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Popular online shop- worst customer service ever.

Honestly I've been here for about 3 years and I don't even know where the the list of all the banned sites is at. I would love to know the list so I can beware of buying from the sites.

Anyways, that really sucks man. It took forever for Deal Extreme to fulfill my order, and send a replacement when it didn't work. I'm not using that site ever again.
 
Jeez, it seems the problem is not that the store stole this guys money, but that he didn't put enough please and thank you's in his complaint email.

To OP: Ring this shop and demand your fucking money, and if that gets no where, ring the bank and then the police.
 
rykomatsu said:
note to OP: a polite e-mail, instead of a demanding douchebaggy e-mail, would have probably gotten issues taken care of quicker, even though it was the shop that was at fault.

They over-charged him. He asked for a refund. Their fault, not his.

What's the problem?
 
Davidion said:
Requesting that someone not be a jackass is being imbecilic? That's the dumbest thing I've heard today. Way to take out your problems on the customer service person, because you know, THEY're the ones that are responsible for your problems.

You absolutely have the right to be a douchebag to the customer service agent. Just don't be surprised when you don't get shit done for you.

His first e-mail was just fine. It was a bit blunt, but you're damn well sure they've seen worse. I'd be willing to bet every last nickel in my account they get a LOT, lot worse every day.
 
Firestorm said:
Right, because the customer service rep is the one who did that to you. Here's how you write the e-mail.

Hello,

I ordered a [item name] on [date] for 580,67 kor.. It was order number [order number]. I checked my credit card bill and it shows the charge twice. I only ordered it once. Please credit my account for the additional charge as soon as possible. I have to pay my bills!

Thank you,
[your name]


Will you look at that. Polite, information to quickly find your order, short.

And just as likely to get ignored as a pushy e-mail. Apparently you haven't been around the block enough like some of us. Customer service is a sad state of affairs these days.
 
rykomatsu said:
note to OP: a polite e-mail, instead of a demanding douchebaggy e-mail, would have probably gotten issues taken care of quicker, even though it was the shop that was at fault.

You prat. All he did was demand his money back. He wasn't even remotely abrasive, just firm. Are you really so fucking precious? My Lord.
 
KAP151 said:
They over-charged him. He asked for a refund. Their fault, not his.

What's the problem?

Demand != ask

Who's to say he didn't accidentally hit the "submit" button twice?

Mogg0 said:
You prat. All he did was demand his money back. He wasn't even remotely abrasive, just firm. Are you really so fucking precious? My Lord.

Enjoy economy class or getting rebooked on a different flight while I get (and have been) upgraded to business/first class on crowded/overbooked flights.
 
Durante said:
FWIW, of all the UK shops I've used (including play, dvd.co.uk, thehut and shopto) shopto has actually been the most consistent in terms of delivery times. I've ordered around 6 or so games from them and never had a problem, but maybe I've just been lucky.
It's true about their delivery times. They are top notch...when everything works.
But when something goes wrong, the number of hoops they throw up at you to jump though is just offensive when you compare it to how other shops threat their customers.

I wanted to give them a second chance after the CC debacle, which shouldn't have happened in the first place. Used Paypal ever since.
But after the fuck up I'm in right now, I'm never using them again no matter how tempting their prices might be once in a while.
The possible BS afterwards just isn't worth saving €2.5 most of the time.
 
rykomatsu said:
So tell me, which do you think a customer service rep would be more willing to deal with?

The OP:


or



edit: beaten

Having worked in customer service: the first one would be slightly more likely get better service. But probably no real difference.

Also, there is nothing wrong with the OP. I'd never take the blunt tone personal. I'd probably just feel embarrassed that the company i represented fucked up again.
 
I've had the opposite happen to me. I try to be polite, but things don't get done until I start getting angry/threatening.

