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[Gamer79]

New rumors from some insiders and reported by some reliable youtubers I do not wish to advertise here about the Price of Series S.

Rumors suggesting the base model could sell for a super aggressive price at $399 and the Lockhart model for a crazy $200.

The lockhart is said to have a more powerful gpu than the One X but all digital and not on the level of a Series S.

Microsoft has the pockets to do something crazy like this if they choose too. If a person can play the new Halo for $200 with a lower resolution, holy shit that's impossible to beat. Stay tuned!

Here is one of the fellows I am talking about, and respect him.

 

[sol_bad]

They can already play the new Halo on One X.

 

[DragoonWalker]

No no no please don't be real. Next gen games already look like small leap as it is.

Ah fuck it's gonna be real isn't it. It's gonna sell gangbusters isn't it.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Microsoft, the company, have a lot of money. How much of that money does the Xbox department see?

 

[Birdo]

I imagine the One S and X are going to be discontinued very quickly if Series S is that cheap.

 

[Hobbygaming]

That's a good price if true but all digital would be a hard pass. I'd rather get the Series X if the games are there

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[Tenka Musou]

MS holding the entire generation back with their shitty 4TF machine.

I'm conflicted in wanting Xbox to fail, on one hand theyre gotta be a competitor to light a fire under Sony's ass, on the other hand I hate to see multiplatform devs being forced to design their games around such a weak hardware

 

[Nikana]

So... no source or evidence?

Sounds legit.

 

[Handy Fake]

I think at this point we should all just give up and buy that Game Gear Mini.

 

[ManaByte]

MS holding the entire generation back with their shitty 4TF machine.

I'm conflicted in wanting Xbox to fail, on one hand theyre gotta be a competitor to light a fire under Sony's ass, on the other hand I hate to see multiplatform devs being forced to design their games around such a weak hardware

 

[Quezacolt]

If they did that they would lose money in a way they never did before.

Sure, gamepass and Live could compensate for the loss, but still.

And here's the thing, while most of the hardcore crowd is excited to see what MS can do, i don't see any of the more casual players talking about it at all.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

$400/$200 seems unbelievable.

But hey.... MS does make about $30 billion profit per year!

If they subsidize an extra $100 per unit above and beyond a $500/$300 price:

1 million sales = $100 million extra costs
10 million sales = $1 billion extra costs
50 million sales = $5 billion extra costs
100 million sales = $10 billion extra costs

Spread those costs over 6-7 years of a generation, and it's pennies per share annualy.

 

[Moogle11]

They can already play the new Halo on One X.

This. MS has no incentive to sell a less powerful next gen console that cheap. The cheap crowd can pick up an Xbox One S or X. No need for them to lose that kind of money. They're making it clear they just want people in their ecosystem buying games, DLC, Live and Gamepass subscriptions. Why take a likley big loss on next gen consoles given that focus? They aren't going to out sell Sony as too many markets globally just don't give a shit about Xbox.

 

[Captain Hero]

we know man .. but what can we do

 

[eastwood333]

Kind of makes sense with Lockhart. MS will eat 100 bucks to gain a significant amount of marketshare, have more in their ecosystem,push for digital, and make the money back over time through game sells,live, gamepass etc...

I don't think it's out of the question.

 

[Elder Legend]

MS holding the entire generation back with their shitty 4TF machine.

I'm conflicted in wanting Xbox to fail, on one hand theyre gotta be a competitor to light a fire under Sony's ass, on the other hand I hate to see multiplatform devs being forced to design their games around such a weak hardware

The only difference between Series S and Series X are the teraflops. It's the same exact architecture, same exact CPU and same exact GPU with just lower TFs. oh and the SSD. The only difference there will be is the resolution honestly but it will be an easily 1080p 60 FPS ONLY machine. Ur not losing anything. You will be paying $100 or $200 dollars less for lack of 8 TFs

 

[JLB]

mmm, is there something new? Links, Sources that kind of stuff?

 

[ManaByte]

$400/$200 seems unbelievable.

