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wenis said:
bands jump sharks? or did their sound just change?

Well yknow tastes are different for everyone - but basically when you felt (subjective, I know) a band went from great to not great at all.

Sounds can change and bands can evolve and that's not the problem - some bands do it and it worked with me, some did and it didn't mesh well, and more. Just kind of exploring those thoughts.
 
BrLvgThrChmstry said:
Sorry, a thousand times NOT this. I'd say If not now, when? is the point in which they jumped, anything before? purely subjective. Yeah, I said it. This is one of many bands who pride themselves on evolving/changing their sound. Whether you like or not, is up to you. A Crow Left of the Murder > whichever album you fucking like. Oh, and as a long time fan of their music. Anything S.C.I.E.N.C.E below sucks. Ohhhhh. yeah I said it again! (I do like science, but its not nearly as good as folks make it out to be)


I'm with you 100%.
 
jaxword said:


...thats 3 strikes on one page, your comprehension needs leveling up. First off thats the remix of the catalyst and seriously why would you hand pick those songs, knowing that every single person on this board has probably heard the other songs they've put out like i dunno that shit we keep hearing when a 1b dollar grossing transformers movie comes out. Thats beyond stretching it buddy. This could fit right in on their first 2 albums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIpr4_mFVM

but i guess its not christian rock enough...
 
BrLvgThrChmstry said:
Sorry, a thousand times NOT this. I'd say If not now, when? is the point in which they jumped, anything before? purely subjective. Yeah, I said it. This is one of many bands who pride themselves on evolving/changing their sound with each album. Whether you like or not, is up to you. A Crow Left of the Murder > whichever album you fucking like. Oh, and as a long time fan of their music. Anything S.C.I.E.N.C.E and below sucks. Ohhhhh. yeah I said it again! (I do like science, but its not nearly as good as folks make it out to be)

I agree with this 100%

Jasoco said:
Green Day after Dookie. You know, when they decided that they were a big deal and made everyone think they needed to be hyped up every time an album came out.

Agree with this as well.
 
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one of the most disappointing albums ever. not holding out hope that muse will ever return to making good music. listen to this bullshit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTuKd2lTo4

am i listening to muse or aaliyah? fucking horrible. the rest of the album is shit too. there are a couple good songs (literally, a couple), and the rest range from mediocre to absolute shit
 
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If you cut out the shit from both albums and released it as 1 record then it would have been great. There was just so much crap in both albums though.

The Axl ballads were great but I'll remember these albums as the time when Axl disapperred up his own ass, never to be found again.
 
Clegg said:
If you cut out the shit from both albums and released it as 1 record then it would have been great. There was just so much crap in both albums though.

The Axl ballads were great but I'll remember these albums as the time when Axl disapperred up his own ass, never to be found again.

This is also true. Filler can be a killer.
 
I call bullshit at the cries of post-Pinkerton Weezer. Maladroit and Green were both okay -- not classic-level of Blue and Pinkerton, but certainly enjoyable fare that consistently sounds like (and excuse me for this) 'proper' Weezer from tracks 1 to their finish.

It was with the release of Make Believe that I believe their sound evolved into something I didn't find appealing, even if it was a switch in sound that only raised its head during certain songs. Beverly Hills is the obvious example of what I'm talking aboutr, a pop song that is patently different from the sort of pop songs they started out making. Red album was when I officially phased out.
 
DonasaurusRex said:
...thats 3 strikes on one page, your comprehension needs leveling up. First off thats the remix of the catalyst and seriously why would you hand pick those songs, knowing that every single person on this board has probably heard the other songs they've put out like i dunno that shit we keep hearing when a 1b dollar grossing transformers movie comes out. Thats beyond stretching it buddy. This could fit right in on their first 2 albums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIpr4_mFVM

but i guess its not christian rock enough...

They didn't do a song on Transformers 3, and that was the opening song to Thousand Suns, which pretty much set the tone for the entire album, which includes such winners as "Robot Boy" which would have gotten them laughed out of the industry back during Hybrid Theory. But do tell us more about striking out.
 
H3xum said:

For the most part this is correct. I take it a more of a misstep since A Crow Left of the Murder was a much better album than Morning View for different reasons, but the downward spiral continued with:

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The Resistance from Muse was a huge misstep, and the song they made for the Twilight soundtrack was goddamn terrible. I fear they have lost their touch.
 
Power Glove said:
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It makes me mad how many people didn't hear about them until this piece of trash rolled onto the scene.

Ugh. So right. The price of fame indeed.
 
wenis said:
bands jump sharks? or did their sound just change?

Shifting genres...

Noori:

A band that makes a song like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zek216Ur7EY

and goes to this after the guy gets married: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZdOOTfN7ig

literally selling out with above song.

