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[Kacho]

People want MS to consolodate the industry over Apple, Facebook etc because the current leadership are doing all the right things at the moment.

Problem is they won't be there forever. Shit can change fast under different leadership as we've seen with Sony. The direction of gaming falling under such a small group of people isn't good no matter who it is

Nailed it. Consolidation was inevitable and it’s bad and it’s the beginning of the end of industry we know and love, but at least Facebook isn’t the one driving it off a cliff.

 

[kyoji]

Phils an idiot, i wonder how many of us could run/manage xbox with house money.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

People in here really think Phil Spencer ran these multi-billion dollar gaming acquisitions by Nadella as some altruistic campaign to save gaming? Lmao

They are doing this because they want to expand their cloud/azure services they are banking on and with that they pretty much eclipse every other tech company at everything else they do, especially data collection. They aren’t any different then Amazon or Google. They are just trying to do it through gaming which has become the biggest industry on the planet.

Phil is great at marketing but he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. At the end of the day microsoft is just trying to get to 3 trillion before the other companies

Nobody thinks this was an altruistic decision lol. This was very clearly a business decision aimed at putting Microsoft in the best possible position moving forward. That said, all of the things he is saying can still be true. I don't know why you guys get so salty and just post this nonsense over and over.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

All I know is when Phil Spencer talks, all the haters listen and post on this forum. He must be doing something right.

 

[CobraAB]

I guess after 20 years, it was time for MS to remove the mask.

 

[Mitsuda Maniac]

He knows the next logical step for Nintendo and/or Sony if they are displaced in the market is to partner up with Apple or Amazon and start bidding wars for content. Of course he does not want that to happen.

 

[3liteDragon]

Phil is great at marketing but he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. At the end of the day microsoft is just trying to get to 3 trillion before the other companies

Apple already got there about 17 days ago.

 

[BennyBlanco]

He’s not wrong. Amazon bought the people who made the Killer Instinct reboot. What happened next? Who the fuck knows.

 

[Thaedolus]

Damn right its a reasonable statement. Check out the post I am replying to in this very post. It perfectly shows how effectively he communicates to the troops.

Am I a troop? I don’t even own an Xbox at the moment, I’m PS5/Switch and PC w/ GamePass

 

[BennyBlanco]

Phils an idiot, i wonder how many of us could run/manage xbox with house money.

I’m confident any NeoGAF shitposting green rat could outperform Mattrick at least.

 

[Concern]

All these threads are just delivering lol.

Im so over this already. We're literally going through the same exact process as with the Zenimax acquisition.

"Omg he said 'blah blah blah'.... fuck off Phil"

 

[CobraAB]

In a certain way, Microsoft has been involved in gaming longer than anyone besides Nintendo.

They published their first video game in the late 1970s.

Apple had games on the Apple II and the Mac years ago.

Did not make them a gaming company.

 

[Concern]

Phils an idiot, i wonder how many of us could run/manage xbox with house money.

Yea im sure you can, you're so bright

 

[NickFire]

Am I a troop? I don’t even own an Xbox at the moment, I’m PS5/Switch and PC w/ GamePass

It sounds like you lost your uniform soldier, but as long as you're willing to call everyone salty for laughing about Phil's astroturfing about spending $70B to save gaming from Facebook, I'm sure he'll let you stay on.

 

[ByWatterson]

Apple had games on the Apple II and the Mac years ago.

Did not make them a gaming company.

No, but had they jumped in circa 2010 with a console, I wouldn't say they were barging in.

 

[Yoboman]

Making up a tech bogeyman to justify monopolising the third party market is an interesting one.

Facebook had the chance to buy Act Blizz and didn't. All 3 have been in the gaming space for a few years and not bought any major third parties. In fact Google for all their faults on Stadia did the right thing and were trying to build up their own studios from scratch

Its just MS doing this, dont get it twisted

 

[sainraja]

Yeah and I don't know how I feel about Activision in the hands of Facebook either.

