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Physician-Age: Calling all students and doctors

Tonight I went to the new interns welcome party. I saw my intern (as in the one who supervise me) there. It was late, we were quite intoxicated.

It is going to be fuuuuuun to manage the whole ward tomorrow (as it is saturday, there's only two people there, me and the intern).
 
Not a doctor, or a med student (currently in grade 12), but I really would like to be a doctor (radiologist, dermatologist, or neurologist). My biggest concern right now (as of this moment, anyway) is: how much physics knowledge is required, if at all? I'm planning on dropping my grade 12 physics course as my grades/motivation have been sapped due to my depression. Just wondering if this will screw me over in the long-run. Any advice, if anyone has the time to spare, would be highly appreciated!
 
Not a doctor, or a med student (currently in grade 12), but I really would like to be a doctor (radiologist, dermatologist, or neurologist). My biggest concern right now (as of this moment, anyway) is: how much physics knowledge is required, if at all? I'm planning on dropping my grade 12 physics course as my grades/motivation have been sapped due to my depression. Just wondering if this will screw me over in the long-run. Any advice, if anyone has the time to spare, would be highly appreciated!

Physics is tested on the MCAT, and medical schools require Physics 1 and 2 as part of your core undergrad curriculum, so you'll have to stick with it at least that far. I don't imagine physics being particularly important after you actually get into med school.
 
Physics is tested on the MCAT, and medical schools require Physics 1 and 2 as part of your core undergrad curriculum, so you'll have to stick with it at least that far. I don't imagine physics being particularly important after you actually get into med school.

If he ever gets into a Radiology program, I think physics knowledge is indeed required.

Didn't knew we a thread just for us... cool! :D

anyway I graduated in 2010 and am trying to become a Radiologist.
Here in Brazil is the hardest specialty... I hope I pass this year.

Always nice to hear from someone in Healthcare outside of the USA, since this thread is mostly about US graduates, residents or students talking about their own experiences which are of course interesting to read. I hope you do get into your desired program, when do you take your test (s)? I too graduated in 2010 but in Mexico, and I was a General Practitioner for a while but this year I took ENARM and aced it last September. I got accepted into Internal Medicine residency next March.
 
Not a doctor, or a med student (currently in grade 12), but I really would like to be a doctor (radiologist, dermatologist, or neurologist). My biggest concern right now (as of this moment, anyway) is: how much physics knowledge is required, if at all? I'm planning on dropping my grade 12 physics course as my grades/motivation have been sapped due to my depression. Just wondering if this will screw me over in the long-run. Any advice, if anyone has the time to spare, would be highly appreciated!
Don't let your experiences with science in high school deter you from anything in college.

Trust me.
 
I GOT INTO MED SCHOOL!!!!!!!

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Welcome to Best Best-gaf.
 
Man, the nursing student who gave me my flu shot must have been pissed off at me or something. I've never had someone shove a needle into my scrawny arm with that amount of velocity and force. The good news was that it was my non-dominant had, the bad news was I was I needed it for root scaling posterior teeth a couple of hours later. Clinic was incredibly painful today.

Got a neat Peanuts bandage though. They appear to be dancing in outer space.
 
That leaves pritzker and uic (northwestern is not in Chicago, right?)

Northwestern is in Streeterville so it's downtown
U. of C in Hyde Park
UIC in the medical district
Rush in the medical district
Loyola in Maywood
Chicago Med School (Rosalind Franklin) up north of the city
Midwestern in Downer's Grove

:O

You might be at my school.

If you're at where I'm at, you might've been one of my students and I'd never known.
 
congrats SoulPlaya! It's such a great feeling when you hear back.

Anybody else about to start interviewing for residencies? I'm coming from Texas so I'm a bit worried about the weather. I've only ever traveled up north during the spring/summer months so I have no idea what to expect. And stores around here haven't even started selling winter coats yet.
 
Another question:

How ist the specialisation in the US? How long would surgery or trauma surgery take?

Is the specialisation in the US generally accepted in other countries? Ist the specialisation of other countries accepted in the US?
 
I've got my first interview in 2 weeks. low stress though (peds)

as for coming here from another country - it's my understanding that you have to do residency all over again if you come here from another country. surgery in and of itself is a 5 year program. there are some integrated programs that speed up specializing further, but depending on what you specialize in it can add 1+ years on top of that.

for example, my friend is applying for vascular surgery combined program, it's a 5 year program - but there are only something like 40 or so spots nationwide, so it's very competitive
 
congrats SoulPlaya! It's such a great feeling when you hear back.
Thanks!