Call the Band:

Shayad (Perhaps) really weird video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8fzB3P_Fw

Ho Jaana Da ( Let it be): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW5Oqj5tkRE


Both styles are good but the change in genre is really jumping of the shark. lol At least Call makes some awesome songs still : (like your loss): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWlhBsNN4U8 but still not as good as the good old days. lol
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
am i listening to muse or aaliyah? fucking horrible. the rest of the album is shit too. there are a couple good songs (literally, a couple), and the rest range from mediocre to absolute shit

The whole album is shit but I don't think Black Holes was that great either compared to the three albums before it.
 
WoodenLung said:
That's not Load and Reload.

Both of those are great alt rock albums with some of Hetfields best lyrics. Bleeding Me is a beautifully written song. It was a change in the sound not a loss of talent. If anything the craft actually went up because they tried more avenues than ever before.

I'll agree with St. Anger because there is almost nothing good or redeeming about that album but I remember lots of people being very excited about it just because it was fast and loud.

I've been listening to Death Magnetic and it is a damn good Metallica album.
 
Anything Muse released after Absolution is utter garbage.
Coldplay's last good album was A Rush of Blood to the Head.
 
I could list a lot of bands here, but one band comes to my mind immediately.

Queensryche.

Seriously, the same band that gave us this masterpiece...

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... gave us this flaming pile of ass.

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I think you could say the turning point album was Empire, but that album was actually pretty good. The full on SUCK didn't actually hit 'til Q2K.
 
djsandman said:
Trouble is, they never fully cleared the shark with that one. The propeller got stuck in shark flesh and they flailed around for another album afterward. Word is still out on whether they've left the shark.
 
I don't get the Oasis posts. Be Here Now was a mess of an album, agreed, but every album after has been at least competent. The band had their shaky moments but Standing on the Shoulders of Giants, Heathen Chemistry, and Dig Out Your Soul all have their moments, with Don't Believe the Truth being a legitimately good listen all the way through.

Some people are just way too attached to What's the Story, as good as it is.
 
Sunflower said:
The last great Ministry album that mattered:
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Everything since that has been tepid and especially lately, too full of political bullshit.
Land of Rape and Honey>The Mind is A Terrible Thing To Taste>Twitch>Filth Pig>Dark Side of The Spoon>>>>>>>>Psalm 69
 
Slappers Only said:
Trouble is, they never fully cleared the shark with that one. The propeller got stuck in shark flesh and they flailed around for another album afterward. Word is still out on whether they've left the shark.

I've listened to Lulu, their part isn't bad but Lou Reed keeps them firmly on the shark.
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
I was a huge JEW fan before this album. Like, my favorite band ever. There were some good songs on this album, but there were some very bad ones as well.

I'll always follow them because they were so influential for me at one point. But I've been pretty tepid on them since Chase This Light.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
Resistance - Muse
One of the worst albums of last decade.
Kalnos said:
Radiohead TKOL or 'after In Rainbows'.
TKOL was amazing. Bloom and Feral are amazing live. And if you throw Staircase and Daily Mail in the mix (which they should have) the album is great.
 
Mickey Avalon said:
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The Mars Volta - Octahedron

ugh yeah. really bummed me out too. still, leading up to the albums release, i got the vibe that this was really a b-sides album and purposely done to release some of the mainstream style verse-chorus-verse songs they had in the vault.

i'll give them this next album to return to form!
 
_dementia said:
I feel Interpol is a band that gets worse and worse with each subsequent album
I liked Antics a whole lot as well as the one that came after that.

The self titled album is SHIT though. The whole progressively getting worse thing definitely applies to The Mars Volta though.
 
Ya'll are crazy. Chase This Light and Light Grenades are great albums. I say this in the universe of all music, not just simply comparing them to the bands own releases.
 
Something Wicked said:
When things started going downhill:


Then Dave and Co. went past the point of no return with this pile of shit:

Someone hasn't listened to Endgame or the singles from Thirteen.
 
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Sunflower said:
The last great Ministry album that mattered:
Everything since that has been tepid and especially lately, too full of political bullshit.

You know Psalm 69 was full of "political bullshit" too right? Rio Grande Blood was a bit blatant but otherwise it wasn't too different from the usual.
 
Something Wicked said:
When things started going downhill:

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Then Dave and Co. went past the point of no return with this pile of shit:

http://i.imgur.com/xMrTF.jpg

Then they released The System Has Failed and completely redeemed themselves.

N4Us said:
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You know Psalm 69 was full of "political bullshit" too right? Rio Grande Blood was a bit blatant but otherwise it wasn't too different from the usual.

No. This was the point when In Flames stopped being awesome:

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Whenever I don't like their latest album or hate the people that are now "into" them.

Not really. I couldn't care less. Whole business of "selling out" and how people talk about it amuses me.
 
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