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[FoxMcChief]

Non-owner and won't vote.

I'm glad I passed on it though. I haven't turned my PS5 on in a while. And I don't game much on the tv, so its benefits wouldn't transfer to the Portal very well.

 

[Signalis]

Apart from Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and Dragon's Dogma 2 the PS5 Pro has been a huge disappointment for me. Wasted my money. Rest of the games all look and run like shit and UE5 games are terrible on Ps5 Pro.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Owner, gave D. Defenilty the worst console sony ever released, performance improvement around 30% in real scenarios (with some exceptionos) just not big enough to see difference and pssr is broken in way too may games and sadly in titles that ps5 base struggle most - on ue5 engine. In some games like KDC2, DS2 or Yotei improvements are nice (quality mode level with 60fps so exatly how it was advertised).

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I love it, great value for 1/3 the price of a good graphics card.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

I give it a C, bought mine for $650 shortly after launch begrudgingly because I wanted the best way to play Monster Hunter Wilds. It did deliver, and the performance enhancements for many other games like FF7 Rebirth, RE4R, etc. is excellent - especially if you're a console only player. It's not a good value proposition (especially after the US MSRP increase) and is only made so because of how expensive every other option is in comparison. It accomplished the goals set out for it and nothing more. I don't necessarily regret my purchase, and this might be an endgame console for me along with Switch 2.

 

[nial]

Z, as in Zen (4).

You know, what they should have done.

You're asking for a new console there.

 

[Artistic]

Non-owner. Haven't seen it in action outside of live streams.

I say a C.

 

[Sethbacca]

Diminishing returns make me question why have a PS6 when we can barely see a difference between PS5 and PS5pro.

we're still having to make too many concessions in baseline resolution which is resulting in blurry upscaled shit even still. The CPU uplife is really needed, as is the ML hardware for better upscaling solutions. I don't see there being much need for a Pro next gen for most people though. The difference will likely be minimal.

 

[PeteBull]

As a non owner giving it an F.
Reasons:
1) Extremly terrible value proposition, especially here in europe, even big online country wide stores were scalping blu ray drives till they reached over 250$ from private sellers(0 avaiability back then in those stores), now year after ps5pr0 after tax costs here(poland, so eu member) 917 usd, and thats discless, drive from stores costs cheapest 106 usd(but thats promotion, likely coz of BF), normal price is 109 usd, so total as u guys can see well over 1k usd even durning BF promotion week.

2) Hardware wise pssr doesnt work/isnt implemented in many games, cpu is same as in base ps5 just with mild 10% overclock, gpu even according to cerny himself is only up to 45% more performance(in reality if u check games its usually 20-35% uplift so not even that 45% claimed by cerny), and some games still got framerate/frametime trouble...

All in all we get very small improvement for relatively high price, so even tho im playstation fan back from mid 90s not a fan of ps5pr0 at all here.

 

[RoboFu]

I'd give it Good C.

Mainly for 2 reasons one the stupid cost of equivalent pc gpus these days and the small form Factor compared to a pc is a big plus.

But also the support doesn't seem to have universal expectance like the ps4 pro did.

 

[mckmas8808]

On this day, the PlayStation 5 Pro was released. How do you rate it so far?

I'm shocked that my score is the majority. Good to see when me and GAF agree.

 

[Physiognomonics]

It was really the case of "Beta tested in the future"

 

[Markio128]

B for me. I've been a tad lucky in that the majority of games that I love have had solid updates.

It could be better, but it's difficult to properly gauge how good the machine is atm and whether some of the inadequately performing games are down to the devs' lacklustre efforts, down to the hardware itself, or down to certain engines.

I don't think UE 5 games are doing it any favours, though UE 4 games seem fine in most cases, with Stellar Blade being a fine example.

I'm hopeful that the PSSR update due next year will improve some of the issues found in a few games. There's potential for a B+/A, but we won't know for up to another 12 months I reckon.