Would rather these companies stay independent. Just everyone stop buying shit lol

The wierd thing is that Activision actually went to Facebook first and they weren't interested.

Unless they went to Facebook first to get Microsoft to pay more?
I am not sure how this all works so I am not even sure if Activision could disclose that to MS but maybe?

 

[Dream-Knife]

I mean, he's not wrong, but Microsoft is also one of those companies.

 

[Thaedolus]

It sounds like you lost your uniform soldier, but as long as you're willing to call everyone salty for laughing about Phil's astroturfing about spending $70B to save gaming from Facebook, I'm sure he'll let you stay on.

I think you need to practice your reading comprehension and/or get a dictionary

 

[mansoor1980]

i dont understand his point?

 

[sainraja]

Facebook decides to push into gaming and if it doesn't go well they shutter a bunch of studios and the industry is worse off for it. At least with MS, they aren't locking up this content behind one specific platform. Xbox, xCloud, PC, etc. Sure, its unfortunate that Sony and Nintendo fans will be impacted, but this is the better outcome versus someone like Google or Facebook taking charge.

I know Xbox diehards here believe otherwise but it's possible (given Minecraft is still available on all applicable platforms — competition or not) that MS might treat some of the IPs they just acquired the same way (but mostly the more popular ones — I can see them being selective about the others.) We'll just have to wait and see. We won't find this out anytime soon given whatever they are bound to do.

Also, it is a little silly to assume that Google/Apple/Facebook might be worse. What if they could have brought something new and different? We might never know now.

 

[assurdum]

So it means Bethesda and Activision will continue to release their games on ps5 right Phil?

 

[assurdum]

All I know is when Phil Spencer talks, all the haters listen and post on this forum. He must be doing something right.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

I know Xbox diehards here believe otherwise but it's possible (given Minecraft is still on all applicable platforms — competition or not) that MS might treat some other IPs the same way (but mostly the more popular ones — I can see them being selective about the others.)

I’m thinking this will be like the Bethesda deal but at the same time but it also wouldn’t surprise me if MS did still release some games on the PlayStation. Will be interesting to watch as it all unfolds.

 

[NickFire]

I think you need to practice your reading comprehension and/or get a dictionary

I think you're right. Somehow I misread the tea leaves here. I really thought that if someone is calling other people salty, they were kidding around and were someone that could be joked around with. Lesson learned.

 

[assurdum]

i dont understand his point?

It's better if him steal multiplatform AAA than other companies because...he is likeable.

 

[sainraja]

I’m thinking this will be like the Bethesda deal but at the same time but it also wouldn’t surprise me if MS did still release some games on the PlayStation. Will be interesting to watch as it all unfolds.

Yeah, that is very much possible. We shall see how it will ultimately unfold.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Apple had games on the Apple II and the Mac years ago.

Did not make them a gaming company.

So Sony having movies, music, TVs, phones makes them not a gaming company, right?

 

[Topher]

That's an interesting take considering Microsoft's history. Doesn't matter. The words are empty. If Amazon makes a kickass game that everyone wants to play then complaining they are a "shopping" company doesn't really mean anything.

All I know is when Phil Spencer talks, all the haters listen and post on this forum. He must be doing something right.

So Jim Ryan is doing "something right" because people talk about what he says as well?

 

[Chukhopops]

Phil Spencer says something positive about his former competitors
Three pages of absolutely livid people in 1 hour

 

[Thaedolus]

I think you're right. Somehow I misread the tea leaves here. I really thought that if someone is calling other people salty, they were kidding around and were someone that could be joked around with. Lesson learned.

Jokes are usually funny or pithy. Like the salty reactions in here- hilarious considering how reasonable the original statement was. Or calling the statement “astroturfing,” which it in no way could have been under any understanding of the term. So was that the joke? Because it did go over my head if it was

 

[assurdum]

Phil Spencer says something positive about his former competitors
Three pages of absolutely livid people in 1 hour

You know it's like him kick sony in the balls until yesterday and meanwhile whisper in their ears :you are the best of the industry, dude.

