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Played 'WOW' for the first time last night
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The game do SUCKS at early lvl. Don't judge a game if you have only played 5 or 6 lvls. At this lvl :
1) You can't do PVP battlegrounds/arenas
2) You can't do instances or raids
3) You can't use talents for upgrading spells to be more powerful or unique.
4) Have barely any spells at all
5) No mounts
6) You have no money
7) You have no professions or they are at very early lvls with barely any interesting for you
8) Gear have 0 stats
9) You can't enjoy getting as many crazy achievements as you can
10) You can't fly
11) You are playing alone most of the time
12) Have only seen 1 (and they are far from being the coolest) zone out of all the hundreds out there.
I could come with more, but the game at early lvls is missing a lot of the cooler aspects of the game. No wonder some people say the game is "boring" if they quit after only 6 lvls.
1) You can't do PVP battlegrounds/arenas
2) You can't do instances or raids
3) You can't use talents for upgrading spells to be more powerful or unique.
4) Have barely any spells at all
5) No mounts
6) You have no money
7) You have no professions or they are at very early lvls with barely any interesting for you
8) Gear have 0 stats
9) You can't enjoy getting as many crazy achievements as you can
10) You can't fly
11) You are playing alone most of the time
12) Have only seen 1 (and they are far from being the coolest) zone out of all the hundreds out there.
I could come with more, but the game at early lvls is missing a lot of the cooler aspects of the game. No wonder some people say the game is "boring" if they quit after only 6 lvls.
JumpJeff84
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expy said:
yeah, that's what I figured. I will say this- there was something there. Even though I'm not all in yet, I can sense already that the whole 'carrot on a stick' thing of how often you level up is very nicely tuned. Combat is actually a little more fun than I expected, believe it or not.
The really interesting thing is to finally play this game after all these years of hearing people talk about it on podcasts and other things like that. So far, it's kinda what I expected I think.
With regards to learning new spells, how does that happen? If I level up will that get me Frost, or do I have to find it?
Bisnic said:
The game doesn't even start IMO until 80. Leveling in the early levels is fun when others are around like during expansion, and when the game first launched(the best time to have ever leveled in WoW). However it is a totally different experience from doing shit like HM Lich King. It's not even comparable.
Cata is bringing a lot of awesome stuff to leveling. If someone is starting right now, they should wait until Cata comes out.
Whoompthereitis said:
The combat you are experience leveling, is different then what you will experience at max levels.
Once you hit max level head over to http://elitistjerks.com/ to learn all about your class. Min maxing, the math behind it, the rotation/priority system you use etc.. For older players this is standard, but for new players it can get a bit complicated. www.mmo-champion to read up on news. You can read their forum but if you want to learn about your class, unless they provide the math behind it (like EJ does), take it with a grain of salt.
http://www.arenajunkies.com/ to learn about Arena PVP and all the ins and out's of that aspect of the game.
www.curse.com to get addons.
EJ is the standard for learning in-depth about classe. This is something you will have to do if you want to accomplish anything at max level.
MMO-champion is the standard for all news and leaks about World of Warcraft, especially patches and expansion information.
Whoompthereitis said:
Once you reach lvl 10, you can specialize into 3 different trees : Arcane & Fire & Frost.
If you choose Frost, you get more powerful Frost spells, get unique Frost spells that Arcane & Fire mages wont have, a water elemental pet for example.
Everytime you lvl, you get 1 talent point which you can put in a tree, which will get you more powerful & unique spells the more you lvl up.
And Blackface, its far too early for a new player to tell him about min/maxing and spell rotations. :lol Don't scare him like that.
JumpJeff84
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Blackface said:
thanks. Honestly, I'm gonna do this very straightforward I think. I'm sure Cata is the shit, but I really do wanna experience the regular-ass WOW that so many millions have been hooked on. If I'm still in when Cata comes out, I'll be sure to check it out. My guess is that I probably won't be though.
I'm on a normal non-PVE server, and that's good for me. For now I'm just interested to see the areas in the game, check out the artwork and do some questing.
They're trying their best to get new players come Cata. Sweeping changes to leveling and class design along with restructuring the old world quests, in conjunction with leveling off of BG's and Random Dungeon finder, it's going to be a totally different game, starting at level 10.
Since we just heard about patch 3.9, that it's launching 1-month prior to Cata, and in it is going to be all the old world revamps, anyone on the fence should just wait, unless you're really that bored.
Since we just heard about patch 3.9, that it's launching 1-month prior to Cata, and in it is going to be all the old world revamps, anyone on the fence should just wait, unless you're really that bored.
JumpJeff84
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Bisnic said:
Thanks, appreciate it. I'll definitely go Frost. I liked the ice spells in Dragon Age, so I'll stick with that.
Also, don't forget to go see your class trainer every 2 lvls. They will always have a new spell or spell upgrade for you.