 

[rkofan87]

C. Sounds and feels like a beta stage machine.

Will make PS6 very promissing.

same and not enough Pro patches looking at you ff16.
oh I forgot one cyberpunk come on cdpr.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I liked it at first for playing old stuff that got improved, but I'm finding the differences to be pretty minor for the most part. Total waste of money in the end of for me.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Yeah definitely a strong B+ with a lot of A+ experiences i just wish the patches could be better but PSSR has a ton of teething issues. I'm hoping to push it to A+ next year. I need a DF+Sony blowout when it's upgraded to FSR4 adjacent I want to hear Cerny explain how they did it while showing games that exhibit a tangible difference.

 

[phant0m]

Very happy with it on the supported titles that I play.

Surprised at lack of 3rd party support on some pretty big titles (eg Borderlands 4) where it could have made a big difference.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

Owner C.

It's nice when you play on an HDMI 2.1 big screen OLED. The games that do support 120fps is nice.

 

[keefged4]

Meh. Only really played GT7 and Death Stranding 2, although I mainly play on PC.

I bought mine mainly for GTA VI.

 

[Pagusas]

Owner - F

Sits and collects dust. Bought it for Rebirth, than the PC version of rebirth came out and that was it for the Pro. Only reason I keep it is for GTA6.

 

[Certinty]

I've enjoyed a few games on it, most noticeably Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Yotei recently.

But given the price, I think overall it's been a waste of money.

Then again, I mostly just bought it for GTA VI anyway.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

I have absolutely no desire to upgrade so far. Seems PSSR has been having a lot of teething problems and very few publishers are actually supporting it. Differences are minor.

Even if I end up wanting one for say GTA VI, the fact that it doesnt come with a disc drive is a major turn off for me since I have a massive physical library of PS4 games. F.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Non owner, seems like a terrible device and it looks like most owners agree

I've enjoyed a few games on it, most noticeably Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Yotei recently.

But given the price, I think overall it's been a waste of money.

Then again, I mostly just bought it for GTA VI anyway.

For gta 6, buying a ps6 makes more sense given the newest gta delay

 

[Muffdraul]

I bought one at launch, IMO the improvements are there but they're subtle. We are DEEP into diminishing returns territory. It's not anyone's fault, it's the nature of technology across time.

 

[ByWatterson]

Great machine, some games have issues.

B.

 

[Exede]

Voted F for i don't even care about it with my launch PS5

 

[ShirAhava]

Non Owner F

System is a nothing burger even more so than the PS4 Pro was

My friend bought one for GTA 6 and his legit pissed about the delay he tried to sell it to me I laughed in my native language of Vita

 

[asdasdasdbb]

You're asking for a new console there.

They could have done something like the PS4 Pro, which had a 40% higher CPU clock at least.

 

[Durin]

Just seems like a stop-gap console where Sony is playing catch-up to other upscalers, but at least can be improved over time, and will probably lead to some good things for the next console.

I do hope this generation lasts a bit longer though, because the stagnation in hardware makes me question releasing anything before 2028.

 

[nial]

They could have done something like the PS4 Pro, which had a 40% higher CPU clock at least.

That's what PS5 Pro did as well, just with a smaller increase.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

That's what PS5 Pro did as well, just with a smaller increase.

So it's not what they did…

 

[R6Rider]

Mine's been great, but I'll give it a B due to not all games using it effectively (plus they kept the gloss...).

Some of the best boosts have been in PSVR2 games.

 

[nial]

So it's not what they did…

Using the same CPU architecture, but with higher clock speed? Yes, they did.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Using the same CPU architecture, but with higher clock speed? Yes, they did.

He said they should have done a 40% increase

You said they did, just a smaller increase…then that's not the same. 40% = 40%

You are being incoherent my dude

 

[nial]

He said they have done a 40% increase

You said they did, just a smaller increase

You are being incoherent my dude

I mean, when you say "something like", it's not exactly weird to take it as using the same CPU, but higher clocked. Being the exact same amount or not is not that important, it's not like we're seeing hugely different scenarios here.

 

[FalconPunch]

Personally speaking, I don't think non-owners should be allowed to vote. How can you grade something you haven't used or experienced? It's quite weird. It's like writing a review for a product you've merely heard about.

