Himynameischris
Member
It can be something as simple as a level unlock key, I know that new Vita game Star Drone has a 99 cent unlockable that lets you skip any level.
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PlayStation Mobile Developer Program (Vita & Android)
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It can be something as simple as a level unlock key, I know that new Vita game Star Drone has a 99 cent unlockable that lets you skip any level.
Feature Additions Planned for the Future
The following features and services will be added by the future version upgrade of SDK.
The service to distribute the created PS Suite applications in PlayStation(R)Store.
Development environment using Visual Studio
Support for programming languages other than C#
Support for model data output from 3D tools other than Maya
Low level audio API
Camera
Position information
Video playback
API for network services
DRM(Digital rights management) and packaging support
Believe!
It's very sweet - I'm currently taking a brief look at the provided samples and documentation and development tools, so far seems very promising.
DukeTogo1300
Member
I'm looking forward to an ePub reader too. I wonder how difficult that would be to make.
There is a RAM limitation no? Is it 96 MB? The Suite is running virtually as well right?
StoppedInTracks
Member
Ok but can you just code NES emu and upload it? Or is there Sony-based certification like App Store?
Maastricht
Member
It's the one example you (according to the docs) can't run it on Vita though ... Take that Vita
Bomber Bob
Banned
Meh I have to get on my win pc.
Dunno what the spec of the virtual machine is, but since the API exposes MSAA modes I have to assume it's allowed
It runs fine on my PC too. I'm guessing some of the other graphicscontext parameters I'm passing are causing a conflict on Vita or something...It's the one example you (according to the docs) can't run it on Vita though ... Take that Vita
PSP wins again.
Dunno what the spec of the virtual machine is, but since the API exposes MSAA modes I have to assume it's allowed
PSP wins again.
Cool. In this situation, is there documentation/support forums that you can go to get answers and help?
Yeah, the docs are pretty good, and there is a forum open now here. But I might tinker a bit more before reaching out, I'm probably doing something silly...
michaelius
Banned
If you belive that point of homebrew is running custom apps on Vita then yes
But majority of "homebrew" fans from PS3 and PSP won't be too happy.
edit: since i can't download it now - does it include some default models you could use in apps ?
lol Same here, but I installed the Suite to give it a shot.I don't understand a thing what you guys are saying but somehow it looks fun
Now, where to start? Where can I find that Flight demo, for instance?
If you have the Suite Studio open, go to File -> Open.
Then navigate to the Pss folder in public documents folder. On my machine that's C:\Users\Public\Documents\Pss
Then go to sample\demo\FlightDemo and click on the FlightDemo.sln file, and then Open.
That'll open that sample. To run it on your PC, go to Run -> Run With -> Playstation Suite Simulator.
To run on your Vita you need to download the Suite Dev app on to your Vita, open it, connect your Vita to your PC, and then there should be an option to run on Vita...you might have to twiddle with a drop-down menu first...
If you belive that point of homebrew is running custom apps on Vita then yes
But majority of "homebrew" fans from PS3 and PSP won't be too happy.
edit: since i can't download it now - does it include some default models you could use in apps ?
Please tell us why.
The only language I am sort of able to program in! Woooooo! Lets see whether I can get anything to work
Hunter-Zero
Member
Will try this when i go back home today
Why would you do that?
Member
I haven't downloaded it yet, but how's the performance of the PC simulator? Is it fast? Or is it really slow, like, say, the Android emulator?
Most people enjoy homebrew for one or more of the following:
- tech demos/games/etc that really take advantage of the system
- OS hacks and customizations
- Ports of licensed games like Doom, Quake, Tyrian, TTD, Duke3D...
- IOS/ROM backup loading
- Emulators*
- Piracy
The PS Suite most likely won't allow for any of that.
Plus, you're limited to the SDK... As an example, right now you can't write raw audio to the buffer, and you're only limited to a certain set of audio formats. This means music games and music in mod/xm format is out of the question right now.
