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Pinnacle of each genre

Best Sierra Point-and-Click game: King's Quest VI
Best LucasArts Point-and-Click game: Day of the Tentacle
 
RTS: Theme Hospital
RPG: Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi
Dungeon Crawler: haven't played any, I think
2D Platforming: Super Mario Bros 3
3D Platforming: Banjo Kazooie
Fighting: Smash Bros
FPS: Doom (?)
Point and click adventure: Pink Panther game I played as a kid and beat like 10 times
Survival Horror: Luigi's Mansion
Beat em up: TMNT 3 Manhattan Project

Feel free to add more genres.[/QUOTE]
 
Gravijah said:
Why aren't there any modern games as scary as that?
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I dont know..

I fuckin love REmake to death, but i think survival horror, at least for me, benefits more from psychological horror than from anything else, plot also helps. I think Silent Hill 2 just nailed this, so as a pinnaple of the genre, id put it above RE. Even SH1 was great in its "less is more" regard considering hardware limitations, that fog really helped the atmosphere.

When it breakes down to wich is my favorite, i dont really know.. it could be REmake.
 
SalsaShark said:
I dont know..

I fuckin love REmake to death, but i think survival horror, at least for me, benefits more from psychological horror than from anything else, plot also helps. I think Silent Hill 2 just nailed this, so as a pinnaple of the genre, id put it above RE. Even SH1 was great in its "less is more" regard considering hardware limitations, that fog really helped the atmosphere.

When it breakes down to wich is my favorite, i dont really know.. it could be REmake.
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REmake scared me. Silent Hill 2 bothered me. It was emotionally draining.
 
Deathmatch mp fps: Quake 3
Team based mp fps: team fortress 2
Kart racer: mario kart wii
SotC type game: Shadow of the Colossus
Ambient puzzle game: Osmos
 
SalsaShark said:
I dont know..

I fuckin love REmake to death, but i think survival horror, at least for me, benefits more from psychological horror than from anything else, plot also helps. I think Silent Hill 2 just nailed this, so as a pinnaple of the genre, id put it above RE. Even SH1 was great in its "less is more" regard considering hardware limitations, that fog really helped the atmosphere.

When it breakes down to wich is my favorite, i dont really know.. it could be REmake.
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Remake has Silent Hill 2 by the balls when looking at gameplay though. It's production values are through the roof and with a director as great as Mikami, every penny went to the right place. It's funny how much atmosphere is gained just by recording different footstep sounds in high quality. The backgrounds being static is also very important. The camera angles are fine tuned and you always see what the director wanted... no hiccups there.

I love Silent Hill and it's the most scary game series out there. But Remake is just perfect in every sense...

And Remake has a great plot. You uncover it metroid style. Or if you don't feel like it, you can skip it all. Lisa Trevor had Lynch's elephant man vibes on her backstory. I get chills just thinking about it.
 
SalsaShark said:
I dont know..

I fuckin love REmake to death, but i think survival horror, at least for me, benefits more from psychological horror than from anything else, plot also helps. I think Silent Hill 2 just nailed this, so as a pinnaple of the genre, id put it above RE. Even SH1 was great in its "less is more" regard considering hardware limitations, that fog really helped the atmosphere.

When it breakes down to wich is my favorite, i dont really know.. it could be REmake.
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I don't consider SH2 to be the pinnacle of survival-horror, because its gameplay isn't quite up to par. It has a great story, but it's generally not as scary or as difficult as other titles in the genre like Fatal Frame 2, REmake, Siren or the very recent Amnesia: The Dark Descent.
 
I was a humongous Half-Life fan but I don't share the feeling that HL2 is the top fps, not even in the top five possibly. Absolutely great, but I'm not quite there with the rest of you.

The shooting aspect of HL2 isn't anything special, gravity gun became old before the HL2 campaign ended. Visuals and physics were great, the length of the campaign and the variety within were the absolute highpoints. Driving does not feel good (an unfortunate trait I feel is shared among most fps titles ). The biggest shame is that the combat just does not make it much worth replaying imho. I could play HL1 marine fights over and over but HL2 had a peculiar and disappointing downgrade here from it's six year older predecessor, the most important aspect of any fps.

I found BioShock to be quite more thrilling in 2007 than HL2 in 2004 (talking pure campaign focused fps titles). BS is very stilted though, linear and stiff.

As for best shooter ever... for it's time it was probably Half-life 1.
Crysis is probably the best fps visually (on a high end pc. Art direction and assets award goes to Killzone 2 however) but the campaign is as boring as rocks.
Halo 1 is a classic but the second half of the campaign was seriously flawed.

I guess...

Half-life 2 is actually the pinnacle of a great fps campaign currently on the market. A bit disappointing to me (I wouldn't put that adventure anything near the flawless experience I had with Demon's Souls for example, then again I wouldn't have done that with any rpg either made in the last five-eight years).
 
