EatinOlives
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That box art is hilarious. Wilma's just BEGGING Fred to stop and come home, probably been gone for 3 months and Fred ditched the kids three weeks ago to drop weight.
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Play This Game: The Flinstones:Surprise at Dinosaur Peak
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That box art is hilarious. Wilma's just BEGGING Fred to stop and come home, probably been gone for 3 months and Fred ditched the kids three weeks ago to drop weight.
Not everyone is down for pirating games just because they want to play them.
Digital preservation = ensuring that the data does not get lost.
It does not mean "This game is expensive and I'm too cheap to pay for a copy so I'm just going to pirate it because REASONS!"
If you are serious about digital preservation, then you're going to setup a museum or library.
If you are just downloading games to play, you're not being "a digital preservationist." You're being a pirate.
In this case, I'm not sure if claiming someone "too cheap" to buy this is exactly the right way to go...
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
If you are calling people pirates for not wanting to pay $850 to an ebayer for a rental only game with absolutely no way to compensate the rights holder for it, you're not being a righteous savior of the game industry. You're being a pedant.
kitschykitty
Member
You could always get lucky and find it for $4.95
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
...are these two skeezballs the reason NES games cost ten times what they did ten years ago?
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
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Seriously, you don't need to be a white Knight for the games industry, especially in a case like this where you couldn't even buy the fucking game when it was new.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Lol I would love to see half of the people in this thread get banned over talking about pirating The Flinstones: Surprise at Dinosaur Peak.
LMAO
It wasn't ever confirmed to be a Blockbuster/rental only; A lot of collectors assume this over time because it was in really low print, and most people didn't see it much outside of the rental stores. It's one of those claims that's been around for so long and there's no conflicting evidence otherwise so most just take that for fact.
Really I think it's similar to most other rare NES games that came out late in the systems life, in that most stores were wiping their NES inventories clean so these already scarce games got even harder to find.
By humorous example, here's a sealed Ubisoft version of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade that KayBee Toys was begging to get off their shelves
Now this little game sells for, oh, $160-200 complete.
drotahorror
Banned
Holy crap that game has amazing graphics for NES.
Lord British
Member
I covered this game and several other Flintstones titles in my video Franchise & Lows - The Flintstones.
Plugging, but the videos aren't monetised and I thought it might be of interest to the thread. I'm no professional though.
Plugging, but the videos aren't monetised and I thought it might be of interest to the thread. I'm no professional though.
Not everyone that feels that way is being righteous. I might be persuaded if you were talking about food, shelter or health care, but you're talking about playing a video game. You aren't owed or entitled to play every game in existence just because you want to. It's not some basic human right that everyone deserves. There are many things I want that I can't afford. I just go without them instead of trying to justify why it's OK to steal them.
Either you pay up 850 dino bones or you don't play, amirite?
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
maybe you don't steal, but you sure do know how to lie. but I guess that's not technically illegal in this context, so you still have the +1 over all the filthy pirates in this thread.
We are all taking note of your principled beliefs and are very proud of you, now run along.
I haven't denigrated anyone here or called names, you seem overly sensitive to an opposing viewpoint. I'm sharing my position, I'm not claiming to be better than anyone.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
What brought you to this point of view? Why does it matter so much over what amounts to an orphaned work?
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
It's a viewpoint I've seen a lot and know there's no compromise. People are well aware of the technical illegality here. They just don't care because it's basically less than jay-walking at this point, for this particular game. If the game ended up on VC, then everything is different and I'm on your side.
Food for thought: if the game somehow ended up on VC, it's because so many got to play the rom, loved it, and created demand for it. The rom that got preserved by "piracy" and making copies of it that circulate. So, it's a good bit more complicated than "this is illegal, thus you should not ever play it."
now can we be done with the derail
At that point I kind of wonder what's left. I thought mario party was what happened when you put condensed bullshit in to it's purest form.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. It's not my viewpoint on just games, but all commercial items. I will try to explain though, I apologize if it gets rambling.
Orphaned or abandoned doesn't factor into it for me unless it was released to the public domain. At the time of manufacture, in the case of the game, someone paid for the license to use the game. That transfer of license in this case was to blockbuster. That license had value. When blockbuster sold it to a consumer, that transfered to them. That licence still has value today (inflated as it is), not to the original creator, but to whomever it has been transfered to. It is the same principle for any commodity.
To me it is no different than buying a used car. Ford, Chevy, Toyota, whatever it may be won't get a thing from that sale, they only did on the initial purchase. The person who initially bought it though will profit from it and should, they are the current owner.
To me, in the case of the game, it is devaluing the worth of the original copies, which hurts the legitimate owners. As games are a luxury item and not required to sustain life, it seems hard to justify it, again to me.
Lionel Richie
Member
Goddamn, that's a great song. Is the game this awesome?
I'll just say you have an incredibly warped way of looking at things compared to me. I frankly couldn't give the slightest shit if they lose some of their worth, the crucial difference between your car argument is that these aren't just cubes of metal - they're creative works. People should be able to decide play the lost older games, for the sake of game history, and collectors shouldn't be some final arbiter on that decision. Luckily reality doesn't follow your opinion.
I'd guess that the person who designed your car would disagree over it not being a creative work, but I appreciate the well reasoned response. Games are no more a work of art than movies, music, literature, etc. (all of which have value) Most are not freely available in a legal sense for your personal consumption just because you want it to be. People break all kinds of minor laws daily, many of which aren't worth taking note of. I'm not all that concerned with it, I just find it funny when people try and make themselves feel better about it by justifying it as things like preservation instead of admitting the selfish reasons for it. You're not preserving game history by playing illegal roms, you're satisfying your personal desire to play something you don't own.
I'm interested in touring Japan, I am having trouble finding someone to let me do it for free though, even though I'm sure it would be very culturally rewarding.
Edit: Before I get blasted for an unrealistic comparison, let me throw out a more reasonable one. I would like to attend many sold out concerts. I have yet to get into one using the argument that the scalper tickets are to expensive and the performance going on is art and we should all be able to attend for reasons.