS3.
PoloBlue28
Banned
PAX East in is 11 days or so and Major Nelson did say Xbox had interesting stuff planned for it. It's entirely possible they'll announce Games with Gold for XB1 at PAX East and start in the middle of the month with an indie game or one of their own 1st party titles that isn't selling so great like Zoo Tycoon. ntkrnl may still be right.
Obviously hes a better replacement, but Id debate how much better considering his previous role was to head up MSs gaming studios so pretty much all first party stuff that gets produced/cancelled. How long was he in that role for?
Be interesting to see what he has done in that capacity beyond his public appearances since last years E3...
ps3ud0 8)
Be interesting to see what he has done in that capacity beyond his public appearances since last years E3...
ps3ud0 8)
walltowall
Member
Most big corp executive promotions are that way. In my experience its probably less of a momentum thing and more of ...... You have to give the team room to breathe, get over hurt feelings and decide to leave/stay, let agenda be set, etc. and then you announce. Deals are done on Sunday nights and announced on Monday, but promotions take time.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Great choice, he really deserves it.
shungokusatsu
Member
Well deserved. He reminds me of Shu so much; glad he got this.
MrCunningham
Member
Great news. Microsoft really needs a person like this in charge of their Xbox division.