If the Metroid series were to integrate into the Marvel Universe, wouldn't it be considered a Cosmic Title? Samus wouldn't hang out near Earth often enough for Tony's shenanigans.
Light Suit for Tony would be neat though.
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Polygon: Disney can save Nintendo, for 19 Billion.
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Light Suit for Tony would be neat though.
BishopLamont
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this is stupid
nintendo does not need money
nintendo does not need money
What? Mojang was a small company with just one major IP that is a extremely valuable.
Nintendo has mountains of IP and assets/equity in their company.
They couldn't be more distant from each other.
shinra-bansho
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There's far more downside for Disney from anything like this that it makes no sense. Marvel and LucasFilm were cheap given the income they've generated and will generate.
Ehhh, putting aside discussion about whether this would/could happen, I don't think its hard to imagine another company better leveraging Nintendo's IP. The bulk of Nintendos market cap is due to their cash/eq. holdings, suggesting investors don't think Nintendos IP is all that valuable while in the hands of Nintendo right now.
The Artisan
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nintendo doesn't need saving.
This as well. They can go third party and be as big as EA or Activision. No need to be bought out.
nephilimdj
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I dont see how it would be 19 billions, most likely be a deal similar to MS buying Nokia, with Nintendo holding on to its old company but Disney gaining everything modern.
lensoftruth
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Seriously? Polygon get dumber every article. Asset wise Nintendo are with over $16 Billion so to buy them you'd pay double that as a minimum.
How do these people get jobs?
How do these people get jobs?
BishopLamont
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their ip's are so valuable, people really underestimate them.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Are polygon writers exGamefaqs members.
theusedversion
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I would honestly love this. Anything for the possibility to change Nintendo's current ways. At the moment, Nintendo's archaic policies keep me from supporting them. They could use a shot in the arm. Not sure if Disney is that answer but I would gladly take the chance over the current Nintendo.
Ehh, one could argue Disney would market the hell out of it and get more value out of it then Nintendo ever could, (mass merchandising,theme park, movies, TV shows, synergy ++ etc.)
But even then, it would only be good under the most ideal of situations.
The more realistic situations (if bought) would be:
A) Leave Nintendo at creative freedom and do little to touch the franchise besides some much needed marketing. (2nd Most likely given Marvel and Pixar... but Disney wouldn't get as much value as they put into the purchase.)
B)Disney gets totally involved in Nintendo and puts their IPs at maximum value and puts them to work on games for their various IPs. (Least likely... no precedent for this whatsoever... something that Ninty fans will fear.)
or
C) Disney integrates Nintendo like Star Wars by providing merchandising, marketing, rides, funding, more possibility of TV Shows / Movies... leaves most creative freedom to Nintendo. (Most likely given how Disney has treated Star Wars ... and inevitably Marvel.)
EVEN THEN, in near perfect/ideal conditions, there a lot of cons and it doesn't seem to make much business sense to Nintendo, and especially Disney, and their overall ideology.
Also I'd like to reiterate that Polygon's article is completely pointless. It's a HYPOTHETICAL with NO BASIS that is then followed up to why such a thing would NEVER HAPPEN. And of course, Smash Day really needed a Nintendo "needs to be saved" article.
Chie Satonaka
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I'm not even trying to be an ass. Sometimes I really feel like this is the case. It makes the most sense.
BishopLamont
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they don't need disney to do any of that, they don't do it because they don't want to or already are.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Disney bought Pixar because a) they were in imminent danger of losing the Pixar distribution gig; b) they were facing a board member and shareholder revolt over Eisner's continued stewardship of the company and a perception that the company had hit creative problems; c) on the condition that Pixar higher-ups essentially took over the new company (Lasseter in particular). They didn't buy Pixar because they felt like spending billions of dollars, and they didn't buy Pixar to fix Pixar.
Based on this, why would the comparison in this hypothetical be Disney's acquisition of Pixar?
Based on this, why would the comparison in this hypothetical be Disney's acquisition of Pixar?
You guys are crazy! Granted, Vox isn't nearly what I wanted, but it's fine as a culture site, but The Verge is fantastic, and there's a lot of really good content on Polygon. Plus they're absolutely pushing web design forward.
CartridgeBlower
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Cuz reasons dude!
Like I said, they don't want or need any of that, and definitely don't want to, as it goes against their ideology.
There is no doubt in my mind however, that Disney would utilize the value out of Nintendo to its full extent. If Disney was solely in charge of those things, (marketing, advertising, TV/Movies, theme parks (which Disney are near pefect at.)) Nintendo would be generate way more than they could ever possibly under this current management.
