LowParry
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Launches are always half assed. I'm not getting a PS4 till next year anyway. My PS3 and PC keep me good company
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PlayStation4 FW 1.5 details
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Launches are always half assed. I'm not getting a PS4 till next year anyway. My PS3 and PC keep me good company
Shpeshal_Ed
Banned
You need that update to basically do anything at all?
Wow
Both these console were clearly destined for next year.
Wow
Both these console were clearly destined for next year.
Oppo
Member
Why do people think this is not par for the course in 2013/4?
Of course they're gonna take the extra 3 months to work on the OS. C'mon now. Hardly unexpected.
As for the Blu-ray activation thing, I still maintain that it's has to do with licensing-per box-costs, as the way WMV worked on PS3.
I also think the BG music thing is just being over-parsed.
The suspend/resume thing is what worries me. But not the rest.
Of course they're gonna take the extra 3 months to work on the OS. C'mon now. Hardly unexpected.
As for the Blu-ray activation thing, I still maintain that it's has to do with licensing-per box-costs, as the way WMV worked on PS3.
I also think the BG music thing is just being over-parsed.
The suspend/resume thing is what worries me. But not the rest.
Man, all three next-gen consoles have huge Day 1 updates that add important features to the console. At least in the case of the PS4 and Wii U the updates aren't absolutely required to just play a game, but this still sets a bad precedent for releasing a console before it was totally ready (especially for the XBONE). I wonder if MS or Sony will be suggesting that people should unbox their console and update it before wrapping it up as a Christmas gift like Nintendo did.
Goodacre0081
Member
a limited music service that you need a sub to use.
Honestly, even though it's an inconvenience for us, we shouldn't be rejecting it on these terms. It doesn't mean that.
For the gamer, it is actually best this way. It means they will spend extra months working and polishing all the different OS features, and aren't bound by when they start mass producing the units themselves. That's a huge boon. For launch systems, the deadlines are always remarkably tight. Sony started planning for the PS4 in late 2007 and have not stopped since, and yet we still require the patch. It's not about not being ready, it's about making sure it works as best as it reasonably can. And that means tweaking until the latest possible moment (and it also is why we continually get patches upgrading these OS's throughout the lifespans of the systems, because you can never have everything on day one. There is always something more you can add).
Same for Microsoft Xbox One and its patch. Although the patch that's coming because the 180s is unique (and does indeed suck), the regular OS upgrades and such that will be in their patch are par for course. It should be seen as a way to deliver us the best possible experience on day one
How in the world do people not expect there to be first day firmware updates? Do people not actually want the best experience possible?
These console have been in production for months, do you really think they are going to finalise every aspect of the OS, features etc., the day the first machine rolls off the production line? It makes far more sense to spend 2-3 months fine tuning the software, with the end user having the 'inconvenience' of a 5 minute download.
These console have been in production for months, do you really think they are going to finalise every aspect of the OS, features etc., the day the first machine rolls off the production line? It makes far more sense to spend 2-3 months fine tuning the software, with the end user having the 'inconvenience' of a 5 minute download.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Am I the only one that's completely fine with and even expected this? We're in the future. This is how it is now.
Im witcha homey
hippobloated
Banned
I'm fine with it. Works better this way.
KennyLinder
Member
No fucks given here apart from Sleep/Resume, that would be a really handy and beneficial feature. We should press the usual channels to try and get an update on when that's coming. I just hope all games will support it and they won't require retroactive patches.
super-famicom
Member
When I went to bed this thread did not exist. I wake up, and it's at 21 pages. GAF moves fast.
Edit- I also don't mind having to download this. If it allows me to play Shadow Fall on my Vita, that's a plus in my book.
Edit- I also don't mind having to download this. If it allows me to play Shadow Fall on my Vita, that's a plus in my book.
ridethepiggy
Banned
Pretty much. I am shocked that so many are shocked that they will need a day one update for many of the features.
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
Hahah that'd be a system launch done right. I tip my hat to you sir.
Hopefully the Music Unlimited functionality isn't the only method to play music in the background. I'm assuming that the feature point is just poorly worded and that the feature has just been added to the standard ability to play music off of the hard disk or USB media.
Well, you have to figure that 1.0 was for devs. Do you really want devs wasting time watching bluray movies? Agreed about suspend/resume. It's ridiculous that that's not a basic feature built into 1.0.
Pop
Member
I'm cool with it.
hellmonkey
Member
I am 100% fine with a day 1 patch. The only thing chapping my balls is the potential for music unlimited requiring a sub for playing back music that's on my HDD. When I freaked out earlier, I didn't think that it could just be an app like iTunes or Google Music that can play any music, but the sub is extra and allows for more content. If that is the case, then I am happy.
Sony haven't been dicks about anything so far, so I don't think that would mess this up. I am cautiously optimistic, for now.
As far as a I know Music Unlimited is like Spotify / Pandora it has nothing to do with the music you have on your hdd. At least that show the PS3 version worked.