With homebrew, there are no limits.
*Emulation is possible, but SNES, Genesis, or higher may not emulate well since it's not native code. And even if they did, who's to say Sony will allow them on the PS Suite?
Most people enjoy homebrew for one or more of the following:
- tech demos/games/etc that really take advantage of the system
- OS hacks and customizations
- Ports of licensed games like Doom, Quake, Tyrian, TTD, Duke3D...
- IOS/ROM backup loading
- Emulators*
- Piracy
The PS Suite most likely won't allow for any of that.
Plus, you're limited to the SDK... As an example, right now you can't write raw audio to the buffer, and you're only limited to a certain set of audio formats. This means music games and music in mod/xm format is out of the question right now.
With homebrew, there are no limits.
*Emulation is possible, but SNES, Genesis, or higher may not emulate well since it's not native code. And even if they did, who's to say Sony will allow them on the PS Suite?
Why not games?
Only tried with a few of the projects, but seems fine. In the FlightDemo I get about the same ms per frame as the Vita. (Dunno if that's because the framerate is locked in that particular demo or if the performance exposed by the VM is just THAT consistent across devices).
Thank you kind sir :3
Emulators would make the Vita the ultimate game machine. If there is a way to let them happen without risking the integrity of the console, Sony could let that happen after all. I would do it if i were them! Mame on that screen ? OMG
Suite is potentially the most interesting thing to come out of Sony for a very long time. Now the SDK is out (even if it's 'beta') Sony need to start spreading the word and finding a way to convince talented coders to use it. Hopefully they are going to make a bit of noise about it at E3 and explain where they see this going. Currently I don't think the tech/gaming press really understand what it is.
That's just wishful thinking... it's impossible to Sony allow emulators on the machine...
Sounds exactly like the super popular HBL for PSP.
Lighthouse
Member
Let this be the start of something good for the Vita.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
And if you were them and did it, I hope you enjoy the insides of court rooms and losing money out the ass to legal fee's. The PSP exists. Theres lots of them, for cheap, and fulfils most if not all of the usual homebrew emu desires.
Exciting stuff this, hopefully it will spawn some quality stuff. Its sad however to know this wont stop the entitled hackers of the world from "needing" their emu's, iso's, and so forth. Worse still, I hope theres no vulnerability found in the Suite stuff that allows for hacking to occur, forever cementing the "they will always bite the hand that feeds" mentality.
michaelius
Banned
Because for every one who wants to run custom apps there are 19 more who want to run games without paying for them.
Let's be serious here - we know what's the official excuse list for homebrew but it's all about piracy.
Why would you do that?
Member
Of course homebrew games, too. But IMO there are few good original homebrew games that makes the hacking process worth it. Some exceptions are XBMC and Colors! DS, both of which wouldn't be possible under a similar SDK situation.
Thanks, good to hear. Maybe I won't need to get a Vita so soon after all.
The Homebrew Launcher runs native code (making high end emulators and cool tech demo stuff feasible) but won't allow you to enter kernel mode (for OS hacks, loaders, etc).
Yeah, because GAF (where you get banned for admitting to being a pirate) is a fair cross section of people who want homebrew.
You don't get it. It's about the rules here. People get banned for the things he said.
michaelius
Banned
lol what ?
Yeah, don't believe me. Go on.
michaelius
Banned
Show me which TOS point i broken.
It isn't listed in the TOS like many of the banned gifs and memes. But yeah, I just tried to warn you. Do what you want.
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Beef Stallmer
Banned
I don't think this will be really popular, as many know, the most used "homebrew" is the one were you play the game without actually having it in your possession. This way you cannot damage or lose an original game, amirite?
The Vita already allows for this; you can get the games on PSN.
The Vita already allows for this; you can get the games on PSN.
People get banned on GAF for implying homebrew can only be used for piracy. kamorra was just trying to bait you and derailing the topic.