Gravijah said:
REmake scared me. Silent Hill 2 bothered me. It was emotionally draining.
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REmake scared me moslty in a cheap scare factor (i dont really wanna use this words because i love the game, but i dont know how else to describe it) as in moments that made me jump, or desperately run away, stuff like that. SH2 got to me in a whole different way.

zoukka said:
Remake has Silent Hill 2 by the balls when looking at gameplay though.
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Agreed there. Its a Mikami game.
 
Silent Hill 1 is the pinnacle of horror gaming.

The adventure ark and execution is absolutely perfect.

It is possibly the greatest game ever created.

No other game has such a deep atmosphere, such much investment of personal emotions when playing it. Eternal classic.
 
Vertical shooter: Mushihime-sama Futari 1.5 + Black Label... If I could only choose one, I'd go with Black Label I guess.
Horizontal shooter: Gradius V
Sidescrolling shooter: Metal Slug 3
Twinstick shooter: Geometry Wars 2
Action game: Ninja Gaiden Black (honorable mention to Ninja Gaiden 2's combat being leagues ahead of everything else)
2D Fighting game: Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix
3D Fighting game: Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution
JRPG: Persona 4
SRPG: Valkyria Chronicles
Whatever genre Demon's Souls is: Demon's Souls
MMO: World of Warcraft @ lvl 60
RTS: Starcraft: Brood War
Wrestling: Fire Pro Wrestling Returns
Racing: OutRun 2
Pinball: Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection

Puzzle: Ikaruga
 
For me this list is still valid even now. No nostalgic factors here, RE2 is better than RE4 and Baldurs Gate 2 is still the finest RPG around etc.

RPG: Baldurs Gate 2
RTS: Starcraft
Action Advanture: Zelda Majora's Mask
Advanture: Beneath a Steel Sky
Platforming: Super Mario Bros 3
Brawler: Streets of Rage 2
Fighter: Soul Calibur 2
FPS: Halflife 2
Horror: Resident Evil 2
Simulation: Sim City 4
Racing: Gran Turismo 2
 
FPS: Half-Life 2
Adventure: Shadow of the Colossus
Action: God of War
RPG: Kingdom Hearts :P
Fighting: Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Survival Horror: Dead Space
Stealth: MGS3
Sandbox: Red Dead Redemption
Party: Super Smash Bros Brawl
Platformer: Jak and Daxter: The Precursor's Legacy
 
RTS: Don't care, I'm awful at these
RPG: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
ARPG: Zelda: LttP
SRPG: Valkyria Chronicles
Dungeon Crawler: Persona 4 (yes it totally is a dungeon crawler)
2D Platforming: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
3D Platforming: Sly Cooper
Fighting: Street Fighter III: Third Strike
FPS campaign: HL2 Episode 2
FPS multi: Halo Reach (beta was enough to convince me)
FPA: Portal
TPS campaign: Gears of War
TPS multi: Transformers: War for Cybertron/Monday Night Combat
Point and click adventure: Day of the Tentacle
Survival Horror: REmake
2D Beat em up: D&D2: Shadow Over Mystara
3D Beat 'em up: Devil May Cry 3 SE
Rhythm: Ouendan
Rhythm w/ plastic instruments: Rock Band
Driving: Burnout 3
Sports: NFL Blitz
Extreme Sports: SSX Tricky
Metroidy-structured thing that's not Metroid: Batman: Arkham Asylum
Metroidy-structured thing that is Metroid: Super Metroid
Linear Action: Resident Evil 4
Free-roam Action: Dead Rising
Linear Adventure: ICO
Free-roam Adventure: Red Dead Redemption
Shmup: Mars Matrix
On-rails shooter: Panzer Dragoon 2 Zwei
Twin-stick Shooter: Geometry Wars 2
Flight combat: TIE Fighter
God Game: Rollercoaster Tycoon
Puzzle: Tetris Attack/Panel de Pon
Strategy: Advance Wars 2
Run & Gun: Metal Slug 3
Bunch o' Minigames: Warioware Twisted (honorable mention: FF Fables: Chocobo Tales)
Pinball (actual table): Funhouse
Pinball (videogame): Devil's Crush
Arcade shooting: House of the Dead 2
Arcade miscellaneous: that Fist of the North Star punching thing
 