CambriaRising
Member
That's fine. That's not even close to being as offensive as some people here seem to want to paint it.
uuaschbaer
Banned
You need to connect to the internet to play blu-rays? Wtf is wrong with these people? No.
A bit off topic, but I hope the PS4 will stay at 1080p and scale the image if it's not natively rendering full hd. Hate that the PS3 keeps switching to 720p, looks awful when gaming on a monitor.
Do we have any info on this?
Hopefully it's not the new cross-game chat.
You can change that in the PS3 settings btw, in the video connection settings just uncheck all the boxes except 1080p.
Killing_Joke
Member
No suspend/resume mode is shit. Hopefully they add it soon.
kamakazi_30
Banned
Hello Smithers. You are quite good at turning me on.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Can't have people like him mucking up Sony threads can we?
Guileless
Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Trying to imagine my parents having to do that with my NES circa 1990....oh man. Those were simpler times.
uncharted86
Member
Not a perfect solution, because you'll be playing in fucking 540p SD resolution in PS3 games not supporting 720p -> 1080p upscale, and there's quite a few of those games.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I'm surprised remote play is there day one. It sucks the suspend feature isn't there. But it seems for every console has features that don't show up.
The day one patch isn't a big deal for me, and I highly doubt MU is the only way to listen to custom music on the console. Asking the OS to be ready at essentially E3 for any of these consoles is really unrealistic. They aren't like the PS2 where it had only 3 features.
The day one patch isn't a big deal for me, and I highly doubt MU is the only way to listen to custom music on the console. Asking the OS to be ready at essentially E3 for any of these consoles is really unrealistic. They aren't like the PS2 where it had only 3 features.
Then u get to play at sd resolution. Can't believe this was never fixed all these years
A lot of this is due to manufacturing starting long before the OS is done, right? At 300 MB I'm not to angry about it. It took a year for Nintendo to smooth out the Wii U's kinks. I think Sony and Microsoft will polish a bit faster than that.
If you are going to be an early adopter this is the price you pay in being a beta tester.
If you are going to be an early adopter this is the price you pay in being a beta tester.
uncharted86
Member
Could be that Sony is paying blu-ray license fee per console, so they only want to pay for the actual number of PS4's that is being used to watch movies.
Yeah. I guess they've reached the "final" version, so we should start seeing some videos of the UI quite soon.
Doesn't bother me at all. I bought a WiiU on launch and lived to tell the tale, so a 300mb patch is nothing.
ThankeeSai
Member
Sorry if this has already been asked, but if you can upload videos to facebook, does this mean I can save them from facebook to my pc and then upload them to youtube?
FranXico
Member
You should supposedly be able to save up to 15 minutes of gameplay to a video file and just copy it your PC. That is simpler than uploading, downloading and then uploading again.
sechsterangriff
Member
I'm just glad that you don't need the new firmware to play games. I know the chances are low but in case my ISP craps out or the patch servers get hammered I'm still able to play. That's what's important to me. Everything else I can wait for.
Hopefully this new firmware has been ready for some time and is being included in this first wave of games already being pressed and this becomes a non-issue.
Regarding the thing about Music Unlimited, I bet the PS4 probably already allows for custom soundtracks. The patch just probably makes it possible to also use your Music Unlimited music as custom soundtracks.
Hopefully this new firmware has been ready for some time and is being included in this first wave of games already being pressed and this becomes a non-issue.
Regarding the thing about Music Unlimited, I bet the PS4 probably already allows for custom soundtracks. The patch just probably makes it possible to also use your Music Unlimited music as custom soundtracks.
This, but when the OP talks about enabling features, it came out poorly.
Suspend is a bigger deal, but not THAT big a deal. I'll change my mind if it's the new year and we're still talking about this as a future feature.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
consoles began being manufactured a few months ago, right?
so how are they supposed to make sure all of those have all of the final OS and app builds on them that have been finalized this month? magically zap the consoles with the new firmware versions?
no. they put it all in a day one patch that gets pushed out immediately when you get online.
consoles being manufactured during Q4 this year are likely to come with 1.5 baked right in. this isn't a big deal guys, come on. be happy the console will function at all unlike the xbone that requires that DRM-stripping patch- which was announced long ago, so makes you wonder how they couldn't put that in before manufacturing? unless they started way earlier?
so how are they supposed to make sure all of those have all of the final OS and app builds on them that have been finalized this month? magically zap the consoles with the new firmware versions?
no. they put it all in a day one patch that gets pushed out immediately when you get online.
consoles being manufactured during Q4 this year are likely to come with 1.5 baked right in. this isn't a big deal guys, come on. be happy the console will function at all unlike the xbone that requires that DRM-stripping patch- which was announced long ago, so makes you wonder how they couldn't put that in before manufacturing? unless they started way earlier?
Hidden One
Member
300 MB! GREAT now I gotta wait an extra 3 mins before I can login!
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