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Phil Spencer: Xbox Series S|X will be supply constrained until 2023.

Vlodril

Member
Why is this such a big deal. Until you can get into every store and have plenty of consoles to buy the new gen consoles are supply constrained. It means nothing really so not sure why the arguing.
 

hinch7

Member
Maybe in the US for this upcoming holiday season. Elsewhere, I doubt that.

Xbox Series S's are always in stock in the UK, in shop and online. And Series X's are nearly always in stock. Reading the replies on this thread looks to be a similar thing in Europe too.
 
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I see S around here all the time. Very rare to see an X or either PS5. Though, I think PS5 has seen massive drops here in my area of Texas lately. I have relatives who are into reselling nonsense and they’ve apparently bought a lot lately.
 

Loope

Member
The whole discussion started with someone saying they couldn't buy a series x from a retail store or see one and apparantley it was constrained. We don't need to retailer stocks levels to prove either of those are not true.
We don't? How so? I never seen one myself, how does you or anyone else seeing one on a shelf, change that fact? They might be supply constrained in some regions.
 
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jm89

Member
We don't? How so? I never seen one myself, how does you or anyone else seeing one on a shelf, change that fact? They might be supply constrained in some regions.
Doesn't matter wether you or i see one or not, not here discussing anectodes of one person. I'm bored of this discussion and at this point i'm repeating my self.
 

Loope

Member
Doesn't matter wether you or i see one or not, not here discussing anectodes of one person. I'm bored of this discussion and at this point i'm repeating my self.
But it is what we're doing. Some guys don't see them on the shelves others do, what makes one side more in the right that the other? Are you kidding me?
 

pasterpl

Member
Why do you have the same avatar as Prinz valium and Goalus and some others? Are you part of the group: one of us one of use one of us one of us?
Ore is it that you al are members of the weight watchers?
We have lost the bet re GOW ragnarok being delayed to 2023. This is our part of the deal. We have to keep these now until the game officially releases.
 

Edgelord79

Gold Member
I live like 5 min away from this shop but thx :)
I think it’s about the point of feeling the need to take pictures of a store’s stock just because you have a desire to be “right” on an Internet forum.

It’s a little bizarre and really doesn’t really prove anything on a large scale.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Isn’t the S easier to manufacture and to replace on retail? I can’t believe that we’re still thinking that only what you don’t see on a store sells.

Yes, easier to make, easier to rotate in and out of retail. But because three people on gaf saw a few in Targets, clearly it means no one ever buys them anywhere :rolleyes:
 
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tommib

Gold Member
Yes, easier to make, easier to rotate in and out of retail. But because three people on gaf saw a few in Targets, clearly it means no one ever buys them anywhere :rolleyes:
No one buys Switchts, right? I see them everywhere on stores!

Angry Serious GIF
 
I'll take it even slower for you, constrained doesn't mean impossible to get, I've just showed you the biggest retailer in the UK hasn't got any, if it wasn't in any way constrained they would, surely that's simple even for you?

I've even shown you a retailer with a PS5 in stock right now, that doesn't make it not constrained.

Also when Spencer is talking about being constrained he is not just talking about this very second, he is talking about the run to Christmas and being available through the biggest selling period. This isn't hard to understand.
A quick search on Amazon UK shows it's in stock and funnily enough it's been in stock for months.
 
PS5 HFW bundles are available on PlayStation Direct right now. Guess the shortages are over and consoles have stopped selling.

My mate just picked up this bundle and was really pissed when he discovered his copy of Horizon Forbidden West was a digital copy and not a physical copy. 😂
 
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Banjo64

cumsessed
Where? Readily available in the UK all year long. Even the PS5 has nearly reached that point over the last 2 months. Poor USA.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
We don't? How so? I never seen one myself, how does you or anyone else seeing one on a shelf, change that fact? They might be supply constrained in some regions.
I;ve never seen a PS5 or Series X on shelf. I think the only place I've seen Series S were some Costco bundles on a skid a year ago.

Stock is so bad in my area, some of the Walmarts even have signs on the glass cabinets saying they dont even carry next gen systems at stores and to go online if you want to buy one.
 

DenchDeckard

Gold Member
I saw two series x in my local curry's today. Just sat on the shelf behind the counter. It was at the click and collect area so maybe they were just waiting for their customers to turn up but it felt good to see stock in a store.
 

