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Because the Catholics are so clean on money matters and only use it on helping the needy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
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Pope Francis Calls for Ending Tax-Exempt Status of Churches That Dont Help the Needy
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Yeah, about that.
Let's give the pope's what's the pope's. The catholic church is the world's largest charity, at 160b of charity per year out of a total of 360, and that's not counting the absurd amount of unpaid\underpaid voluntary work.
What they keep for 'themselves' is roughly 10%, which really isn't much. The Catholic Church takes 110b in donations and makes 160b of charity per year, which is more than what can be said for most charitable organizations, which can often run 20-50% overheads of various types.
That's more about being a Jesuit, which are pretty iconochlastic, than anything. But it's a powerful symbol.
IdreamofHIME
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Because the Catholics are so clean on money matters and only use it on helping the needy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
You're a fan of Dan Brown, right?
AnathemicOne
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Tax the fuckery please.
Zeus Molecules
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Truly the best Pope
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Nice idea, but how do we define 'help the needy'?
dedicating a to-be-determined percentage of the church's revenue to charitable causes
i would also add that the charity would be strictly prohibited from including proselytizing
brainchild
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Best Pope by miles!
RoadHazard
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That's pretty awesome!
Scientology would go down in a glorious blaze of fire were this to happen to them. Fuck, how I wish it would.
Scientology would go down in a glorious blaze of fire were this to happen to them. Fuck, how I wish it would.
PeskyToaster
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Definitely for this. What is this, pre-Revolution France?!!??!
nah, they'd just pay taxes (as little as they can manage) and be slightly less disgustingly rich
CharlieDigital
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Tax exempt charities can be tax exempt even if only 5-10% of their donations actually go towards charitable spending.
I'd expect the same for these megachurches. Just spend a pittance and keep reaping that tax free monies.
I'd expect the same for these megachurches. Just spend a pittance and keep reaping that tax free monies.
CharlieDigital
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Because the Catholics are so clean on money matters and only use it on helping the needy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
It was there long before he came into power and will be there long after he goes out of power.
But he's walked the walk, not just talked the talk.
By far. Something needing to be said about this problem by someone with this level of.. authority has been a long time coming.
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Grew up Catholic, currently Agnostic.
Right now, Pope Francis is one of the few people I highly respect.
I'm glad he is moving the Catholic Church out of the medieval times.
Right now, Pope Francis is one of the few people I highly respect.
I'm glad he is moving the Catholic Church out of the medieval times.
H.Cornerstone
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This Pope makes me want to donate to the Church
entremet
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Do Catholics proselytize?
Beelzebufo
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Well, John Oliver took his advice.
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Not too shabby, Pope. Not too shabby.
Because the Catholics are so clean on money matters and only use it on helping the needy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
Fuck the Renaissance yo
CrunchyFrog
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Them and televangelists, but televangelists even more so. Incredibly scummy and guilt ridden the way they go about it.
NobleGundam
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MrOogieBoogie
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I feel like the Pope should just make up his own religion without the Catholic stigma attached to him.
Definitely shots at the Prosperity Gospel megachurches and all of that. I mean Olsteens megachurch in Texas got robbed one sunday. Just on church grounds the safe had over 600,000 dollars in it.
I mean they are bringing in on a single sunday what most catholic parishes will see over the course of several years.
I mean they are bringing in on a single sunday what most catholic parishes will see over the course of several years.
He certainly has his sticking points I hate but when standing back and looking at how far forward this pope is aiming to push the church, I have to stand in complete awe.
I mean lets be honest, who honestly thought the Catholic church would be advocating the sort of shit this pope is advocating in their lifetime? It isn't all ideal but god damn is it not a solid step forward in many areas!
I mean lets be honest, who honestly thought the Catholic church would be advocating the sort of shit this pope is advocating in their lifetime? It isn't all ideal but god damn is it not a solid step forward in many areas!
I feel like he's kind of already doing that somehow (not sure if intentional) while also trying to herd some of the more old-fashioned Catholics towards a healthier mindset too.
MrOogieBoogie
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As a Catholic I love everything that this pope is saying and doing. He is definitely making traditionalist sweat. I am strong in my faith and attend weekly but even I will admit some deep flaws within the church.
I just hope that the next pope takes up the same cross as Pope Francis has done and doesn't go back to the old ways. The church is on the right track (albeit very slowly) towards regaining credibility. I pray for the Pope to continue the good work every day.
I just hope that the next pope takes up the same cross as Pope Francis has done and doesn't go back to the old ways. The church is on the right track (albeit very slowly) towards regaining credibility. I pray for the Pope to continue the good work every day.
Francis is not nearly as earth shaking as the media makes him out to be. In many cases he ends up repeating viewpoints Benedict espoused. Benedict though was a complete book nerd who lacked any sort of real charisma. He has made some changes that can be tied to his own philosophy but 8 times out of 10 its something Benedict or John Paul II were pushing during their times
entremet
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Been done lol.
Read up on the European Christian wars. I don't think it would be as bloody today thankfully.
Are you referring to the Catholic religion, or, um, Pope Francis' attempt at taking the good that exists in the Catholic church/religious systems and updating it to reflect modern, global problems?
When it comes to such rigid, often archaic religious bodies such as this.. I don't feel the good progress made by past Popes being repeated by current Popes is a bad thing. Re-enforcing the good programming changes?
Earthstrike
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Holy fuck.
Like it makes sense,
but holy fuck.
Like it makes sense,
but holy fuck.
entremet
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Principle don't change, but the applications can.
It's not like he's altering the cardinal virtues.
He was a bouncer in another life.
Barbacoatl
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This can only mean Bish is part-pope.
He's honestly not changing as much as you think.
Negative Nancys need not apply?
Even if he's laying the foundation to set the precedent for greater changes in the future, it is so much more of a good change than I see from a lot of modern bodies of "power".
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