The Elite
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I recall hearing it wasn't being live streamed. If there are going to be date and price announcements I would have assumed they would stream it.
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Playstation VR GDC Presentation: March 15th
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I recall hearing it wasn't being live streamed. If there are going to be date and price announcements I would have assumed they would stream it.
They prob have been invited right? I guess they should know that info
Im kinda worried about this now
The Elite
BOSS
They are not going to give people a camera, move and games for $40 more.
PulseONE
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Well I think its more or less guaranteed that they'll be announcing price and dates so...I think theres a good chance they'll stream it
I don't think we'll get price anyway... that's usually more of a E3 thing. Did PS Move get a price at its GDC showcase?
It's really not.
No idea, it was a reply to someone on twitter...
@VRFocus said:
Nope, market details came at E3, GDC was just the reveal.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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Now makes the most sense for announcing a price, if indeed they do still plan to release in H1.
$399 Headset only
$499 Combo (Headset, Camera, 2x Move, maybe game?).
I don't understand why some people seem to think this thing is going to be anything less than $399. I've always thought it would be "The price of a console". Yes the PS4 is cheaper than it was but technically they could charge $599 and it would be the "Price of a console" just not a current one.
These VR units are EXPENSIVE to R+D, create, test, reiterate and market, etc. Sony doesn't want to sell at a loss, they don't want to break even either.
The Elite
BOSS
I am curious at what price they will be selling extra Move controllers when they are reintroduced to the market. I kind of expect a redesign on them and maybe a price drop to $29.99.
I can see this, tweaking the ergonomics, switching out the mini usb port for a micro one and renaming start and select to share and options. Don't expect a price drop though if there is a new model, current moves effectively are price dropped.
Simple, if you pay attention to what is known.
Here is a list of all the points which -cumulated- mean a $299 price point for the headset alone is possible (and even likely imo)
- Sony is a hardware manufacturer heavily invested in Oled screens, lenses, sensors (gyro...) and base materials (plastics, electronic components, etc)
- Sony owns the platform on which the PSVR is exclusive, thus getting a cut on all software sold for it.
- Sony (Shu Yoshida) has said it will be priced to sell at cost or even a small loss*
- The spec is lesser and less costly than its competitor, let's take the Rift for comparison. The Rift has 2x Oled screens of higher resolution (1200p vs 1080p), while the PSVR has 1 split between both eyes.
- The Rift is $599 for a bundle which includes a controller, a camera/ sensor, a remote, a headphone (built in), and 2 games (Eve Valkyrie amongst them)
- The external box for PSVR only splits the HDMI signal and unbends it, and deals with 3d audio, with off the shelf component, thus very unlikely to be pricey at all.
* http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/11/sony_not_looking_to_profit_with_playstation_vr_hardware
I see the current price drops at (some US) retailers to mean the retailers are trying to clear stock. I'm not sure the move is even in production anymore (anyone know for sure?), and in Sweden, I can only find 1 retailer that seems to still have stock left, and it's a retailer I've never heard of before.
The Elite
BOSS
It's assumption. I do think it's going to happen though. Just a feeling.
Edit: Also, talk from Playstation execs in the above post doesn't hurt.
You make valid points, however we don't know the price point of the hardware. OLED is still new and expensive to create. The Article does state there is cross talk (Sony (Shu Yoshida) has said it will be priced to sell at cost or even a small loss) so you need to take BOTH into account per the article "Of course, on the surface this appears to contrast with comments made by SCE president Andrew House, who seemed to indicate that the headset would cost the same as a new console."
I could see them possibly coming in at $399 for everything but I don't see this thing being sub $350 at the cheapest.
It's all conjecture as all specifics are not currently known. We'll see when we see. There will obviously be multiple price points. I wonder if the bundle w/ a ps4 will make an appearance and if so will it actually be a deal?
Jerm411
Member
Not to mention they've already gone on record as saying it'll be "priced like a platform (aka console)"...no console on the market is $499 or higher.
It has to be $349-$399...
travisbickle
Member
I think they may reveal a price and make it available for preorder. Seems to have worked for the other VR headsets.
Sephiroth_VII
Member
No one has ever said that it will be priced like a new console though. The quote was about them treating PSVR like a while new platform, rather than an accessory, in how they approach it and developers. Pricing wasn't specifically addressed, but people latched on to it as a pricing comment for some reason.
pharmboy044
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If the rumor of this being delayed to the fall is true then I agree with you but if it is still launching in June, there is no way they announce a price two weeks prior to release.
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I was hoping this would've released before E3. Sony did say the first half of the year.
I wasn't trying to insulate they did, I was saying MY conjecture was based on that. That quote was my response to another post stating there was cross talk by 2 high ranking individuals within Sony about price.
Nightengale
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Which is a line they haven't reiterated at all this year.