 

[MacReady13]

I voted C. When it gets things right, it is a very nice machine capable of making PC gamers wish they'd spent less for hardware.

When it goes wrong though, boy oh boy it looks awful. That shimmer is a definite eye sore.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I mean, when you say "something like", it's not exactly weird to take it as using the same CPU, but higher clocked. Being the exact same amount or not is not that important, it's not like we're seeing hugely different scenarios here.

It doesn't matter if it's important or not, it's not the same

His whole point was that the increase should have been much more significant. You responded basically saying it was the same, but not as significant

We understand the ps5 pro is faster than the ps5, no one is arguing that dude. This isn't worth talking about as it's a strawman. No one is claiming the ps5 pro is slower than the ps5

What people are arguing is that the increase should have been as significant as it was in the past. Which it isn't. Period.

 

[hinch7]

Not going to vote as a non owner.. but its seems like more of rather expensive beta product and test for PS6. I guess you get things like PSSR, which in itself is a mixed bag when it comes to results and implementation. At least for the most part its an improvement on FSR 2/3 and most TAA solutions; which are just awful. For PS only gamers I can see that most are probably happy with their upgrades. But meh tbh personally, from a tech POV where consoles are still largely lagging behind.

 

[nial]

It doesn't matter if it's important or not, it's not the same

His whole point was that the increase should have been much more significant. You responded basically saying it was the same, but not as significant

We understand the ps5 pro is faster than the ps5, no one is arguing that dude. This isn't worth talking about as it's a strawman. No one is claiming the ps5 pro is slower than the ps5

What people are arguing is that the increase should have been as significant as it was in the past. Which it isn't. Period.

His initial point was that it should have used Zen 4 instead of Zen 2. I said that such thing would require a new console for. He then said that they could have done something like PS4 Pro having a higher clocked CPU (40% in this case, which isn't true btw, it's actually 33%), and I responded that the PS5 Pro did the same. That's literally it, you are spending too much energy on this for no reason, when not even A asdasdasdbb cares about it.

As for bolded, are you sure I'm the one responding to a strawman?

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

His initial point was that it should have used Zen 4 instead of Zen 2. I said that such thing would require a new console for. He then said that they could have done something like PS4 Pro having a higher clocked CPU (40% in this case, which isn't true btw, it's actually 33%), and I responded that the PS5 Pro did the same. That's literally it, you are spending too much energy on this for no reason, when not even A asdasdasdbb cares about it.

As for bolded, are you sure I'm the one responding to a strawman?

Huh? I'm not inventing a strawman. Literally read this page dude people who own it are complaining about how insignificant the improvement is. It's on this very page that we are posting on.

You're trying to draw parallels to past PlayStation, which don't exist other than pro models are generally faster.

Here is a simpler way to put it: do you agree that the improvement between PS5 and PS5 Pro is much less significant than in the past? If your answer is yes, we're in agreement

 

[Calverz]

Wont answer as a non owner

 

[MiguelItUp]

Owner C, but honestly I feel like I should probably rate it lower. I wish there was more that made me want to turn it on and use it, but there really hasn't been any exclusives. Some of the best experiences for me have all been multiplatform, and if I can get it cheaper on PC it's kind of a no brainer for me.

 

[Chris FOM]

it's somewhere around a B- and a C+ in my book. The boost mode is helpful even on non-Pro optimized games (and transformative in some cases, like the ray traced modes for the RE Engine Resident Evil games). 40% isn't generational, but it's enough to make previously marginal modes usable and even desirable.

When it comes to Pro-enhanced titles when it works it's exactly what it promises: quality mode graphics at performance mode frame rates. All of Insomniac's games, Horizon Forbidden West, FF7 Rebirth, etc. look amazing but play much better at 60 FPS. And when you get into some of the more ambitious efforts, like the 40 FPS AC Shadows it's even better. Between these and the boost to normal games it's a solid B+ and maybe even an A- diminishing returns sure, but a solid and meaningful improvement over base PS5 and an interesting look ahead at the PS6 as a bonus.

