Over here it's selling like mouldy bread.To be fair, the Xbox One is selling like hotcakes but it looks bad against the beast PS4.
Over here it's selling like mouldy bread.To be fair, the Xbox One is selling like hotcakes but it looks bad against the beast PS4.
you do realize your opinion is likely the minority one though? I mean we can all talk about our favorite everything. I probably play SF and Destiny more than the average and last gen Pixel Junk Monsters and Journey were my GOTY lol. We're all weird in our own ways. But when Phil talks makes an overall statement like that, I think most folks will just disagree.
Lol at the argument of "if you like Japanese games PS4 might be better" like it matterea what region a game comes from. PS4 has more games period, led the VR charge, doubled the installed user base (which means where your friends play is more than likely on a PS4) and a larger WWS. The past E3 have been filled with hype from Sony games. On an individual bases, I can see ppl making their case, people love WiiU, it has some of their favorite games of all time.
But I also think it's pretty reasonable to see someone POv that thinks this is the weakest Xbox so far. Exclusives are still important, and it's just lacking. The only thing I feel like I'm missing out on is Forza.
Are they really going to put Win10 in the LR? They keep saying it, but, my xbox is not at all like my Win10 PC. When they start adding features to make the Xbox look and feel like Win10, then mission accomplished. Maybe Scorpio, but I wont buy on a promise.
The X1 is my least favorite Xbox console so far.
you do realize your opinion is likely the minority one though? I mean we can all talk about our favorite everything. I probably play SF and Destiny more than the average and last gen Pixel Junk Monsters and Journey were my GOTY lol. We're all weird in our own ways. But when Phil talks makes an overall statement like that, I think most folks will just disagree.
Lol at the argument of "if you like Japanese games PS4 might be better" like it matterea what region a game comes from. PS4 has more games period, led the VR charge, doubled the installed user base (which means where your friends play is more than likely on a PS4) and a larger WWS. The past E3 have been filled with hype from Sony games. On an individual bases, I can see ppl making their case, people love WiiU, it has some of their favorite games of all time.
But I also think it's pretty reasonable to see someone POv that thinks this is the weakest Xbox so far. Exclusives are still important, and it's just lacking. The only thing I feel like I'm missing out on is Forza.
That came out? Why am I just hearing about this now?
I mean did anyone even care about the 1st one?
/Slowclap
Amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
It's like you read everything I wrote and understood none of it.
You need to go back to that first thing I wrote:
"Different strokes for different folks".
It's a colloquialism. I understand, but what it means is:
People can like different things and there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm happy you like Street Fighter V.
I found it to be a dumpster fire based on what Capcom did to Ibuki, a beloved character going back to the 1990's who they absolutely ruined by removing her move set she had for 20ish years.
And that's fine. You can like dumpster fires. I think you're quite brave for liking dumpster fires actually.
But Phil stated an opinion. It's an opinion that maybe doesn't work for you and your love of hot garbage on fire, but it does for other people.
I get this thread, I do. But I don't understand calling the guy a liar or corporate shill as some have for his opinion.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even Phil Spenser...And even people who enjoy the smell of hit burning garbage.
what? they literally about-faced practically everything about the console months before launch, except kinect, which they dropped shortly after
Love that Reggie-like twist/spin you put on that.This is definitely Xbox One's best generation, I don't see how you can deny that.
Ok...I gotcha...and lol at Ibuki, I hear some pros are using her at least '-)/Slowclap
Amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
It's like you read everything I wrote and understood none of it.
You need to go back to that first thing I wrote:
"Different strokes for different folks".
It's a colloquialism. I understand, but what it means is:
People can like different things and there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm happy you like Street Fighter V.
I found it to be a dumpster fire based on what Capcom did to Ibuki, a beloved character going back to the 1990's who they absolutely ruined by removing her move set she had for 20ish years.
And that's fine. You can like dumpster fires. I think you're quite brave for liking dumpster fires actually.
But Phil stated an opinion. It's an opinion that maybe doesn't work for you and your love of hot garbage on fire, but it does for other people.
I get this thread, I do. But I don't understand calling the guy a liar or corporate shill as some have for his opinion.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even Phil Spenser...And even people who enjoy the smell of hot burning garbage.
Fair enough, I figured the thread was more a comparison thread for the consoles. But you're right, it's just his opinion, and a reasonable one at that.It's not a minority opinion in my circle. I use my PS4 in almost the same vain, a Naughty Dog machine. All other games like Destiny and Overwatch the majority of my friends exclusively play on Xbox.
The argument is Jason saying that Microsoft can't compete on first party titles, which then warped into the notion that Phil is some Trump like figure cheating over those that actively play on their Xbox which isn't the case. It's a stupid Sony vs. Microsoft fanboy argument.
Love that Reggie-like twist/spin you put on that.
Made me chuckle...
I spend a fortune on my PC, -------- this generations Xbox has absolutely nothing going for it,
Well it sold over 2 million copies which is fantastic for an RTS game on consoles. I believe at the time MS head some sort of a headline about it being the best selling console RTS game ever.
Lol at the argument of "if you like Japanese games PS4 might be better" like it matterea what region a game comes from. PS4 has more games period,
The Xbox One S is probably the best console that's ever been made, in terms of sheer quality, in big part thanks to the newest update (it's not out for everybody yet). Great controller, Live is waaaay better than any other online service, etc etc.
But the games, man. The games just are not there. Microsoft is really disappointing me on the software front.
I used to work at GameStop during my college years and I remembered coming to work one day and we had like 2 feet high of halo wars games traded the next day after its release date. I believe halo wars sold that amount because gamers thought it was an fps.