 

[Yoboman]

Phil Spencer: "We sheep need to stick together to fight off wolves"

Also Phil Spencer:

 

[mansoor1980]

It's better if him steal multiplatform AAA than other companies because...he is likeable.

oh you mean he is thanos
old gaming companies against him

 

[adamsapple]

That is a very confusing quote to decipher ... best I can get is he's trying to correlate those two companies which are steadfast and embedded into console gaming as opposed to an outsider like Google or Facebook/Meta coming into gaming now to shake it up.

But it's a really confusing quote.

 

[Concern]

It's better if him steal multiplatform AAA than other companies because...he is likeable.

So you admit you like Phil finally

 

[assurdum]

oh you mean he is thanos
old gaming companies against him

More or less I guess

 

[Punished Miku]

It's just funny if you read the Activision / Facebook thread on this exact subject. It's basically just 100% of people agreeing with his point.

 

[THEAP99]

"Spencer said he's concerned about tech companies unfamiliar with the gaming industry barging in to the space"

What is ironic? Are you saying Amazon knows just as much about the gaming industry as Xbox, an extension of Microsoft?

 

[assurdum]

So you admit you like Phil finally

I said likeable for some people. But I always found him like a snake masked as sheep behind his false goodness. And the late 2 years prove my point. Full of good words but with opposite intentions in the backstage.

 

[splattered]

People want MS to consolodate the industry over Apple, Facebook etc because the current leadership are doing all the right things at the moment.

Problem is they won't be there forever. Shit can change fast under different leadership as we've seen with Sony. The direction of gaming falling under such a small group of people isn't good no matter who it is

That is a 100% fair statement.

But that being said i trust Microsoft to "continue doing the right things" before i trust Apple, Facebook, or Google to "start doing the right things"

 

[Thaedolus]

It's better if him steal multiplatform AAA than other companies because...he is likeable.

Buying something for $69 billion isn’t stealing it

 

[NickFire]

Jokes are usually funny or pithy. Like the salty reactions in here- hilarious considering how reasonable the original statement was. Or calling the statement “astroturfing,” which it in no way could have been under any understanding of the term. So was that the joke? Because it did go over my head if it was

MEOW

 

[assurdum]

Buying something for $69 billion isn’t stealing it

Your are right. Try to private AAA titles to the market counterparts smell more of monopoly.

 

[Concern]

People want MS to consolodate the industry over Apple, Facebook etc because the current leadership are doing all the right things at the moment.

Problem is they won't be there forever. Shit can change fast under different leadership as we've seen with Sony. The direction of gaming falling under such a small group of people isn't good no matter who it is

If people actually weren't hypocrites and voted with their wallets, we'd have a better grasp on the direction of the industry.

People cry about microtransactions and lootboxes for example but it was very successful cuz idiots still supported it.

Microsoft started doing the right things because of the mess that was Xbox One and nobody buying it.

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

No point in trying to make a serious post in here, just going to float away...

BIG BAD MS MAN SAID BIG BAD THINGS!

 

[rodrigolfp]

It's better if him steal multiplatform AAA than other companies because...he is likeable.

Like stealing spider man games from pc and xbox...

 

[kyoji]

I’m confident any NeoGAF shitposting green rat could outperform Mattrick at least.

Yea im sure you can, you're so bright

 

[RoadHazard]

The big point that I think is missed here is both of these acquisitions happened due to the bad state that these companies were in.

Bethesda was struggling and Activison was dealing with the crap Bobby and his crew created.

Do you REALLY believe MS decided to spend $70B on Activision just because Bobby is a creep? I have no idea how that makes sense to anyone.

 

[assurdum]

Like stealing spider man games from pc and xbox...

Yeah because before sony, Spiderman games had such high quality, lol, what a shame Insomniac steal the brand.