But PSSR simply wasn't ready. There are too many games, especially (but not only) UE5 titles that not only aren't improved they look significantly WORSE than the base PS5 version, and with no option to even revert to base modes with the Pro boost. That should never happen, and it's inexcusable. And it's a common enough issue that it really does drag the entire thing down quite a bit.

 

[Tqaulity]

Owner and voted B!

Of course it's not perfect:

• Many games don't take advantage of the hardware advancements (i.e. RT perf and PSSR)
• Still a number of major titles with no official PS5 PRO support
• PSSR is hit or miss with many 3rd party games with obvious visual issues that should have never shipped
• Raw GPU perf boost is limited by lack of bandwidth (main reason for raw perf boost being ~30-40% as opposed to the theoretical 60-70%)

That said, I still think that the pros outweigh the cons and many of the issues are overblown in the public. For those who actually own it and play it on a high end large screen TV with 120hz support and VRR, the improvements range from "good" to "transformative". To me, it's still a better improvement than the PS4 PRO was which basically got relegated to just a resolution bump (with no other graphical settings improvement) from 1080p-~1440p and same 30fps in the vast majority of games. In most cases, PSSR makes a noticeable improvement and if you actually see it in person in games that have reasonable integrations (i.e. Space Marine 2, FFVII Rebirth, Black Myth Wukong, Demons Souls, Kingdom Come D2 etc.) you'll never want to see FSR or TAA on console again.

So overall, it's a nice improvement and I play it almost every day. Is it a necessary upgrade? Absolutely not...but if you can afford, I think it's a worthwhile one. Can't wait to see what the PSSR 2.0 update will bring to the table. If they can fix the main IQ issues with PSSR (shimmering around foliage, heavy RT noise, and white halos around some objects) and get something closer to FSR4, we'll be in for a real treat

 

[Quasicat]

My friend has a Pro and I have a Slim, when both run on the same LG screen…I can't tell the difference. He is more excited about the larger storage and better WiFi, but I be a 4TB ssd in mine and am hardwired to my router. I couldn't justify the price on that one.

 

[nial]

Huh? I'm not inventing a strawman.

You're implying that I'm acting as if people are calling it slower than base PS5. I'm not, I just pointed out that, like PS4 Pro, it also has a higher clock speed despite not changing the CPU architecture.

Literally read this page dude people who own it are complaining about how insignificant the improvement is. It's on this very page that we are posting on.

So? What does that have to do with, specifically, my comments here?

You're trying to draw parallels to past PlayStation, which don't exist other than pro models are generally faster.

?????????????? What are you even saying, lol. What parallels I'm even drawing other than comparing it to the PS4 Pro situation of not having a generational CPU upgrade outside of being higher clocked.

Here is a simpler way to put it: do you agree that the improvement between PS5 and PS5 Pro is much less significant than in the past? If your answer is yes, we're in agreement

It's not a simpler way to put it because this is irrelevant to what I was previously talking about, but sure. Knowing that my only point of comparison is the PS4 Pro, I don't think I'd call it 'much less significant'. It's pretty in line with it, IMO.
It all comes down to how developers approach the hardware, and you already have standout examples like Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.

 

[Illyria]

This thread reinforced my decision to not buy it. I'll put the $ towards ps6.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

It's not a simpler way to put it because this is irrelevant to what I was previously talking about, but sure. Knowing that my only point of comparison is the PS4 Pro, I don't think I'd call it 'much less significant'. It's pretty in line with it, IMO.
It all comes down to how developers approach the hardware, and you already have standout examples like Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.

So all these people complaining about the marginal difference just needs to get their eyes checked? If you think the difference between PS5 and PS5 pro is the same as previous gens improvements I just don't know what to tell you other than I find comfort in the fact that most people in this thread seem to agree with me and disagree with you

As for your other points I don't even know what you're going off about, but it's ridiculous for you to say that performance is irrelevant in a thread about whether the PS5 pro is worth picking up

 

[Kenneth Haight]

It's a better PS5, I like it.

I need some more games to show off that I'm better than my friends with a base PS5 though.