Old boss at the bank took 1000 out of my account due to an error. I'm being pretty patient and understanding as I know my old company usually got things done quickly. She said she'd get it fixed next payroll...two weeks away, but I agreed. I wait, nothing happens. She says she'll look into it and I should check back next week. I check in and she goes on vacation. By this time, I'm extremely pissed. I talk to an ombudsman AND I email her manager. Whens she gets back, she immediately calls me, but tries to walk around it and delay again, by now, it's a been almost a month since her error resulted in a 1000 loan to the bank. THIS time, I tell her she's not taking me seriously and that I would NOT accept any more waiting. I threatened to go above HER boss if things weren't resolved AND go to the next step with the ombudsman - she got things done fast enough.

Another time, someone set up a scam near my workplace that stole debit card numbers and PIN numbers. My mom notices it as we have joint account and 500 taken out. I tell her I'll look into it, and she says she'll go to the bank to look into it as well. When she goes to the bank, the bank manager tries to imply that *I* had stolen the money (I worked for these fuckers by the way), and then tried to pin the blame on my wife, then she called other workers into the office and threatened to call the cops. Now, I know my mom isn't exactly the politest person in the world, but to have your son, daughter-in-law, AND yourself threatened with police action? So, I called the ombudsman, ombudsman call the manager, and I received a call from her not 5 minutes after calling the ombudsman and she's falling over trying to sound friendly and sincere whilst assuring me things would be taken care of.

To the OP: I've worked at the bank and we've screwed up plenty of times (losses resulting in hundreds of thousands once), and when the customer gets upset, WE take it upon ourselves to fix it ASAP (apparently, not with my problem though). The customer certainly has a right to be upset because we fucked up. Where I worked, we didn't think of ourselves as individuals, but as a team and we succeeded or fucked up as a whole because poor service affected the company as a whole. The customer rep may not have been responsible, but he/she was likely embarrassed and the first thing done was to get it taken care of right away. To you complainers against the OP, I'd like to see how you react when your politely worded email is politely ignored as it's happened to me plenty of times.
 
Davidion said:
Requesting that someone not be a jackass is being imbecilic? That's the dumbest thing I've heard today. Way to take out your problems on the customer service person, because you know, THEY're the ones that are responsible for your problems.

You absolutely have the right to be a douchebag to the customer service agent. Just don't be surprised when you don't get shit done for you.
The point of my post was that the guy was not, in fact, a jackass and he absolutely had the right to demand his money. You seem to have missed it. Read again. ;)
As for that guy, i told him he was imbecilic because of this: "Also, your first email is atrocious as mentioned. Fuck you and everyone like you."

Soneet said:
Imbecile. Yeah, to me you are.
wow :lol i'm glad for you ;)

Firestorm said:
Right, because the customer service rep is the one who did that to you. Here's how you write the e-mail.

Hello,

I ordered a [item name] on [date] for 580,67 kor.. It was order number [order number]. I checked my credit card bill and it shows the charge twice. I only ordered it once. Please credit my account for the additional charge as soon as possible. I have to pay my bills!

Thank you,
[your name]


Will you look at that. Polite, information to quickly find your order, short.
My friend, as i already told you, there was nothing impolite about the guy's mail. This is his mail: "Fix it and do it quick 'cause i need my money to pay my bills" (or whatever other reason he needs his money... it's his money; you have a job right? You earn your money. Everyone would want his hard earned money back ASAP). That's impolite? How? In what kind of country (and with what kind of mentality where you raised?) do you live? You found THAT to be atrocious? Wow. Just wow. Anyway, let me quote you someone who was being impolite and a jackass:
Firestorm said:
Also, your first email is atrocious as mentioned. Fuck you and everyone like you.

rykomatsu said:
So tell me, which do you think a customer service rep would be more willing to deal with?
You've got to be kidding me. How about both? Are you telling me a customer service rep should do his job selectively? I hope you never get hired in such a position, ever. For the good of mankind :P

Burger said:
Jeez, it seems the problem is not that the store stole this guys money, but that he didn't put enough please and thank you's in his complaint email.
I completely agree. He didn't offend them, he didn't swear. He asked for his money. Money that shop stole from him, as you pointed.
I don't know what is wrong with the people that i've previously replied to, but the guy wasn't a douchebag.
 
