It'd certainly be interesting to see, at the very least. I liked the idea of the Steam machines, and it's a shame they never took off, but with MS's hardware and software experience they may just be able to give living room gaming PCs the push they've needed.
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Phil Spencer thinks this is Xbox's best generation so far
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It'd certainly be interesting to see, at the very least. I liked the idea of the Steam machines, and it's a shame they never took off, but with MS's hardware and software experience they may just be able to give living room gaming PCs the push they've needed.
ElBoxyBrown
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With the Windows Store? They can try but it won't go anywhere.
DriftingSpirit
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*sigh*
Phil, why did you even say anything? lol
I mean, I don't disagree with Jason either. It is just something he shouldn't have replied to. Just keep working silently.
Phil, why did you even say anything? lol
I mean, I don't disagree with Jason either. It is just something he shouldn't have replied to. Just keep working silently.
digoutyoursoul
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How many times, particularly since around 2010 has their gaming output been questioned ? It's a lot isn't it. It should be about the games first, not the style of hardware.
Scorpio isn't a bad idea, like Pro is to PS4 but it's not addressing the real issues here which is their first party strategy.
So simple - this.
The windows store can always be improved. Esspecially if they have a product riding on it.
AngelOFDeath
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This is typical PR talk, there is no need to argue it. No company is going to tout their previous work is better than their current even if it is true.
Phil should have just not responded to this, but he did and he responded the only way he could.
Phil should have just not responded to this, but he did and he responded the only way he could.
BRocknRolla
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His comments are nonsense, but he's PR for the brand just as much as anything else. It's what I'd expect.
I honestly think it's nuts to suggest though that this gen is better than what they accomplished during the 360 era in most ways.
I honestly think it's nuts to suggest though that this gen is better than what they accomplished during the 360 era in most ways.
It may not have the best original IPs. But I have like 30 games that I want to play sitting on my hard drive. With the weekly digital sales and Games with Gold (plus BC GWG) it's so much stuff to play.
Diablohead
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this.
I used to think console wars was mainly something kids did because they couldn't afford more than one console so they had to put the other one down, playground style. I'm sure we've all had encounters with this if you grew up a gamer.
But now it's like some kind of weird sports fanatic I am my franchise rule of thought. Maybe I don't get this rule of thought because I grew up a Bengals fan and despise the team I root for ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Possumowner
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Really cannot agree with him on this,nope not one bit
Alter_Fridge
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benicillin
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Wait, did the Phil Spencer spin machine finally break down?
You both make excellent points since not many want that Windows Store bs.
Savantcore
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I used to think console wars was mainly something kids did because they couldn't afford more than one console so they had to put the other one down, playground style. I'm sure we've all had encounters with this if you grew up a gamer.
But now it's like some kind of weird sports fanatic I am my franchise rule of thought. Maybe I don't get this rule of thought because I grew up a Bengals fan and despise the team I root for ¯\_(ツ
Xbox owners lamenting Microsoft's lack or misspending of money resonates so much with me as an Arsenal fan. The sports team analogy is spot on.
3rdamention
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What was the "chain of command" here in those tweets?
Was Schreier making those comments, then XBX4LFE ran to Phil with them to get a response?
EDIT: Ok, I see, XBX4LFE went to Phil with those tweets and said something like "Show them we can compete!" Also, it appears Schreier's tweets upset Tim Dog as well.
Was Schreier making those comments, then XBX4LFE ran to Phil with them to get a response?
EDIT: Ok, I see, XBX4LFE went to Phil with those tweets and said something like "Show them we can compete!" Also, it appears Schreier's tweets upset Tim Dog as well.
For how much I like my XBox One for stuff like Forza Horizon 3 and Ori, Sony is honestly blowing them out of the water with PS4, sales and contentwise.
Horizon is an amazing game (usually when I have to sacrifice an entire weekend to finish a game to make a deadline, afterwards I'm fed up with the game or gaming in general. After delivering my text, I just jumped right back into Horizon to do some more sidequests. That's a very, very good sign), Gravity Rush 2 has it's flaws but is an unique experience, and even though it's third party, Yakuza 0 is a blast. And that's only what came out in the scope of one month.
Spencer is a chill dude, and offcourse he got to protect his brand, but honestly he talks out of his ass a lot of time, and I feel people have put to much faith in him after he replaced Don. I mean, Lionhead died under his watch, From Dusk and Scalebound got canned, ...
Horizon is an amazing game (usually when I have to sacrifice an entire weekend to finish a game to make a deadline, afterwards I'm fed up with the game or gaming in general. After delivering my text, I just jumped right back into Horizon to do some more sidequests. That's a very, very good sign), Gravity Rush 2 has it's flaws but is an unique experience, and even though it's third party, Yakuza 0 is a blast. And that's only what came out in the scope of one month.
Spencer is a chill dude, and offcourse he got to protect his brand, but honestly he talks out of his ass a lot of time, and I feel people have put to much faith in him after he replaced Don. I mean, Lionhead died under his watch, From Dusk and Scalebound got canned, ...
I really like the XB1 but, while it does have something I prefer over the 360, the games lineup doesn't compare to the previous gen at all. Would love to see MS put resources into titles with smaller scopes than the usual Halo/Gears release (ala Ori) to try and flesh out the lineup more.
Came from one of those "superfans" on Twitter.
"we"? lol
What is it with some brands and their fans.
I think they are going to push the 4K graphics feature hard and fail spectacularly.
onemanasylum
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This is obvious, not sure why people are confused.