But hey.... MS does make about $30 billion profit per year!

If they subsidize an extra $100 per unit above and beyond a $500/$300 price:

1 million sales = $100 million extra costs
10 million sales = $1 billion extra costs
50 million sales = $5 billion extra costs
100 million sales = $10 billion extra costs

Spread those costs over 6-7 years of a generation, and it's pennies per share annualy.

GamePass to them is more important than game attach rates were in the previous gen. They can justify a $399 Series X on the back of subscriptions.

 

[Tenka Musou]

The only difference between Series S and Series X are the teraflops. It's the same exact architecture, same exact CPU and same exact GPU with just lower TFs. The only difference there will be is the resolution honestly but it will be an easily 1080p 60 FPS ONLY machine. Ur not losing anything.

No, RAM too according to rumors.

 

[Elder Legend]

No, RAM too according to rumors.

how much less RAM? probably not much.

 

[eastwood333]

This. MS has no incentive to sell a less powerful next gen console that cheap. The cheap crowd can pick up an Xbox One S or X. No need for them to lose that kind of money. They're making it clear they just want people in their ecosystem buying games, DLC, Live and Gamepass subscriptions. Why take a likley big loss on next gen consoles given that focus? They aren't going to out sell Sony as too many markets globally just don't give a shit about Xbox.

MS is thinking about the future though and getting as many as possible to migrate to the next gen console. And you can't play the big titles like GTA 6, Hellblade2, Playgrounds new Fabe, The Medium etc.. on XB1X.

 

[TTOOLL]

lol wtf, people really have the face to say things like "MS has the pockets to do something crazy like this."

Yes, it's crazy and precisely because MS doesn't go around burning money that they have the pockets in the first place. Wake up, that's not how business work for a trillion dollar company or for any successful business.

 

[zeroFiveNine]

199 one s
299 one x
399 series s
499 series x

this seems like the most likely scenario to me

also explains the 200 dollar "rumors"

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Xbox Series X for 200, PS5 for 800.

Fantastic rumors xD

 

[Deleted member 471617]

While it would be better for me if Xbox Series X was $400, I'll stick with my prediction of Series X at $500 and Series S at $300.

 

[Moogle11]

199 one s
299 one x
399 series s
499 series x

this seems like the most likely scenario to me

That I can agree with. That's a good way to both get your core to move on to next gen, and maximize the amount of people on your platform spending money on games, DLC and subscriptions to Live and Gamepass.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

No, RAM too according to rumors.

Ram requirements drop as you lower in resolution as 4k vram consumption is concid... you know what, no. Keep going all.

 

[ManaByte]

199 one s
299 one x
399 series s
499 series x

this seems like the most likely scenario to me and also explains the 200 dollar rumor.

The Ones are being removed from the channel, just like they removed the OG Xbox One when the One S came out.

 

[Jtibh]

What you think of this?

Is 200 just a wet dream?
I know you know something

 

[eastwood333]

Xbox Series X for 200, PS5 for 800.

Fantastic rumors xD

What? Nobody is saying that. Lockhart is rumored to be 200. PS5 is rumored to be 800? What? XSX/PS5 are rumored to be 400-500

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Microsoft doesn't care about selling hardware, though.

Why sell a cheaper XsX at a loss when you can sell a X1X or even a X1S?

 

[INC]

Was hoping that their next reveal is pure gameplay for over an hour

 

[eastwood333]

199 one s
299 one x
399 series s
499 series x

this seems like the most likely scenario to me

also explains the 200 dollar "rumors"

XBox One S/XB1X is going to get phased out to make room for XSX and Lockhart

 

[ManaByte]

Microsoft doesn't care about selling hardware, though.

Why sell a cheaper XsX at a loss when you can sell a X1X or even a X1S?

Because they won't be seeing X1X and X1S anymore.

 

[Jtibh]

At 200 with gamepass i would never buy an xsx.
Ps5 plus lockhart is a good combo.
200 bucks pfff i make more in a half a day sitting on my ass

 

[-Arcadia-]

New rumors from some insiders and reported by some reliable youtubers I do not wish to advertise here about the Price of Series S.