I live and was raised in Canada.

Unless he used a support ticket, he gave little to no info about his order and asked them to fix it. I don't see how this would have ended any other way.

I've had no problems dealing with customer service related issues online aside from PayPal. All of them I dealt with politely and had them fix the error, or even change things for me that was my fault (like cancelled the order for $800 worth of computer parts at a point they didn't have to do anything). I stay polite, supply information to get the issue resolved, and thank them once finished.

Only places I have issues are in-stores where I start polite, then as scummy managers start making up lies to get out of following store policies, I calmly but firmly show them their policy to get them to do what they're supposed to.

And yes, I stand behind what I said. Fuck anyone who makes life hard for people working thankless jobs like customer service. Their jobs are horrible because of people like you.
 
@Firestorm: As Einstein pointed, everything is relative. As such, people's pov differ from one person to another.

This is what i believe (from what i read in your posts) to be your pov: the guy was a douchebag because he wrote an atrocious mail to customer service.

This is my pov: They basically stole his money. The guy used no offenseive language and only asked them to fix the problem ASAP because he needs his money.

In retrospect, you were more a jerk to him(swearing and all that), than he was to the customer service from that shop.

Firestorm said:
And yes, I stand behind what I said. Fuck anyone who makes life hard for people working thankless jobs like customer service. Their jobs are horrible because of people like you.
For the last time, how the hell did he make their jobs horrible by demanding his stolen money back? And did you take a moment to consider his life might be horrible without the money the shop took from him?

I really think you understood nothing. You should read Burger's post again.
 
And you seem to think everybody in a company works in unison to steal customers' money. My willingness to fight on your behalf comes from your attitude. The situation does change depending on the person's POV. Maybe the OP should look at it from the customer service rep's POV.

"Sweet, this guy is demanding me to do something for him without any information as to what happened! I'll get right on it."
 
Baker said:
1. The site is banned on gaf.

2. You had problems with them before but still used them.

I think it's pretty obvious what the next step should be.

Put his face in a bucket of milk and have 6 burger fiends fart into it with plastic tubes as he starts to drink?
 
Firestorm said:
And you seem to think everybody in a company works in unison to steal customers' money. My willingness to fight on your behalf comes from your attitude. The situation does change depending on the person's POV. Maybe the OP should look at it from the customer service rep's POV.

"Sweet, this guy is demanding me to do something for him without any information as to what happened! I'll get right on it."

That's not what happened. You should read the OP a bit more carefully since you react so strongly to it. He clearly states he gave his credit card info and order number. Dont you think he might have cut that part out of the mail before posting it on the internet?

He is a paying customer. They are customer services. One party gets to demand shit when he has been wronged. The other part gets to solve it within a reasonable time limit. Something they obviously failed miserably at.

Please never take a job in customer services. You'd suck at it, because if the OP would offend you, well then you'd probably outright snap when you had to deal with the real assholes. And if you actually think that a perceived poor attitude in a complaint is reason enough to withold the customers money for over a month then i really don't know what to say.
 
Firestorm said:
And you seem to think everybody in a company works in unison to steal customers' money. My willingness to fight on your behalf comes from your attitude. The situation does change depending on the person's POV. Maybe the OP should look at it from the customer service rep's POV.

"Sweet, this guy is demanding me to do something for him without any information as to what happened! I'll get right on it."
So because of my wording, it's okay for shopto for not having transfered back my money?
 
Just contacted my bank, hopefully they'll be able to take care of things.

Could a mod please confirm if it would be alright to edit the thread title? The site has been mentioned several times in the threads without the banhammer falling?
 
decon said:
So because of my wording, it's okay for shopto for not having transfered back my money?