RTS: Pikmin 2 (if this doesn't qualify and it has to be more classical, I'd take Dungeon Keeper)
japanese RPG: Mario & Luigi 3 (I generally love the fast paced action oriented gameplay style of this series over the typical RPG stuff, despite being able to appreciate Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, Baten Kaitos, ...)
Strategic RPG: Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
2D Platforming: Yoshis Island
3D Platforming: Super Mario Galaxy 2
2D arcade platforming: Sonic 2
3D arcade platforming: Sonic Unleashed 360
Collect-a-thon-platforming: Banjo-Kazooie
Action platforming: Conker's Bad Fur Fay
2D Action-Adventure: Zelda: Links Awakening
3D Action-Adventure: Zelda: Majoras Mask
2D skill game: Pac-Man
3D skill game: Super Monkey Ball 1 (don't know how this genre is called in English, it's often put under Platformer, but I mean those games that don't qualify as 'Jump & Runs' but depend heavily on the player's skill)
3D Action/Shooting game: Resident Evil 4
Action game: Blast Corps
Fun-Racer: Mario Kart DS
Future-Racer: F-Zero GX
Arcade-Racer: Crazy Taxi
Text adventure: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
2D shooter: Metal Slug series (no favourite in here)
Space Shooter: R-Type
Survival Horror: Eternal Darkness
Music: Jam with the Band (I just love the multiplayer to hell :))
Point and click adventure: have not played enough of them to judge

All the remaining genres listed below are genres I don't like at all and therefore can't judge.
Western RPG:
Dungeon Crawler:
Hack & Slay:
Beat em up:
Racing-Sim:
Fighting:
FPS: the only game remotely in this genre I like is Metroid Prime, I hate the general FPS gameplay
Sports:
 
2D Action Platformer: Super Castlevania IV
2D "Classic" Platformer: Mario 3, easily
2D Shooter/Platformer: Contra III
2D Adventure/Platformer: Super Metroid
2D Arcade Platformer: Rygar, then Rastan a respectable second.

3D Platformer:: Mario Galaxy 1 (haven't played 2 yet)
3D Action: Demons Souls. Nothing else even comes close

2D Vertical Shooter: Ikaruga
2D Horizontal Shooter: Gradius V

Point'n'click adventure: Probably Monkey Island II, although Loom is also a personal favorite.

Turn-based Strategy: Disciples II, followed by either of the GBA Fire Emblems.

Beat'em-up: probably the original Double Dragon...?
2D Fighter: Street Fighter IV, followed *very* closely by Smash Bros Brawl.
3D Fighter: Soul Caliber

Arcade Racer: Burnout 2(yes, two). The drifting in that game has still to be matched.
Other Racing: Mario Kart DS (haven't played the Wii version yet)

First Person... RPG?: Deus Ex, distant second is System Shock II
First Person Anything: Metroid Prime. Still the best example of how to do a console FPS properly.
Third Person Shooter: Resident Evil 4.

Survival Horror: Silent Hill 1 or 2.

RPG: Tough one. Final Fantasy 6,7 or Chrono Trigger
Action RPG: Ocarina of Time naturally, followed very closely by Link to the Past.
 
RTS: Age of Mythology
RPG: FF IX
2D Platforming: Sonic 2, loco roco
3D Platforming: Jak and Dexter
Fighting: SSF IV
FPS: Turok 2 / Duke Nukem 3D
Flight: Ace Combat
Point and click adventure: MI 3 (due to the awesome artwork)
Survival Horror: Silent Hill 2, resident evil 2
Beat em up: Streets of Rage 2
Racing: GT2
SRPG: Vandal Hearts / FFT War of the Lions
3DAction Adventure: Uncharted 2
Stealth: Tenchu
Sport: PES 4
Wrestling: WCW/NWO revenge
 
goddamn i wish ya'll would stop PMing me and demanding my lists. here:

RTS: Pikmin 2
RPG: Earthbound (honorable mentions: Xenogears, FF VI, Suikoden 2, TWEWY)
WRPG: Mass Effect 2 (i'm like an hour into Planescape: Torment, this might take it though)
F.R.E.E.: Shenmue 2
ARPG: Zelda: Link to the Past
SRPG: Valkyria Chronicles
Dungeon Crawler: Phantasy Star IV (i haven't finished Persona 4 yet)
2D Platforming: Mario 3 or SMW, not sure yet, damn sure wasn't Alex Kidd in Miracle World though
3D Platforming: Mario 64 (yeah i said it)
Fighting: Street Fighter 2 Turbo
FPS campaign: Bioshock
FPS multi: i played a few weeks of TF2 on XBL, that was cool
FPA: Portal
TPS campaign: 50 Cent: BoS
Point and click adventure: does Grim Fandango count? fuck you, it counts
Noir adventure: fuckin' Grim Fandango
Neo-Noir adventure designed by Kojima: Snatcher
Survival Horror: RE IV
Psychological/shit-your-pants horror: Silent Hill 2
2D Beat em up: Streets of Rage 2
3D Beat 'em up: Bayonetta?
Rhythm: Rez, Parappa
Rhythm w/ plastic instruments: Rock Band: Beatles
Driving: Super Mario Kart
Sports: Fight Night 3, NBA Jam
Extreme Sports: Katamari Forever
Metroidy-structured thing that's not Metroid: Castlevania SOTN
Metroidy-structured thing that is Metroid: Super Metroid
Linear Action: Metal Gear Solid 3
non-Free-roam Action: Killer 7
actual-Free-roam Action: Okami
Co-op action: Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Linear Adventure: Shadow of the Colossus
Free-roam Adventure: Red Dead Redemption, i guess? not big on sandboxes that aren't F.R.E.E.
Wrestling: prolly one of the N64 WCW ones, but only until i find a copy of Super Fire Wrestling Pro or whatever that one was
Waggle: No More Heroes
Shmup: Gaires?
On-rails shooter: House of the Dead: Overkill
Typing shooter: Typing of the Dead
Twin-stick Shooter: Everyday Shooter
Flight combat: playing as Vega in SF II
God Game: Actraiser
Wu-Tang related product: Shaolin Style, with a quiet nod to Afro Samurai
Puzzle: Lumines. i'm not sure where Phoenix Wright goes, now that i think on it
Run & Gun: Contra III: Alien Wars
Game that GAF fucking hates to death: Heavy Rain
 