BTW, the school that I've been accepted to is one of the following.

UIC
Northwestern
Pritzker
Rush
Loyola

With the addition of Rosalind Franklin and Midwestern, these are considered the Chicago medical schools.

And you have to redo your residency if you're a foreign grad. You also have to take Step 1 & 2, if you haven't already, and 3 for the sake of board certification and licensure.
 
I GOT INTO MED SCHOOL!!!!!!!

Congrats. Such a great feeling when all that hard work in undergrad pays off. And so early too!

I'm always amazed at how early the U.S. folks can hear back with rolling admissions. Most Canadian med students (myself included) find out in mid May. (3 months prior to 1st year)
 
5th year Pharmacy student working at a retail chain.

I hate the fact that my job is basically no different than working at McDonalds. Our patients pretty much expect all their shit to be done in less than 5 minutes.

Today a patient got pissed off at me because I told her that she should go see her PCP because she is refilling her rescue bronchodilator waaaay to often. This is usually a sign that asthma is worsening and you may be about to have a serious attack that could put you in the ER.

She told me I was wasting her time. Fuck this job.
 
5th year Pharmacy student working at a retail chain.

I hate the fact that my job is basically no different than working at McDonalds. Our patients pretty much expect all their shit to be done in less than 5 minutes.

Today a patient got pissed off at me because I told her that she should go see her PCP because she is refilling her rescue bronchodilator waaaay to often. This is usually a sign that asthma is worsening and you may be about to have a serious attack that could put you in the ER.

She told me I was wasting her time. Fuck this job.


My sister is a retail pharmacist and she's pretty upset with the whole thing. She always comes back with the most bizarre stories though. She was telling me about her friend that was working the drive through at a Walgreens that had one of the patients inform them that it looked like there was a person in the bushes. Turns out there was just a dead body hanging out next to the pharmacy.

I decided not to go into pharmacy the day she came back pissed off because someone threw their refill bottles at her head because it was refill too soon.
 
5th year Pharmacy student working at a retail chain.

I hate the fact that my job is basically no different than working at McDonalds. Our patients pretty much expect all their shit to be done in less than 5 minutes.

Today a patient got pissed off at me because I told her that she should go see her PCP because she is refilling her rescue bronchodilator waaaay to often. This is usually a sign that asthma is worsening and you may be about to have a serious attack that could put you in the ER.

She told me I was wasting her time. Fuck this job.

Having to work in retail is why I didn't end up going to pharmacy school. While I certainly make less than a pharmacist, life in an analytical chem lab is far superior to retail.
 
Can anyone comment on their OB/GYN rotations during 3rd / 4th year? Maybe it's just the programs I've rotated though, but I honestly feel like the specialty attracts a type of person that just isn't pleasurable to work with. They honestly just aren't happy. My other rotation seniors (ie medicine, peds) have been quite friendly, I just feel like OB in general has quite a few people with angry/intense personalities :(
 
Can anyone comment on their OB/GYN rotations during 3rd / 4th year? Maybe it's just the programs I've rotated though, but I honestly feel like the specialty attracts a type of person that just isn't pleasurable to work with. They honestly just aren't happy. My other rotation seniors (ie medicine, peds) have been quite friendly, I just feel like OB in general has quite a few people with angry/intense personalities :(

My gf just finished her OB/GYN rotation last month and loved it. You are correct though, in the beginning she said most of the personalities can be strong/intimidating and she's as polar opposite from that as you can get. She was freaking out until she got her mid-clerkship review and her preceptor said how she was a favorite. She's very much a doer personality, though, more of a get things done quickly and systematically, and less of the slower, more analytical side you might get with something like medicine. After the first week of OB where she told me to never let her go into OB, it's now her top pick so far.
 

After finishing medical school, a residency in General Surgery is 5 years in length (which includes the intern year). To be a trauma surgeon, you need to complete an additional year in training (fellowship) in Surgical Critical Care.

This is about the average length for most specialties, eg:

Cardiologist: 3 years Internal Med + 3 years Cardiology fellowship
Interventional Radiologist: 5 years Diagnostic Radiology + 1 year Interventional
Pain Medicine: 4 years Anesthesia + 1 year Pain Medicine
 
Oh man, I despised OB/GYN, more than any rotation. Among my peers, it's an incredibly love-hate specialty, and of the 4 or 5 in my class gunning for it, they are enamored.

Personally, I find the surgery sloppy and the residents insufferable. Granted, the latter is due to my institution, and I can't generalize that. I have worse things to say, but I'll hold my tongue.

Regardless, I have a lot of respect for those who go into it. The patients are demanding, and the liability high (at least in the USA). All the best to your friends and colleagues who choose to pursue it.
 
Can anyone comment on their OB/GYN rotations during 3rd / 4th year? Maybe it's just the programs I've rotated though, but I honestly feel like the specialty attracts a type of person that just isn't pleasurable to work with. They honestly just aren't happy. My other rotation seniors (ie medicine, peds) have been quite friendly, I just feel like OB in general has quite a few people with angry/intense personalities :(


Pretty much how it is at my school. I hated my rotation for the exact same reasons. Even the people I know who liked the rotation hated the residents for the most part.
 
As an OB/GYN in practice for a little less than a decade with a busy OB and surgical practice, let me address some of the above comments:

1. "Sloppy surgeons" - I can see where your exposure to certain practitioners might color your view. It is a view held within our specialty as well. However, for what it is worth, I have seen my fair share of poor general surgeons as well. I personally believe that an extra year of residency would benefit the surgical side. I was fortunate in that I trained in a large, academic surgery focused residency and I had exposure and training in technical minimally invasive and vaginal procedures that smaller programs cannot provide. There is a very significant cadre of gynecological surgeons who take great pride in our surgical skills and acumen.

2. Clerkship - I agree - it can be pretty malignant. Again, it depends on who you get. As a more senior resident, I personally enjoyed teaching, but you need to realize it is the attendings' job (or maybe the chief residents') to teach. The residents are there to learn as well. As a resident, I found a certain cadre of medical students, how should I say this, intolerable. The ones who wanted to know where the call room was, bitched about not getting deliveries when they refused to get up, and disappeared when help was needed for exposure in a complicated vaginal repair at 3 in the morning. I agree that it is a bit shitty to be paying for the privilege to be up all night doing scut work, but that is the life of OB/GYN house staff. I recommend, however much you may detest the idea of being an OB/GYN, come to the clerkship with an open mind and be willing to pitch in. Knowing the cardinal movements of labor, the layers of the anterior abdominal wall, and the basics of pelvic anatomy will go a LONG way to making your clerkship more enjoyable.
 
What a great thread! I never would have guessed there were so many of us on here. I'm an MS3 in Michigan just about to start my radiology elective tomorrow. Can't wait :)
 
At my school, the OB/Gyn residents are the hot sorority girls. Really hot, but really bitchy.

I wish I had that problem lol. Colombia didn't attract good looking females during my years there



i start my surgery rotation tomorrow on one of the busiest services in the city. any tips?


study whenever you get free time, if you don't know where your resident is and are just sitting around, study. It is going to be a bitch but I actually had a lot of fun seeing so much, I didn't like that I had to do presentations on 3 cases though
 
As an OB/GYN in practice for a little less than a decade with a busy OB and surgical practice, let me address some of the above comments:

1. "Sloppy surgeons" - I can see where your exposure to certain practitioners might color your view. It is a view held within our specialty as well. However, for what it is worth, I have seen my fair share of poor general surgeons as well. I personally believe that an extra year of residency would benefit the surgical side. I was fortunate in that I trained in a large, academic surgery focused residency and I had exposure and training in technical minimally invasive and vaginal procedures that smaller programs cannot provide. There is a very significant cadre of gynecological surgeons who take great pride in our surgical skills and acumen.

2. Clerkship - I agree - it can be pretty malignant. Again, it depends on who you get. As a more senior resident, I personally enjoyed teaching, but you need to realize it is the attendings' job (or maybe the chief residents') to teach. The residents are there to learn as well. As a resident, I found a certain cadre of medical students, how should I say this, intolerable. The ones who wanted to know where the call room was, bitched about not getting deliveries when they refused to get up, and disappeared when help was needed for exposure in a complicated vaginal repair at 3 in the morning. I agree that it is a bit shitty to be paying for the privilege to be up all night doing scut work, but that is the life of OB/GYN house staff. I recommend, however much you may detest the idea of being an OB/GYN, come to the clerkship with an open mind and be willing to pitch in. Knowing the cardinal movements of labor, the layers of the anterior abdominal wall, and the basics of pelvic anatomy will go a LONG way to making your clerkship more enjoyable.

Thank you for the insight, great post!
 
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