Ninja Sharingan
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I think they have to. If they don't release the price at this event it's a bit of a bad a move
I have a friend who owns a videogame shop which has a partnership (franchise) with a european videogame distribution company and, talking with a guy in the sales department, he told him playstation vr would probably release in ocotober with a price ranging from 399 to 449 euros as sony is still undecided on the final price.
Now take it with a grain of salt, as i have never seen this guy and don't know if he's reliable or not, but i feel the price and release date could be true.
Only one day to find out
Now take it with a grain of salt, as i have never seen this guy and don't know if he's reliable or not, but i feel the price and release date could be true.
Only one day to find out
Crimson_Gold
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Why is that? Since it's looking like Q3 launch, E3 provides more than enough time for a price announcement
The Elite
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°°ToMmY°°;198308479 said:I have a friend who owns a videogame shop which has a partnership (franchise) with a european videogame distribution company and, talking with a guy in the sales department, he told him playstation vr would probably release in ocotober with a price ranging from 399 to 449 euros as sony is still undecided on the final price.
Now take it with a grain of salt, as i have never seen this guy and don't know if he's reliable or not, but i feel the price and release date could be true.
Only one day to find out
At that point he might as well be Uncle Nintendo.
I'd say it's looking a lot more likely now that it's sticking to first half of the year launch. Seems like this is a PSVR blowout tomorrow. Price, release date, people being able to pre-order it officially, games, how the OS will work etc. Seems that's what's being teased, not just yet another presentation with a few more facts and finishing on a "yet more will be revealed later" note.
I know Driveclub seems like it will be officially shown off, the game director gave a massive hint about that happening. Media Molecule are going to be there too so maybe more official confirmation on that front too... I just see us getting everything.
Does anyone know who's actually taking the presentation. If Shawn Layden or Andrew House are involved then we're definitely getting a price!
This.
That quote has been debated for ages now, when it was in a context of separating price expectations from a device-like level pricing (controllers/ Camera).
They had to manage expectations and that was way before the Rift and Vive price announcements which in fact will probably make it "easier" for Sony to come in as a "VR for the masses savior".
Their concern is different from Occulus and HTC for this though. Their goal is the mass market (as much as a VR helmet can pretend to anyway) and act as a sort of a Home VR gateway (as opposed to the mobile versions which are already marred with toy-like cheap versions).
Roger that!
Mr. Giggles
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Lmfao
I thought there was some article recently with an interview with Richard Marks, in which the article (not Marks directly, mind) mentioned it would be coming in the second half.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. And if we heard about that new launch window at GDC, with solid date and price details at E3.
Jerm411
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Thanks for all the replies, guess I just assumed E3 would be the default venue for them to announce a price and release date but I certainly won't complain if we get the information sooner rather than later.
I think they should announce price and a date tomorrow, I'd go with September...first off, you give the general public plenty of time (6 months) to fully digest what it is and what it does, time to pre-order and pay it off, and can always come at E3 with a games blowout.
Also with a release in September, it gives it 2 months in the wild where there could be a great amount of buzz growing around it to where it becomes an impulse Black Friday buy for a lot of people or maybe it's just *the* thing to have come BF and XMas.
I'm probably totally wrong lol....
Papacheeks
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Do you understand that GDC is for developers right?
It's not something where a lot get's announced, let alone retail price be announced for a product.
It's not like Pax, or E3, or even TGS.
It's specifically for developers to network try out different tech, engines, put in their resumes, and also get some recognition for work they've done.
Nightengale
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Hmm, this presentation specifically mentioned that it was a press-invite-only event...
=P
The Elite
BOSS
That's true but this seems to be a showcase for press and not for developers. Oculus had their press event yesterday as well.
Dragonslayer_023
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Please make it 300-400 and I'll pre-order right away.
Wrong. Priced like a platform does not mean console. It means priced like a platform. It's like people forgot how Sony priced the Vita when everyone on GAF was swearing up and down it would be *gasp* $349-399 and it ended up being $249-299 (depending on which model you got). This isn't their first rodeo in releasing new hardware.
This would have been a direct reference to that Gamestop interview.
Here's the deal, the last time Sony referred to a 1st half 2016 release was in November last year. I'm not sure what their line was at PSX, I cant find any interviews directly quoting it but certainly at CES in January the line was "later this year" which doesn't really negate the argument either way.
Call me crazy, but I feel like this thing needs to be under $300 or else it's DOA.
Otherwise, I just can't see too much casual adoption if it costs as much as a console. And I can't see it having a high enough adoption rate, to justify invest in making software for it without the casual crowd.
I really want VR to succeed, and given how much it costs to get into Oculus gaming, I feel like everything is riding on Sony at the moment.
Fingers crossed.
Otherwise, I just can't see too much casual adoption if it costs as much as a console. And I can't see it having a high enough adoption rate, to justify invest in making software for it without the casual crowd.
I really want VR to succeed, and given how much it costs to get into Oculus gaming, I feel like everything is riding on Sony at the moment.
Fingers crossed.