And yeah frost is the best for questing. Once you reach lvl 13 or something, you already have a 15% chance to freeze your target in place with a single Frostbolt.
Here, take a look at whats waiting for you at lvl 10 and check the Frost tree : http://www.wowhead.com/talent#o
And yeah frost is the best for questing. Once you reach lvl 13 or something, you already have a 15% chance to freeze your target in place with a single Frostbolt.
Here, take a look at whats waiting for you at lvl 10 and check the Frost tree : http://www.wowhead.com/talent#o
JumpJeff84
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Takuan said:
Is that really true? Well then, glad I didn't wait. This whole thing cost me like 25 bucks.
turnbuckle
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Me too...Hari Seldon said:
Whoompthereitis said:
You won't need to buy Cataclysm and upgrade your account through all expansions to enjoy the new 1-60 content. All of it will change for EVERYONE in a month or two.
Cataclysm is only required to play Worgens, Goblins, their starting zones and the new lvl 80-85 zones.
Assuming it's the same as the others, and you've only forked out for 'vanilla' WoW, you'll need to buy BC and WotLK in order to play Cataclysm.Whoompthereitis said:
That's interesting, I hadn't really thought about the impact that Cataclysm would have on vanilla only people. I guess it'll be quite a powerful incentive for people to buy when they see everyone else flying around Azeroth though. ^_^Bisnic said:
jim-jam bongs
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Whoompthereitis said:
As other people have said it's the group gameplay that really shines, but I'd also suggest switching to a Draenai mage. Not only do the female ones have hot booties, the starting areas were introduced in the first expansion so they're far more interesting and cohesive than the other races' starting zones.
And yes, frost is awesome.
JumpJeff84
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jim-jam bongs said:
I dunno why, but I always play as a human when given the choice.
Vigilant Walrus
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Blackface said:
I will stand behind this statement, and I am in the beta too.
I simply think that it's too much of a chance, to be allowed to get a honeymoon for a MMORPG AGAIN, after 6 years of polish and improving. It's an incredible experience.
As for addiction problems, I don't think this is an isssue at all, but for a very tiny amount of people. Addiction to MMORPG has to most become a superficial term, spread by placebo minds, who thinks they are addicting. It's like internet mentality. You read a crazy story about some guy gained 500 pounds because of WoW, because he locked himself in on a toilet eating cupcakes and playing WoWs until he almost OD'ed when he tried to snort the icing and frosting on the big cakes.
Stuff like this just sorta spreads.
To a lesser degree you have had the same stories about EQ, Diablo 2 and Civlization for many years. I truly believe that it's just overblown. It's not a problem at all, just like it ain't for most games.
I think being afraid of getting addicted to WoW, is the same as being afraid of buying a beer because your affraid of becoming an alcoholic. For the vast majority its simply not a problem.
Vigilant Walrus
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dallow_bg said:
Many of the quests have been altered in the beta. For example, you got a lot more fun quests now, with vehicles sections all around. Before your lvl 14, you have to control crazy scarecrow machines, on suicide missions, and before your lvl 20 your destroying hundreds of Orcs on siege tanks.
They speeded up the gameplay, levelling and such, so it feels like less than a grind, than anything before it.
It's also due to them.. "streamlining" the game. Not anymore wasting your time running back and forth, back and forth just to waste the players time. No, it's snappy and to the point.
All the quest items drop almost instantly, and many quests have you kill half or collect half of what you used to.
Not everything, but they have made lots of progress.
Combined with being able to go to Random Dungeons and Random PvP, by the cross-server instancing technology(completely changed WoW), you get three incredible varied types of gameplay, basically at once. The variation that persists in WoW now is absolutely incredible. And while I am doing this three things, solo questing, dungeon grouping and pvping in battlefield like battlegrounds, I got addons like Bejeweled, and working on crafting skills.
It's quite amazing. It's really getting tight, and actually - With the stuff in beta, I think it's.... I actually can't think of anything like it. Just the speed it brings you up to snuff, so fast and efficently. It's like they are finally not wasting your time, which has always been the main problem.
But of course, what the Cata launch will bring is a rebirth of the community. Hopefully it will be like launch day, and you will have gazillion of people going through rediscovering the world - Just without the hurdles and problems of MMOs that needs year before they really find legs.
I'm excited to see this game come out. I think it will make headlines again, and surprise people, and I think it has nothing to worry about in the face of Blizzards own Diablo 3, or the competitors GW2 and SWTOR, even though both games look great. WoW is just getting too damn solid.
I really think it will surprise you, if you feel the current game is "grinding".
Came back after a year and a half on Sunday, and fuck, they really need to fix the barrier to entry for PvP. I'm already completely geared up in Heroic/Badge loot, but weeks if not months away from getting a decent PvP armor set. Thought about combining Titan-Forged with Honor pieces, but even that would take over 40 Wintergrasp wins.
I know it's kind of dumb for me to finally be interested in PvP so late in the expansion, but man, why does it have to be so fucking tedious to get decent PvP gear?