DenchDeckard

Gold Member
27.08.22 Saturn




Same day
500 meters further a small Euronics elektronic store

The top picture is actual stock the other two are just pos, so good to see a store having 18 units of series x in stock though, that's like that pic of the 17 ps5s that were shared...looks like stock is turning up for these consoles.
 

RespawnX

Member
27.08.22 Saturn




Same day
500 meters further a small Euronics elektronic store
And nearly every other eletronics market in germany as Microsoft drops Series X simultaneously across all retailers and channels. That is also the reason why you can actually get the console. These big drops ensure some availability. 5 days later, all the shops and retailers are empty again. At Sony, there's a console here and a console there, then something goes on sale somewhere else, then elsewhere. A paradise for scalpers.
 
I think it’s about the point of feeling the need to take pictures of a store’s stock just because you have a desire to be “right” on an Internet forum.

It’s a little bizarre and really doesn’t really prove anything on a large scale.
It’s not about being right, it’s about proving that they are indeed available in abundance in stores. I am sure they aren't available everywhere, but to discount people that prove they are available in many stores locally is just foolish,
 

avin

Member
I get that they're present in some stores. However, supply constrained just means it would sell more if they could make more. The fact that they can be found in some stores, sometimes, some places, doesn't prove it wrong.

Fwiw, I agree it's unlikely to be as supply constrained as the PS5. But to argue they're not constrained at all based on that minimal evidence doesn't convince.

avin
 

Edgelord79

Gold Member
It’s not about being right, it’s about proving that they are indeed available in abundance in stores. I am sure they aren't available everywhere, but to discount people that prove they are available in many stores locally is just foolish,
Nice wordsmithing.

Nobody said they weren’t available somewhere.

You just made the argument of “in abundance in stores” after someone posted photos from 3 stores in Germany.

And yes, it’s a ridiculous effort to go to multiple stores just to try and prove a point that can’t be proven without more data than that.
 

Kagey K

Member
When in doubt just put your trust in Phil Spencer, It's not like he has a long history of lying, underdelivering, spinning or anything like that. He's just an all around trustworthy fella, he uses game related shirts and everything.
Imagine being permabanned from a PS forum for being too much of a Sony warrior and then getting banned here as well.

Twitter might be the best thing for your tirades.
 
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UnNamed

18+ Member
Thanks God I don't fucking care about this gen or I would pissed off by shortages and scalpers and other shitty/idiotic moves.

My next gen will start in 2024 with the Switch 2, or I wouldn't have any problem to jump it entirely.
 

Kagey K

Member
Thanks God I don't fucking care about this gen or I would pissed off by shortages and scalpers and other shitty/idiotic moves.

My next gen will start in 2024 with the Switch 2, or I wouldn't have any problem to jump it entirely.
I really thought the XB1/PS4 would be the stopgap generation, but I was entirely wrong.

The problem is with no big tech advances, how do we move to next Gen?
 
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DenchDeckard

Gold Member
Imagine being permabanned from a PS forum for being too much of a Sony warrior and then getting banned here as well.

Twitter might be the best thing for your tirades.

Holy shit, is this true? Did he get banned from that new playstation place?

That's golden, might have to go on ignore if they're that extreme haha.
 

DenchDeckard

Gold Member
If you can't buy something when and where you want to its supply constrained. I deffo feel that xbox demand is softer this year and supply has improved potentially due to this but it doesn't surprise me in a way when there's no tent pole exclusives for the platform this Xmas.

Ps5 has had a strong 2022 and has last of us and god of war coming so I can't see why the demand would taper off outside of the expected drop in demand due to worldwide recession. The price increase may not effect it too badly. As long as Sony has a strong 2023 the demand should stay.

We will need to see what stock looks like in peak on both consoles.
 
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Wohc

Banned
Imagine being permabanned from a PS forum for being too much of a Sony warrior and then getting banned here as well.

Twitter might be the best thing for your tirades.
How could i miss that new forum? And they also got a higly entertaining meltdown thread from another GAF warrior :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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RoadHazard

Gold Member
But S isn't. It's been freely available for a very long time. Maybe not EVERYWHERE, but definitely in most places.
 

Dolodolo

Member
Yes, easier to make, easier to rotate in and out of retail. But because three people on gaf saw a few in Targets, clearly it means no one ever buys them anywhere :rolleyes:

They buy it, even more than the xbox series X

The whole problem is that a fairly significant part is not selling very quickly, and now this console can be bought literally in any country in the world, in any consumer electronics store

Deficiency does not concern it
 
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