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Cloudy said:
Man, I feel sorry for Bush with all the worldwide scorn he's receiving. He is not an inherently bad guy. He just wasn't qualified on world affairs and let his advisers lead him over the cliff.
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Yes he fucking is!
 
I also thought Bush did a good job of keeping his cool. Would have been hilarious if he totally bitched out and hit behind the lectern or something :lol
 
thefit said:
Did you guys see the guy throwing his shoes at Bush?! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Oh my god someone get this on youtube! Its all over msnbc, they even stopped their lame Sunday pre-recorded shows to break in with the footage, I was rolling on the floor!:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Saw it a few minutes ago on Dutch news, absolutely hilarious :lol :lol :lol
 
Cloudy said:
Man, I feel sorry for Bush with all the worldwide scorn he's receiving. He is not an inherently bad guy. He just wasn't informed/qualified on world affairs and let his advisers lead him over the cliff.
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He may not be inherently bad but he is inherently ignorant and thats just as bad, the guy was born with a silver spoon into a life of political privilege, he's a moron that because of his name managed to fail upwards. This joke of a president has never gotten it and never will he was a willfully puppet for his party, just because he was to dumb to realize he was doing wrong or because he manage to lie and convince himself he was doing right doesn't excuse it.
 
He would only be badass if he caught the shoe in mid air and threw it back at the guy. That would redeem him for everything.
 
Cloudy said:
I'm pretty liberal but I think Bush is a good guy outside of many his policies.
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Bah. In my eyes his oh-so-hilarious folksiness only makes his crimes worse. Haha I'm a corrupt asshole now watch this drive. etc

Hootie said:
You are an inherently super rad guy.
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pretty much
 
tyguy20204 said:
Did anyone watch Meet the Press? David Gregory was actually pretty good, of course it was a lightweight kind of episode.
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Mitt Romney: "CUT TAXES CUT TAXES AND AFTER DAT CUT SUM MO TAXES! SHORT TERM GAINS! SPEND SPEND SPEND ON MILITARY!"
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Mitt Romney: "CUT TAXES CUT TAXES AND AFTER DAT CUT SUM MO TAXES! SHORT TERM GAINS! SPEND SPEND SPEND ON MILITARY!"
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I considered watching it, right until I saw he had not only Romney but Carly Fiorina on. I decided to hammer a nail through my dick instead.

This was fascinating: the rejected designs of Obama's logo, from the team that developed it:

http://www.logodesignlove.com/obama-08-logo-design-options

A few of them:

obama-08-logo-2.jpg


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(wat)
 
Turnout in presidential elections hits high
61.6 percent of eligible voters cast ballots, the highest rate since 1968

WASHINGTON - Enthusiasm among blacks and Democrats for Barack Obama's candidacy pushed voter turnout in this year's elections to the highest level in 40 years.

Final figures from nearly every state and the District of Columbia showed that more than 131 million people voted, the most ever for a presidential election. A little more than 122 million voted in 2004.

This year's total is 61.6 percent of the nation's eligible voters, the highest turnout rate since 1968, when Republican Richard M. Nixon defeated Democrat Hubert Humphrey, said Michael McDonald, a political science professor at George Mason University

States finished certifying their election results this weekend, including California on Saturday. The Electoral College was scheduled to elect Obama president on Monday, with electors meeting in each state to vote in a largely ceremonial procedure.

Third straight increase
Turnout increased for the third straight presidential election, encouraging news for those who have warned about voter apathy. Four years ago, 60.1 percent of those eligible voted.

"We seem to have restored the levels of civic engagement that we had in the 1950s and 1960s," McDonald said. "But we didn't break those levels."

McDonald calculated turnout rates based on the number of eligible voters among adult U.S. citizens. Experts calculate turnout rates in different ways based on whom they consider eligible voters, a process that excludes noncitizens and, in most states, convicted felons.

Regardless of the method, turnout fell short of many predictions, in part because voters in some Republican areas of the country were not as enthusiastic this year with Sen. John McCain as the party's nominee as they were four years ago when President George W. Bush won a second term.

Bush's unpopularity after eight years in office, the nation's fatigue with the Iraq war and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression — coupled with Obama's message of change — contributed to the increased turnout for Obama. He was also helped by a surge in black voters, who had the opportunity to elect the first black president.

