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Polygon: Disney can save Nintendo, for 19 Billion.

Pixar: $7.4 billion
LucasFilm: $4.05 billion
Marvel: $4 billion
Grand Total: $15.45 billion

Disney is at the stage where they don't focus on acquiring talent, but rather IPs, since they're so wealthy they can simply hire the talent they need once they own the IPs.

For Nintendo's IPs, they would essentially be paying more than Pixar, LucasFilm, and Marvel combined. On the one hand, most of their IPs do fit with Disney's general image, but on the other they would be taking on a company that isn't likely to generate anywhere near the astronomical ROI they can get out of Pixar, LucasFilm, and Marvel individually over time, much less combined.

It also doesn't gain them strategic new ground they haven't owned before or remove a major competitor to their core product. Buying Pixar solidified them as the primary force in animation children's films with the benefit that these films also had some appeal among older audiences. Marvel and Star Wars helped their expansion more heavily into the teenager-and-up demographic with brands that still had appeal down into the core age range that Disney's products completely dominate.

Hasbro is an acquisition I could see them making. They're a $7.16 billion company that holds tons of highly valuable children's IPs and also gives them even more strength in their merchandizing arm, which is a major part of their monetization strategy. Hasbro is also very good at forming partnerships to merchandize other companies' IP, which would be useful to Disney if they want to participate in revenue from popular brands they don't own.

While they could make more video games by owning Nintendo, that's a small part of their overall merchandizing structure, and they're not aligned with Disney's digital-mobile strategy for internal development to boot. This is before we even get to the fading popularity of Nintendo and their core product areas.

Overall, it's a huge premium for a company that's not really very valuable to Disney and it's not like Disney is out of better options for acquisition.
 
The hell is a net revenue?

Market cap is what everyone else uses. You can't project a companies future with a three year projection...perpetuity would be better.
 
Saving?

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Nintendo doesn't need "saving".

But let's assume Nintendo did need "saving", then Disney would be a terrible choice. I mean just look at what happened to all those Star Wars games, just look at what happened to fricking LucasArts and so on. No thank you. Fuck Disney.

And while we are at it, fuck Polygon as well. I'm pretty sure that Nintendo will still be in business (without anyone saving them) after Polygon got closed down.
 
AvoidDaNoid said:
Why does Nintendo need saving if they can lose 150 million each year until the year 2075?
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I don't necessarily agree that Nintendo "needs saving," but Nintendo does have to be cautious about how they proceed as a company.

When a business is failing, losses can easily compound on each other and spiral out of control.

Nintendo may be cash-rich right now, but that can very quickly dissipate. As a business they need to be oriented towards growth.
 
This seems almost like a waste of time since the author admits in the article that it's just a fantasy. So, WTF?!

Since Disney is not in the market for hardware at the moment, I doubt they would even consider buying Nintendo since they would only consider the purchase of the IP (which they would immediately turn around and cross-platform everything).

Also, to buy Nintendo, it would cost more then the $19 billion that the article is saying (you can't forget Nintendo's assets and equity - both are above 1 trillion yen). You have to consider what share holders would be willing to part with, and a sale to Disney would come at a massive premium.

Of course, all this assumes that Nintendo wants to be purchased, which they don't.
 
jimi_dini said:
And while we are at it, fuck Polygon as well. I'm pretty sure that Nintendo will still be in business (without anyone saving them) after Polygon got closed down.
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I hope you're right and I hope I'll still be around when you'll bump this thread to say if you called it...or not.
 
there is not enough popcorn on earth for the thread that would ensue

anyways, Disney hardly needs Nintendo, they are already competing handily without them in the kids market.
 
It's not even a great fantasy. There's no reason for this article to exist. Besides being fucking stupid, Disney buying Nintendo wouldn't do anything outside of making this third party circlejerk fantasy that fanboys have come true.

...Okay, so I guess in some people's minds it's a "great fantasy".
 
If it means I'm no longer required to buy Nintendo Hardware to play Nintendo Software than I'm all in on this theoretical premise.
 
Steve Bowler has worked on animated feature films, Emmy award winning animated TV series, video games on just about any recent gaming hardware from mobile to console to PC. Currently a Lead Designer at Phosphor Games helping teams to create awesome stuff.
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Ah self-promotion. I don't know who uses Polygon daily so am not sure I can really bemoan a lack of thought in using articles to promote ones self rather than create quality content for readership.
 
Why would Nintendo want to be an acquisition target? Even if Disney could justify the effort to acquiring Nintendo and making video game consoles, what in Nintendo's history suggests that it would accept that arrangement?
 
Xion_Stellar said:
If it means I'm no longer required to buy Nintendo Hardware to play Nintendo Software than I'm all in on this theoretical premise.
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Hell no. Nintendo are the only hardware designers with any imagination. If they leave the hardware market, we'll have no one infusing the industry with new ideas, and nothing but a pair of increasingly dull, PC-like black slabs from Microsoft and Sony every generation. That's no future I want a part of.
 
Chie Satonaka said:
It's not even a great fantasy. There's no reason for this article to exist. Besides being fucking stupid, Disney buying Nintendo wouldn't do anything outside of making this third party circlejerk fantasy that fanboys have come true.

...Okay, so I guess in some people's minds it's a "great fantasy".
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Great timing:
Xion_Stellar said:
If it means I'm no longer required to buy Nintendo Hardware to play Nintendo Software than I'm all in on this theoretical premise.
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AvoidDaNoid said:
I think a partnership would be more likely in where Nintendo lets Disney use some of their IP for cartoon movies. This could increase the popularity of Nintendo characters.
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Now this here is the dream. I'd love to be able to take my kids to see a Super Mario themed movie by modern day Walt Disney Animation Studios.
 