BUT OF COURSE, this would be really bad business sense for both companies, would go against Nintendo's ideologies (which some could argue worsens their output of games and "Nintendo Magic",) and overall is just risky for fans worrying about brand integrity. Pair that up with the fact that Nintendo doesn't need/want to be bought and the fact that Disney doesn't need/want to buy Nintendo financially and you get no reason why this would ever happen.
lensoftruth
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I don't know why though, they've billions in the bank, they're profitible even in crisis and have IPs as well known as brands like coca-cola and mcdonalds.
They're efficient too, half the employees that ubisoft have, yet they put out consistantly polished high quality games and are the biggest game company in th world.
BishopLamont
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yeah no doubt disney would increase the nintendo brand overall, but we've gone through this time and time again, nintendo does not want to be bought out, they'll survive even when sales are bad and nintendo has plenty of options if they ever stopped creating hardware, the last thing they'll ever want to do is to get bought out and lose their control, creatively and authoritatively.
people compare them to the competition from sony and microsoft which blinds them from the valuable of their ip's, which is still selling decently despite bad hardware sales.
they've been the underdog and will always remain the underdog, even when they're succeeding.
Precisely.
Buckethead
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lol no.
terrible idea.
terrible idea.
Hawaii Jeff
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its a horrible fant- nightmare
lensoftruth
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Blogs ain't journalism.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
They especially needed Lasseter to refocus Disney Animation Studios after the line-up of flops Disney had: Teasure Planet, Fantasia 2000, Atlantis, Home on the Range - It was a terrible time for Disney and they needed new blood fast.
lensoftruth
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Nintendo have in recent years been worth more than Sony, either way there's never a massive difference between the two so why compare?
These guys are "journalist" so they should research this shit.
Xbone OS would have to change that you have to go through a long and confusing games/movie/music digital marketplace before you can play your game.
shinra-bansho
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As strong as a few of their brands are, just no. The value and renown of their brands just isn't comparable.
AlphaStriker
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Even if Disney could acquire Nintendo for $19 billion, how in the world do they plan on making that money back?
I don't think all the Mario iOS games in the world would make close to $19 billion.
I don't think all the Mario iOS games in the world would make close to $19 billion.
SporeCrawler
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They are not in debt so unlikely
Aquamarine
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The Coca-Cola Company has a market cap of $194 billion.
McDonalds Corp. has a market cap of $94 billion.
Nintendo Co., Ltd. has a market cap of $16 billion.
Any Nintendo IP value is tiny compared to behemoths like Coca-Cola or McDonald's.
Rebel Leader
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you'll be amazed on how many people know mario
You are comparing food produces to an electronics manufacturer.. There are so many things wrong with this comparison.
Mario is the most recognizable and popular fictional character in the media if I'm not mistaken.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Nintendo being bought by a bigger corporation would be terrible. They'd lose everything that makes them unique.
Aquamarine
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The point is to show the differences in scope. Both the brands and the companies are much bigger and more valuable.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/09/apple-world-valuable-brand-google-coca-cola
Top 10 brands:
Apple - $118bn
Google - $107bn
Coca-Cola - $81bn
IBM - $72bn
Microsoft - $61bn
GE - $45bn
Samsung - $45bn
Toyota - $42bn
McDonald’s - $42bn
Mercedes-Benz - $34bn
He is, but Disney is the one company that has stronger character IPs and especially character merchandising than him. Mario is big in the video game world, but outside of it his presence is fairly weak. Disney, on the other hand, is absolutely dominant in toy stores.
Where does Disney rank in all of this? If number 10 is 34bn, then I can't help but imagine that it would cost nearly everything Disney has to obtain Nintendo.
Really, what were the writers of that article thinking?
Aeriscloud
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Disney can save Polygon for a lot less.
Nah, I'm just kidding, nothing can save Polygon from itself.
Nah, I'm just kidding, nothing can save Polygon from itself.
Comfortably at #14 with $27.4bn
But remember this is brand value.
Disney in assets could easily buy Nintendo
Edit: Disney has nearly 10x higher market cap than Nintendo for reference
shinra-bansho
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That's Interbrand's brand value ranking. Nintendo is #100 at around a worth of $4B.
So you either grossly overestimate Nintendo's value or underestimate Disney's resources.
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On a related aside, Disney will generate around $1B in merchandise revenue from 2013's Frozen this year.
Badlucktroll
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They should buy SEGA and get it over with!
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
On the money.
Disney Retail Consumer Goods totaled $40.9 Billion in 2013 (Marvel, Disney, Lucasfilm incl.)
Mario & Co.... nowhere to be found.
Pokemon Company totaled $1.5 Billion in 2013 (half of that revenue was generated in Japan however).
Nintendo recently started their amiibo initiative and their Character IP licensing, but they are not a major player in any shape or form. We shall see, and I hope Nintendo expands more seriously on that front as their IP's have alot of weight, but just poorly monetized by management.
http://images2.advanstar.com/PixelMags/license-global/digitaledition/05-2014_sp.html#4
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