The number of registered Democrats jumped in many states, helping to propel Obama to a larger share of the vote than Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee, in 44 states and the District of Columbia.

Early voting hit new high
Early voting hit a new high, with about 41 million people — or more than 31 percent — voting before Election Day, either by mail or at designated sites, according to returns compiled by The Associated Press. Early voting accounted for 22 percent of the votes cast in 2004.

The Obama campaign invested heavily in early voting, and it appeared to be the difference in several states, though many of those people might have eventually voted on Election Day.

Voter turnout increased substantially in newly competitive states such as Virginia, Indiana and North Carolina, which all went for Obama after decades of favoring Republican presidential candidates. Turnout also increased in some Republican states with large black populations, such as Mississippi, South Carolina and Georgia.

North Carolina, which had competitive elections for president, governor and Senate, had the biggest increase in turnout, from 57.8 percent in 2004 to 65.8 percent this year.

"I don't know that we did anything different than in other states, but the magnitude was so different," said North Carolina Democratic Chairman Jerry Meek. "We were the only state in the country with a nationally targeted presidential race, gubernatorial race and Senate race."

Obama won North Carolina by 14,177 votes, out of more than 4.3 million cast. In the Senate race, Democrat Kay Hagan beat incumbent Republican Elizabeth Dole. Beverly Perdue was elected the state's first female governor.

Highest turnout in Minnesota
Minnesota, with a competitive Senate race that still hasn't been decided, had the highest turnout rate, even though it dropped slightly, to 77.8 percent. It was followed by Wisconsin, Maine, New Hampshire and Iowa.

West Virginia and Hawaii tied for the lowest turnout rate, at 50.6 percent. Arkansas, Utah and Texas came close.

In all, the turnout rate increased in 33 states and the District of Columbia.

Turnout dropped in some states that did not have competitive presidential contests, such as Utah and Oregon. Oregon had been a battleground in previous presidential elections and the state had a competitive Senate race.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28226046/
 
PhoenixDark said:
I hope Palin gets the nom and McCain pulls a Lieberman, campaigning for Obama in 2012
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Haha, no. He was saying he might campaign for other Republicans (Pawlenty, Jindal, etc.) though you know he's going to end up supporting Palin anyway. It is nice that he's defending Obama from the spurious Blagojevich charges though.
 
Had to drop to page 4 to find the poligaf thread. That must be a record.

Look like Caroline Kennedy is going to get the job.

Caroline Kennedy to seek Clinton's Senate seat
Dec 15 03:25 PM US/Eastern
By MICHAEL GORMLEY
Associated Press Writer

ALBANY, N.Y (AP) - A person close to the discussions says Caroline Kennedy will seek the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Hillary Clinton.

Kennedy has told Democratic Gov. David Paterson she wants the job should Clinton be confirmed as secretary of state for President-elect Barack Obama.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity Monday because neither Kennedy nor Paterson have acknowledged she is seeking the position.

If appointed by Paterson, Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of President John F. Kennedy, would hold the seat once occupied by her late uncle, Robert F. Kennedy.

Other Democrats seeking Paterson's nod include New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/business/media/15msnbc.html?_r=3&partner=rss&emc=rss

Awesome news!

MSNBC is replacing one David with another on its 6 p.m. program, “1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.”

Brendan Smialowski for The New York Times

David Shuster, right, who often appears with Chris Matthews, left, will host “1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.”
The cable news channel, owned by NBC Universal, is expected to announce Monday that David Shuster, a Washington correspondent, will succeed David Gregory on the political program, people with knowledge of the move said Sunday night.

Mr. Gregory started anchoring the early evening hour, then named “Race for the White House,” last March. Last week, after Mr. Gregory was named the new moderator of “Meet the Press,” Mr. Shuster served as the substitute host.
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Shuster is my favorite guy on MSNBC since Abrams left and I've been wanting him to get his own show for a while now :D
 
Stoney Mason said:
The media is trying to spin this as "McCain hates Palin" but even if this is true it's a stupid spin on the story.

Only a moron would declare his unwavering support for something that happens 4 years down the road.
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Agreed. Lieberman assumed he'd have Gore's support in 2004, but, well, that's Lieberman.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Had to drop to page 4 to find the poligaf thread. That must be a record.