Rumors suggesting the base model could sell for a super aggressive price at $399 and the Lockhart model for a crazy $200.

The lockhart is said to have a more powerful gpu than the One X but all digital and not on the level of a Series S.

Microsoft has the pockets to do something crazy like this if they choose too. If a person can play the new Halo for $200 with a lower resolution, holy shit that's impossible to beat. Stay tuned!

You should source. When all we have is the word of some guy, and the rumors are this extraordinary...

 

[JOEVIAL]

I imagine the One S and X are going to be discontinued very quickly if Series S is that cheap.

It's interesting Microsoft is clearencing Xbox Ones out. Even the latest Cyberpunk One X that was just released was $100 off at $299 for most all retailers.

I personally think this points to some aggressive pricing for the new console(s)

 

[oldergamer]

No no no please don't be real. Next gen games already look like small leap as it is.

Ah fuck it's gonna be real isn't it. It's gonna sell gangbusters isn't it.

Man you need to drop that argument. supporting low end is not going to prevent high end from looking good. It never has on the PC if the developer chose to take advantage of the high end hardware.

 

[lastmessiah]

MS holding the entire generation back with their shitty 4TF machine.

I'm conflicted in wanting Xbox to fail, on one hand theyre gotta be a competitor to light a fire under Sony's ass, on the other hand I hate to see multiplatform devs being forced to design their games around such a weak hardware

That's not how it works. All games run on a few engines nowadays, and the difference in power is seen in resolution and framerate.

 

[Tenka Musou]

Ram requirements drop as you lower in resolution as 4k vram consumption is concid... you know what, no. Keep going all.

What about games that are pushing high quality assets/fidelity at 1080/1440P instead of 4K on PS5/XBseX? Just dropping the resolution won't be enough.

You all assume next gen games will all run at Native 4k, and devs will just make them 1080P for Lockhart. But some next gen games won't go for that

 

[Jtibh]

You should source. When all we have is the word of some guy, and the rumors are this extraordinary...

Dealer is not some guy.
He is the right hand of phil . At night of course

 

[Shrap]

New rumors from some insiders and reported by some reliable youtubers I do not wish to advertise here about the Price of Series S.

Can we lock this thread please?

 

[leo-j]

Series S digital only 1080p stream digital machine for the casuals at $199

Series X hardcore for the core gamers
At $399

while ps5 launches at $499.

I totally expect it NGL. Microsoft is already said to not care to take a big loss per console. They are already making close to nothing on XCLOUD games. But eventually the 10 million subs could turn to 20 million then 30, and the brand all of a sudden becomes the biggest game brand for casuals w streaming.

 

[Lionel Richie]

199 one s
299 one x
399 series s
499 series x

this seems like the most likely scenario to me

also explains the 200 dollar "rumors"

Someone got paid to think of this naming convention.

 

[oldergamer]

It's interesting Microsoft is clearencing Xbox Ones out. Even the latest Cyberpunk One X that was just released was $100 off at $299 for most all retailers.

I personally think this points to some aggressive pricing for the new console(s)

That's not recent, they have been doing this since late last year.

 

[TLZ]

The lockhart is said to have a more powerful gpu than the One X but all digital and not on the level of a Series S.

I'm confused.

I thought the lockhart is the Series S?

And what do you mean by base model Series X? How many Series X's are there? Are you telling me they're flooding the market with many models and confusing people?

 

[SamFo]

Everyone saying that Lockhart won’t be a leap are obviously forgetting that it will include an SSD - which Sonygaf has lead me to believe is the most important factor in next gen.

 

[DarthFeanor]

Very unlikely.
$549-499 and $299-249 is more likely.

 

[TLZ]

At 200 with gamepass i would never buy an xsx.
Ps5 plus lockhart is a good combo.
200 bucks pfff i make more in a half a day sitting on my ass

Wha? How?

Teach me o wise one.