No, but their screwup didn't entitle you to take that attitude with the customer service rep, who I imagine had nothing to do with billing. If a rep sympathizes with you, and they're good at their job, they'll go the extra mile to follow up on your behalf until the problem's resolved. Treat them like crap and they're liable to do no more than absolutely necessary, like pushing it off on the billing department to deal with whenever they get around to it. And maybe the nuances are different where you're from, but if you tell somebody 'fix it and do it quick' like that in the US, you sound like a lord talking down to some peon. That's not likely to make you many friends. :p

I hope you can get the problem straightened out quickly, but I also hope you understand where people are coming from when they tell you that it's in your best interest not to take your frustration out on a CS rep when you want help with a problem.
 
Firestorm said:
Well, I'm not the one seeking help :) If you come up with that attitude, I'd take my sweet ass time getting to what you want done. I think others who have done any type of customer service / retail work would agree.

Actually, based on what I've heard from people who work in customer service, the bitchier people usually get faster results. It's not like he personally attacked anyone. Having issues like that are frustrating, and frankly, if you're too passive, the customer service reps know they can take their sweet time.
 
OP, I missed the part where you gave proof of your purchase, expecting them to solely know which order you were talking about based on your email. You provided no evidence of the intentions of the initial purchase to confirm that this wasn't just a half assed scam as well. Basically they fucked up but you gave them no guidance to help confirm that giving you that money would be a legitimate refund or just some guy trying to hustle them. On top of that you basically told them to go fuck themselves for making the mysterious mistake that you (as far as they know) could be the just some fabrication of yours.


in short, suck it up and learn proper etiquette for dealing with these kind of issues. You'll notice copies of receipts or order information can do wonders
 
The attitude of some people in this thread is unbelievable. They stole his money, and then after several request didn't give it back. But according to some people it's Decons fault for not being polite enough, wtf! You guys are crazy
 
The first email is no where near as bad as people are making it out to be. Even if the op acted a complete fool they are still obligated to return the money they took.
 
decon said:
Hey.

I've just checked my netbank and it reads that you have withdrawn 580,67 kr. twice, meaning that I have payed for my order two times. There's not much else to say but: fix it, transfer 580,67 kr back, and do it quick. I have bills to pay and it's not the first time that this sort of thing happens with your site.
douche
 
The Hug Dog said:
The attitude of some people in this thread is unbelievable. They stole his money, and then after several request didn't give it back. But according to some people it's Decons fault for not being polite enough, wtf! You guys are crazy

Not crazy, just sick of watching guys like this take out their frustrations on people who don't deserve it. Do you think the customer service department was the one who screwed up the billing? No? So why is it perfectly OK for this guy to cop an attitude with a CS rep because of something that person didn't do and has no control over? Sure he's upset, and that's understandable. It was their error, and he deserves a refund. But with the attitude he took in that letter, I can see why customer service wouldn't be in a hurry to straighten things out for him.
 
I've never had a problem with this site, but their entire outfit comes across as very unprofessional. The website itself is effing atrocious, for a start. Unfortunately, their delivery service is unusually good...

I am glad they fixed that 'Star Buy's' shit in the weekly emails though. Holy shit that was pissing me off!
 
Tellaerin said:
Not crazy, just sick of watching guys like this take out their frustrations on people who don't deserve it. Do you think the customer service department was the one who screwed up the billing? No? So why is it perfectly OK for this guy to cop an attitude with a CS rep because of something that person didn't do and has no control over? Sure he's upset, and that's understandable. It was their error, and he deserves a refund. But with the attitude he took in that letter, I can see why customer service wouldn't be in a hurry to straighten things out for him.

I work in retail and deal with people every single day with complaints. Customer service are used to far, far worse than what Decon said. It is their job. On top of this the company they represent are massively in the wrong and not for the first time with this customer. They should be falling over themselves to correct the problem. If this had happened where I work I would have been all over it to correct the issue. It shocks me that people are bothered by the tone of the email and not the fact this company charged him twice and their consequent failings at returning his money. Very poor form
 
recently I have many many issues with the UK based play.