forgot: Best Survival Horror under $20 - Deadly Premonition (looking forward to Amnesia, though).
Best ARPG featuring a transgendered character: Nier

we could use more superlatives, is what i'm saying.
 
Frustrating: Bomber King
Visual Novel to spawn a popular internet flash game: Cross Channel
Beginning of the hardcore shmup: Rayxanber II

=p
 
JRPG: Chrono Trigger
Linear WRPG: KOTOR
Open world WRPG: Morrowind
2D platformer: Super Mario World
3D platformer: Super Mario Galaxy
RTS: Age of Empires II
FPS: Half-Life 2 (with episodes)
TPS: Uncharted 2
Action: No More Heroes
Free roam action: Mafia
Zelda-like game: Link's Awakening
Metroid-like game: Metroid Prime
Metroid-like game with a male main character: Batman Arkham Asylum
Point and click adventure: The Longest Journey
Horror game with guns: Resident Evil 4
Horror game without guns: Silent Hill Shattered Memories
Sports: FIFA 98
Sim/God game: Black And White
Pokémon game: Gold, of course.
 
RTS: Age of Empires 2
RPG: Earthbound
2D Platforming: Yoshi Island
3D Platforming: Super Mario Galaxy 2
2D Fighting: Last Blade
3D Fighting: Tekken 3
FPS: Perfect Dark 64
Survival Horror: Eternal Darkness (if that counts) or RE4
Beat em up: Street of Rage 2
Action/Adventure: Super Metroid
Racing: Beetle Adventure Racing
TBS: Civ 4
 
Kids these days... Halo, or any FPS this gen, is not the best in the genre.
StarEye said:
How is sci-fi settings more adult than actual historical setting?
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Civ is a dumbed down version of Alpha Centauri.
 
FPS should be divided between console and computer due to the never ending shitty battle between 'M+KB FOR LIFE' and controllers.

also, for consoles it's obviously halo at the top of the genre, but quite a long way.
 
DY_nasty said:
Kids these days... Halo, or any FPS this gen, is not the best in the genre.

Civ is a dumbed down version of Alpha Centauri.
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You mean, Alpha Centauri is a more advance version of Civ. Civ came first, remember.
 
StarEye said:
You mean, Alpha Centauri is a more advance version of Civ. Civ came first, remember.
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Yeah, Civ came first. Too bad its still inferior to Alpha Centauri. But hey, barbarians are infinitely more significant than mind worms and diplomacy has taken huge steps forward since then right?
 
Platformer: Virtual Boy Wario Land
Action Adventure: Metroid: Zero Mission
Third Person Shooter: Resident Evil 4
Turn-based Strategy: Alpha Centauri
Flight Simulator: Ace Combat 5
Real-Time Strategy: StarCraft
RPG: The Temple of Elemental Evil
Point-n-Click Adventure: Riven
Shoot-em-Up: Radiant Silvergun
Beat-em-Up: Battle Circuit
Racing: F-Zero X
Mecha: Silent Line: Armored Core
 
FPS - Half-Life 2 (series)
FPSRPG - Borderlands
2D Platformer - Super Mario World
3D Platformer - Super Mario Galaxy 2
Racing - Burnout 3: Takedown
JRPG - Guadia Quest ( I don't play many JRPG's)
Action - Devil May Cry 2
Stealth - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Open World - GTA 4
MMO - World of Warcraft
RTS - Starcraft 2
Photography - Pokemon Snap
Fighting - Super Street Fighter 4
Arcade Fighting - MvC2
Survival Horror - Silent Hill 2
Puzzle Game - Professor Layton series
Dragon Riding - Panzer Dragoon Saga
3rd Person Shooter - Uncharted 2
Sports - Wii Sports
Light Gun Shooter - Dead Space Extraction
 
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