1) Play Anywhere gimping Console Family Sharing
2) No PC >>> Xbox Streaming
3) Not adding in basic functionality that PC gamers expect in their UWA/PC implementations.
4) Not bringing what makes PC gaming great to console (3rd party controllers, middleware, mods) that are supported on Win10 (PC) but not Win10 (Xbox).
5) Lousy attempt at combining Xbox and Win10 store fronts. Might even consider it worse.
6) Free gimped versions of their console exclusives (Forza, Halo builder).
7) Play Anywhere features different between various game releases (Sometimes, console & pc can play together, sometimes not, etc..) They should be trying to GROW the player base to improve the multiplayer experience for their customers, not segment it.
In terms of sales he's right. In terms of first party output he's delusional if he thinks that. But obviously he's not gonna say "yeah we've really shit the bed this gen"
If he is talking about sales, sure, it's better at this point in lifecycle than previous one, on games front? Not so much.
I think he talks about sales?
(and to be honest, i agree with him either way, the 360 gen was ruined by the kinect focus from 2010)
I don't think they're gonna give us a desktop in the LR, nor would I want one personally.
What they are giving us is one core of Windows with a multitude of faces that share apps (UWP).
What does live do better than other services? I guess it has been down less than psn last year But that's not saying much. The interface of the Xbox is still slow as fuck, installing games is still a chore and when you talk about the controller are you talking about the Elite? Cause I was a big fan of the original controller but they're even more shitty than the PS4 ones considering I haven't used mine that much and one has a dead d-pad and left stick drift. Meanwhile 360 ones still rocking strong.
Nah XB1 is behind 360 in WW sales. I honestly dont know where this alternative fact comes from. The only place where they are theoretically close or better than 360 is the US and even that is likely to change this year unless the Scorpio provides enough of a boost to overcome the influx of sales the 360 enjoyed when Kinect first released which seems kind of unlikely tbqh.
It's up to developers if they put it on Xbox. Not MS.There are tons of UWP apps on the Win Store that would be great little time wasters on Xbox, but ya know, most of those are free, so cant have that taking away from realgames. They don't understand the market enough to know that would have a negligible impact to the bottom line, but would be a great selling point of the console.$60
To be fair, the Xbox One is selling like hotcakes but it looks bad against the beast PS4.
The controller build quality varies a lot. I have had 4 XB1 controllers in my possession and the current one I own (a standalone black bluetooth model) is easily the best I've had.
It's been out over 3 years and I don't think is even near the 30 million mark right? If so that's hardly 'hot cake' worthy, unless we think of Wii U as the baseline of 'fine' sales, heh.
Really? What is half hearted about Sea of Thieves Halo Wars 2 and Crackdown? Or is it because none of those have anything to do with gears halo Forza that the anti-ms crowd have to come up with some other way to dis the xbox? Lol. People are trying too hard.
I believe you are off by a year on the Kinect. It came out in 2010 (2009 = 2017) but it does not deter from the gist of your post.
I think a more effective one would be "I'm sorry you feel that way, but I believe we're still doing great things'. Inviting comparisons is dangerous.
lol what at joke.
At this point the 360 had a bunch of games I was interested in.
The xbone has like, half of a game I care about maybe?
Eh, can't really agree on that one. I found my Xbox One's interface to be slow and clogged, the download speeds were much slower, install speeds were slower, store was more of a hassle to navigate. This is just my opinion, obviously, but you can't definitively say that the Xbox One S is the highest quality console on the market. It doesn't do 4K gaming compared to the PS4 Pro, for one, and it isn't as powerful as the base PS4 or Pro, which leads to lower resolution for some titles. It also just has less titles released on it overall. How are you possibly measuring that it is the best, outside of parameters that are extremely subjective?The Xbox One S is probably the best console that's ever been made, in terms of sheer quality, in big part thanks to the newest update (it's not out for everybody yet). Great controller, Live is waaaay better than any other online service, etc etc.
But the games, man. The games just are not there. Microsoft is really disappointing me on the software front.
Ah no you're right my bad. Its a bit early in the morning here so I had a bit of a brain fart. Well I could see Scorpio boosting XB1 sales past 360 for a while but I really doubt it would sustain any sort of momentum long enough to overcome the boost kinect ended up giving the 360 later on. Again this is only in the US. WW its already a lost battle.
To be fair, the Xbox One is selling like hotcakes but it looks bad against the beast PS4.
Lol it's the total opposite but coming from where he is he can't really be honest here. All they can do is keep trying to ride that Scorpio buzz, seems that's what they've been doing ever since they announced the damn thing.
What does live do better than other services? I guess it has been down less than psn last year But that's not saying much. The interface of the Xbox is still slow as fuck, installing games is still a chore and when you talk about the controller are you talking about the Elite? Cause I was a big fan of the original controller but they're even more shitty than the PS4 ones considering I haven't used mine that much and one has a dead d-pad and left stick drift. Meanwhile 360 ones still rocking strong.
Eh, can't really agree on that one. I found my Xbox One's interface to be slow and clogged, the download speeds were much slower, install speeds were slower, store was more of a hassle to navigate. This is just my opinion, obviously, but you can't definitively say that the Xbox One S is the highest quality console on the market. It doesn't do 4K gaming compared to the PS4 Pro, for one, and it isn't as powerful as the base PS4 or Pro, which leads to lower resolution for some titles. It also just has less titles released on it overall. How are you possibly measuring that it is the best, outside of parameters that are extremely subjective?
It's really not though. It's ahead of the 360 launch aligned in North America but it literally doesn't exist anywhere else on Earth.
Is there a remote play feature similar to what Sony has implemented yet?
On the subject of the Xbox One being a great gaming console, is there a remote play feature similar to what Sony has implemented yet?