Couple of weeks ago they sent me a CD with the inside plastics (those holding the CD) broken. I then sent it back, they refunded my postage and sent a new one.
Just a few hours ago, I received the replacement: the EXACT SAME ONE I sent back to them...

Not the only big problem I had with them and their awful customer support. Just the latest...
 
@Happy Phantom
They got my e-mail which is the same as I use on the site. A quick search through their system and could find. Also, I did sent them my details, I just didn't post on gaf - hope I don't have to explain to you why.

@Tellaerin
Luckily this isn't in the US. I don't see the connection between making friends and emailing customer service.

Tellaerin said:
Not crazy, just sick of watching guys like this take out their frustrations on people who don't deserve it. Do you think the customer service department was the one who screwed up the billing? No? So why is it perfectly OK for this guy to cop an attitude with a CS rep because of something that person didn't do and has no control over? Sure he's upset, and that's understandable. It was their error, and he deserves a refund. But with the attitude he took in that letter, I can see why customer service wouldn't be in a hurry to straighten things out for him.
Who else should I write?

I never thought that GAF would be so sensitive! :lol I don't even swear at them, I'm just telling them to their job and do it quick. Straight to the point. If the person on the other end gets offered then that guy should probably get another job.

Anyways. After 3 unanswered mails I sent them this:
I've just contacted my bank and from now on they'll be handling the case. I've also posted a thread on neogaf.com http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18525527#post18525527 warning people about your bad service.

Well guess what? 2 hours later I receive an answer. Why on earth shouldn't I, as a paying customer, not be pissed?
 
You're honestly surprised that your petulant little tantrum is being looked down upon by GAF?

To be completely fair you're a fool for thinking GAF would flock to your side.

Yes, they messed up, no you didn't have to behave like an asshole. 2 wrongs etc...


TLDR - Grow up.
 
McBradders said:
You're honestly surprised that your petulant little tantrum is being looked down upon by GAF?

To be completely fair you're a fool for thinking GAF would flock to your side.

Yes, they messed up, no you didn't have to behave like an asshole. 2 wrongs etc...


TLDR - Grow up.
I will dad. Still it worked, they answered and a lot of people in this thread can see where I'm coming from.

Anyway, this thread wasn't made to discus my mail, just warning you guys about crappy service.
 
I think the original email was fine. There isn't any name calling and it is not some lengthy speech. It's more of a memo than anything else.

Fix it, get it done, I have shit to do with that money. I prefer that to "legal action!" or "I'll tell my bank" on the first try. You save those for later.

It's happened before, and there is no reason for them to have twice as much money as they should.
 
Tellaerin said:
... if you tell somebody 'fix it and do it quick' like that in the US, you sound like a lord talking down to some peon. ...

It is in UK, maybe the lord thing is accurate. ;)

Jokes apart, I live in Brazil and this shop is my main source of games. I have imported at least a dozen games and never had any problem. Of course, I use paypal, so if I was in the same situation I'd file a complain and requested my money back on them.
 
McBradders said:
You're honestly surprised that your petulant little tantrum is being looked down upon by GAF?

To be completely fair you're a fool for thinking GAF would flock to your side.

Yes, they messed up, no you didn't have to behave like an asshole. 2 wrongs etc...


TLDR - Grow up.


Wow, really? They charged him twice for an item. So he should what, praise them for fucking up and beg them to possibly return his money? No, they fucked up, you return the money. He shouldn't have to suck their dicks just to get them to fix their mistake.
 
rainking187 said:
Wow, really? They charged him twice for an item. So he should what, praise them for fucking up and beg them to possibly return his money? No, they fucked up, you return the money. He shouldn't have to suck their dicks just to get them to fix their mistake.

And there are many ways of handling such matters with tact and politeness, as others have already pointed out several times over within this thread.

Tipping the proverbial magazine rack over isn't helpful at all and should certainly be a last resort.
 
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