Disney is the only company I can see Nintendo being purchased buy, and for many reasons. This would only happen if Nintendo truly sells out, or lost a ton of money. (Which would take a while....)

But in all retrospect Disney NEEDS a video game company like Nintendo because they simply don't understand the game industry nor do they have a good foot in the industry, especially since they closed their only game studio Disney Interactive. And the two would mesh perfectly together because they have the sames goals, quality, and idealism.

Long story short, this is a high probability. But not now. It all depends on where the industry heads in the future.
 
WTF...who or what is this Polygon website?

Disney and Nintendo, what a ridiculous notion. They'd probably shut Nintendo down within a year.
 
Nirolak said:
Pixar: $7.4 billion
LucasFilm: $4.05 billion
Marvel: $4 billion
Grand Total: $15.45 billion

Disney is at the stage where they don't focus on acquiring talent, but rather IPs, since they're so wealthy they can simply hire the talent they need once they own the IPs.

For Nintendo's IPs, they would essentially be paying more than Pixar, LucasFilm, and Marvel combined. On the one hand, most of their IPs do fit with Disney's general image, but on the other they would be taking on a company that isn't likely to generate anywhere near the astronomical ROI they can get out of Pixar, LucasFilm, and Marvel individually over time, much less combined.

It also doesn't gain them strategic new ground they haven't owned before or remove a major competitor to their core product. Buying Pixar solidified them as the primary force in animation children's films with the benefit that these films also had some appeal among older audiences. Marvel and Star Wars helped their expansion more heavily into the teenager-and-up demographic with brands that still had appeal down into the core age range that Disney's products completely dominate.

Hasbro is an acquisition I could see them making. They're a $7.16 billion company that holds tons of highly valuable children's IPs and also gives them even more strength in their merchandizing arm, which is a major part of their monetization strategy. Hasbro is also very good at forming partnerships to merchandize other companies' IP, which would be useful to Disney if they want to participate in revenue from popular brands they don't own.

While they could make more video games by owning Nintendo, that's a small part of their overall merchandizing structure, and they're not aligned with Disney's digital-mobile strategy for internal development to boot. This is before we even get to the fading popularity of Nintendo and their core product areas.

Overall, it's a huge premium for a company that's not really very valuable to Disney and it's not like Disney is out of better options for acquisition.
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Very well put.

I doubt Disney values Nintendo's IPs that highly either compared to Star Wars and Marvel to pay almost 4-5 times the premium to acquire them and get into the gaming market.
 
Illucio said:
But in all retrospect Disney NEEDS a video game company like Nintendo because they simply don't understand the game industry nor do they have a good foot in the industry, especially since they closed their only game studio Disney Interactive. And the two would mesh perfectly together because they have the sames goals, quality, and idealism.
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You've got to be kidding.

Disney Infinity, all of Marvel, all of Star Wars, all of Disney proper, all of Pixar, and you think they need Nintendo. Hardly. They can hire whomever they want. They even tried internal development (and made good games) but decided they didn't need it. Basically Microsoft's approach, partner up. Hell Disney is even super popular in Japan, watch the Frozen tie-ins clobber a bunch of Nintendo properties.
 
Stand back goddamn it. Go away logic! It's time for me to daydream.

*Disney buys Nintendo in a relationship much like Pixar where they are left alone and allowed to keep their culture. Nintendo hires Mark Cerny to design their next console hardware as to best power the next generation of exclusive Nintendo, Star Wars, Marvel and Disney games. Disney empowers Miyamoto to continue his experiments in animation from short Pikmin animations to full Nintendo films. Disney builds new attractions in their parks based around Nintendo properties the first of these being Hyrule Adventure, Mario Kart Real Ride(TM) and Pokepark. The Wii U is minimized into Nintendo's next handheld and I win the lotto.*

Ok I'm done now.
 
Illucio said:
Disney is the only company I can see Nintendo being purchased buy, and for many reasons. This would only happen if Nintendo truly sells out, or lost a ton of money. (Which would take a while....)

But in all retrospect Disney NEEDS a video game company like Nintendo because they simply don't understand the game industry nor do they have a good foot in the industry, especially since they closed their only game studio Disney Interactive. And the two would mesh perfectly together because they have the sames goals, quality, and idealism.

Long story short, this is a high probability. But not now. It all depends on where the industry heads in the future.
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Disney Interactive isn't closed. They just released Disney Infinity 2.0.
 
Why did I torture myself by reading such an idiotic article? Did anyone make a bet yet that nintendo will be around longer than polygon? If not I am making it now.
Nintendo doesn't need saving, they are doing fine and have thus far this year released excellent games, plus if the Amiibro does as well as people suspect, it would mean everything is looking up for nintendo. What we need saving is from polygon's ridiculous writing.
 
Honestly this sounds like a terrible idea for Disney. The only thing I can think that would help them would be getting their IPs for cartoon and movie rights. This would honestly be a much better deal for Nintendo
 
Einbroch said:
The article's title is clearly clickbait with the word "saving". However, this is just a hypothetical piece saying "what if" and how much it would cost.

Criticize the title if you want, but it's simply a hypothetical. So much anti-Polygon circlejerking on this forum.
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Did you write this nonsense?
 
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