Yup.
CassidyIzABeast
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Came from one of those "superfans" on Twitter.
Oh so his comments were about consoles sales performance and not this being the best generation is regards to games at all. Non-story then.
Moon Presence
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Dudes, he can't say anything else. Of course it's bs but it's a normal statement.
MadClacker
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My personal experience with the console was not very good. Unreliable, crashing, slow and sluggish UI. But that's just mine. I loved the games though!
I also didn't have a lot of luck with PS2's either, hence my decision to use the OG Xbox as my primary console in that generation.
Yup. Seems you can summon the head of Xbox these days if you're a badshit crazy xbox twitter fanboy.
always crazy bacon
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And that is a perfect description of the PC Engine Supergrafx.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
The problem with MS is the lack of dedicated event. Fans have to wait for E3 every year for one or two teasers that might get canned in the end.
If they had something in between like how they did in the 360 days people can get hyped even for shitty CG trailers. Keep people talking about your brand not remain in the dark.
If they had something in between like how they did in the 360 days people can get hyped even for shitty CG trailers. Keep people talking about your brand not remain in the dark.
Omotesando
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I know bro.
ElBoxyBrown
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It's a waste of time and money. The Windows Store will just be a marketplace that exists. Windows 10 users barely use it as it is.
Xbox 360 still stands out as the best iteration they've had to me. Bought a X1 S last autumn and definitely disappointed in my purchase. It doesn't even come close to my PS4. Only keeping it for a few titles and backwards compatibility. Debated selling it off until Scorpio, but I will wait until we have more info how this will all work. Also, would wait a year before buying a Scorpio like I am with the PS4 Pro.
onemanasylum
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How the heck did you come to this conclusion?
Plague Doctor
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Agree with this and would be definitely interested in the next hardware if they went this route.
Wandering Robot
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My immediate reaction was to grimace and say, "He's paid to say that..." before I even opened the thread.
Because that's what this is. Stuff he gets paid to say. It would have been better for him to not reply, of course, since Jason's not wrong.
Because that's what this is. Stuff he gets paid to say. It would have been better for him to not reply, of course, since Jason's not wrong.
pr0cs
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Microsoft will always have an uphill battle this gen considering how badly the xbone launched.
Scorpio could change things but only if they have compelling software.
Play anywhere could be a really great differentiator but the windows store is stuck in 1998, in other words, terrible
Scorpio could change things but only if they have compelling software.
Play anywhere could be a really great differentiator but the windows store is stuck in 1998, in other words, terrible
wipeout364
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Are Nioh, and Yakuza actually going to sell or have any major appeal outside of a small group of enthusiasts and what numbers would they sell on XBOX anyway. Horizon is really the only one of those titles that is a big ticket title that would have sold on the Xbox platform. I really don't think dissing Halo Wars 2 is cool either; they got one of my favorite developers to do it and if you don't think releasing a RTS on a console in 2017 is a ballsy move then I don't know what to say. Anybody who likes Persona has a PS4 anyway so it's a nonissue.
What The Forest Taught Me
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I'd love to see one of the "Big Three" attempt to offer that, and Microsoft certainly does have the capital to drive a successful R&D cycle and release campaign. For a company with such vast financial resources at its disposal, Microsoft sure seems overly risk-averse of late.
Nydius
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It feels like I've been wishing for this for a long time. They drove FASA into the ground without even utilizing all of their IPs in the 360 era (as noted earlier). They treat their second party (is that still a term?) devs just as bad, as we saw with the way they essentially pigeonholed Bizarre Creations into a one-genre developer to the point where when they kicked them to the curb Activision only wanted them to make a Project Gotham type kart racer in Blur.
Then there's RARE... a company that could do so much for them and offered up quality titles like Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo, and Viva Pinata last gen only to get turned into their NXE/Avatar and Kinect bitch studio. I imagine a new Viva Pinata game would be on XBO would be well received as it's desperately lacking those types of games. Instead RARE has limped along with Sea of Thieves but that's destined to just be a purely niche offering (also as noted earlier). I'm not even sure it's worth calling them RARE anymore, much like Bioware to EA, it's just a studio branding with very little in common with its former self.
I miss the days when Microsoft tried new things and fostered new relationships (e.g. Mistwalker). I miss when I used to get excited about the weekly Live Arcade announcements.
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Is it any more or less ballsy than releasing a RTS on a console 8 years ago? You know, back when the original Halo Wars came out. You're reaching here and you know it.
onemanasylum
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That is precisely the issue though.. All those niche games add up quick.
You could. If you're interested in those games. If you're not into Japanese games, then many of those options won't matter to you.
MatrixMan.EXE
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I mean, speaking purely financially it objectively isn't their best generation so far but I don't know what else people expect Phil to say.
If it's the only/primary way to get games for this hypothetical living room PC Xbox then they could push it on people after a revamp.
Well VR and facism are making a comeback so anything is possible.
But you still made the comparison.
financially it probably is though. If I had to guess I would say that's the metric he's using at the moment.
Console manufacturers make all their money on licensing and software. If you include the billions spent on dlc and micro tractions these days I could easily see that being much better than what was being spent on the 360.
I agree that these games appeal to relatively a small number of users but they are the easiest exclusives as Sony did not do a ton of heavy lifting and they get the benefit of the sales. I doubt that Nioh and Yakuza cost Sony that much. Same with Persona. However, they bolster their library significantly in Japan as well as in the rest of the world.
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