Look like Caroline Kennedy is going to get the job.
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Hmmm. I like her, but I wish it wasn't so blatantly a continuation of the Kennedy dynasty. She'll do just fine, though.

Coleman/Franken update: an AP stundy of the challenged ballots agrees with the Franken camp that he'll net 200 from them, putting him ahead. Examination of the challenged ballots starts tomorrow.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/12/few_real_mysteries_found_in_mi.php

Between this, the ruling on the 133 ballots gone missing (they will be counted) and the absentee ruling (they will also be counted), Franken's camp is convinced they will win now.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Hmmm. I like her, but I wish it wasn't so blatantly a continuation of the Kennedy dynasty. She'll do just fine, though.

Coleman/Franken update: an AP stundy of the challenged ballots agrees with the Franken camp that he'll net 200 from them, putting him ahead. Examination of the challenged ballots starts tomorrow.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/12/few_real_mysteries_found_in_mi.php

Between this, the ruling on the 133 ballots gone missing (they will be counted) and the absentee ruling (they will also be counted), Franken's camp is convinced they will win now.
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That's good Franken news. I'm really happy for him. I legit wanted him to win because I think he brings a fresh face to the Senate.
 
Bams' Team releasing details of their internal investigation into contacts with Blago next week, per Fitzgerald's request

http://thepage.time.com/obama-team-statement-on-internal-blago-investigation/

"At the direction of the President-elect, a review of Transition staff contacts with Governor Blagojevich and his office has been conducted and completed and is ready for release. That review affirmed the public statements of the President-elect that he had no contact with the governor or his staff, and that the President-elect's staff was not involved in inappropriate discussions with the governor or his staff over the selection of his successor as US Senator.

"Also at the President-elect's direction, Gregory Craig, counsel to the Transition, has kept the US Attorney's office informed of this fact-gathering process in order to ensure our full cooperation with the investigation.
"In the course of those discussions, the US Attorney's office requested the public release of the Transition review be deferred until the week of December 22, in order not to impede their investigation of the governor. The Transition has agreed to this revised timetable for release," said Obama Transition Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer.
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Damn, just came to post the internal review story. Sounds like everything's good for Obama in that regard, though I doubt that'll stop everyone from harping on it.
 
thefro said:
Bams' Team releasing details of their internal investigation into contacts with Blago next week, per Fitzgerald's request

http://thepage.time.com/obama-team-statement-on-internal-blago-investigation/
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Very good. I had assumed that they were coordinating with Fitzgerald. The best thing they can do is a coordinated release so there is no overlap or trickle of information that doesn't show the full picture. Hopefully Fitzgerald releases additional information alongside Obama's corroborating what they report.
 
Iksenpets said:
Damn, just came to post the internal review story. Sounds like everything's good for Obama in that regard, though I doubt that'll stop everyone from harping on it.
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The only ones harping it are the mainstream media - no one else cares about it since they're more worried about the possible failed bail-out for the big three.

Goddamnit stupid MSM - stop creating a something-gate when there's none to be made of.
 
You know, I couldn't post during the election season, but I remember reading page upon page of the older PoliGAF threads (the initial four days of Sarah Palin had me rolling), and hoping that Obama would pull everything out. I even donated for the first time. When he did, I also remember not actually believing it happened, even though its on the DVR.

Now, I'm so happy that he's President, finally, someone with brains can take the reins.

That said, has there been any news on who will be CTO?
 
Boombloxer said:
You know, I couldn't post during the election season, but I remember reading page upon page of the older PoliGAF threads (the initial four days of Sarah Palin had me rolling), and hoping that Obama would pull everything out. I even donated for the first time. When he did, I also remember not actually believing it happened, even though its on the DVR.

Now, I'm so happy that he's President, finally, someone with brains can take the reins.

That said, has there been any news on who will be CTO?
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Yeah I wanna know the CTO stuff. ;)
 
Haha - remember his national security press conference where everyone but Obama was buried behind the podium? They put a step there this time so the short person talking now can be seen. Got a good laugh from everyone as she walked up behind it.
sangreal said:
was the first question about blagojevich and his translucency?
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Q&A hasn't started yet, but I'm sure all of the Q&A will be about Blago. Energy and environmental policy is so boring.

Edit: they let Biden speak. And he's still on campaign mode. :lol
 
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