And good on you for playing before Cataclysm. At least you'll be able to see what we had to struggle through (albeit without those fancy cheap mounts at level 20! :lol )
I know it's kind of dumb for me to finally be interested in PvP so late in the expansion, but man, why does it have to be so fucking tedious to get decent PvP gear?
And good on you for playing before Cataclysm. At least you'll be able to see what we had to struggle through (albeit without those fancy cheap mounts at level 20! :lol )
Projectjustice
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notsol337 said:
I havent played for a while (over a year) but if you're an experience player thats cool. I doubt you were born with such skills. It takes many gankings to get there and some players never do.
jim-jam bongs
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I've got 3 level 80s and a 73 which cover every Alliance race except gnomes. Fuck gnomes.Whoompthereitis said:
I think its very possible to just casually play and not become addicted. But... I know a whole lot of people who are at the opposite end and have no business playing this game anymore because they need to get their lives in order.
In all the years I played (launch up until summer '09), I always seemed to end up being friends with fucked up people in fucked up guilds.
I mean shit like both parents playing the game while you can hear their kids screaming in the background over vent because they want some attention or something to fucking eat. I had a guild leader once who after 1 wipe in a raid, just started screaming at everyone at the top of his lungs for 10 minutes. Then the dude started crying and sobbing uncontrollably over vent.
I ran into so many people who, after you get to know them, they are really messed up and have like severe emotional issues. There's something about the game that attracts the psychotic crowd. I don't know if it gives emotionally stunted people a vicarious feeling of accomplishment or some other bullshit psychobabble reason, but there are a lot of fucked up people playing the game. You probably won't run into them though unless you're playing at the very highest levels. People who need to seriously get a life outside of playing the game for 30-40+ hours per week. I have a friend that still plays and she has 6 level 80 Alliance toons and 3 level 80 horde toons. That's just insane. She's also got 3 kids who she never pays any attention to because she's always playing WoW. I just had to get away from the craziness last year. I didn't want to turn into one of these people that leaves their kids locked in a cage all night because they can't pull themselves away from the game.
In all the years I played (launch up until summer '09), I always seemed to end up being friends with fucked up people in fucked up guilds.
I mean shit like both parents playing the game while you can hear their kids screaming in the background over vent because they want some attention or something to fucking eat. I had a guild leader once who after 1 wipe in a raid, just started screaming at everyone at the top of his lungs for 10 minutes. Then the dude started crying and sobbing uncontrollably over vent.
I ran into so many people who, after you get to know them, they are really messed up and have like severe emotional issues. There's something about the game that attracts the psychotic crowd. I don't know if it gives emotionally stunted people a vicarious feeling of accomplishment or some other bullshit psychobabble reason, but there are a lot of fucked up people playing the game. You probably won't run into them though unless you're playing at the very highest levels. People who need to seriously get a life outside of playing the game for 30-40+ hours per week. I have a friend that still plays and she has 6 level 80 Alliance toons and 3 level 80 horde toons. That's just insane. She's also got 3 kids who she never pays any attention to because she's always playing WoW. I just had to get away from the craziness last year. I didn't want to turn into one of these people that leaves their kids locked in a cage all night because they can't pull themselves away from the game.
If you get addicted and feel like you NEED to play 10+ hours a day to farm for something... just remember.. you don't.
You can reach the top playing a healthy amount.
Scenario:
Someone reaches the top 6 months to a year after the expansion releases. Then they don't play for a year to fix their shitty life. You could play a healthy amount the whole two years, but not mess with your life.
You can reach the top playing a healthy amount.
Scenario:
Someone reaches the top 6 months to a year after the expansion releases. Then they don't play for a year to fix their shitty life. You could play a healthy amount the whole two years, but not mess with your life.
Levelling is fun and all, but it's all about the endgame for me.
You probably shouldn't go as far as I did, though...
You probably shouldn't go as far as I did, though...
BigJonsson
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Its gonna be hard not to get Cataclysm when it comes out.......I really don't want to get sucked back in
I haven't played WoW since early Burning Crusade days (after a very successful raiding career as a a Paladin pre-BC), but I do read up about all the changes that they have made to the game. Overall I think that it you are pretty much starting the game at a wonderful time, and that you will have an absolute blast. And with Cataclysm around the corner, things will only get better!
I will never go back though, as I have my eyes on The Old Republic as my next MMO.
I will never go back though, as I have my eyes on The Old Republic as my next MMO.
Mr_Elysia said:
Why? Almost everything "post-vanilla" is better than vanilla itself currently. You're probably one of those with rose-tinted glasses who think the 2004 WoW was the best they did. Never mind the fact that it was a huge mess of bugs & unbalanced stuff, raids were reserved to the true "hardcore", ie : people playing 8 hours a day. And not to mention the fact it was missing a lot of the current cool features.
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Hippie cows.Zerokku said: